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why no marriage in heaven? - 11/12/2008 10:22:25 PM
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Zack_NorcalRiders
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So ive done some research and there will be no marriage in heaven? i feel kinda lonely about this matter because i know we will be with god but . Theres nothin like staying in on a rainy day and watching a couple movies with your loved one . Just being there in each others prsescense and sharing your emotions to me is as close as you can get to heaven on earth . So can somebody relate to what im saying?
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RE: why no marriage in heaven? - 11/12/2008 10:31:22 PM
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ugh yeah i know i spelled "prescense " wrong lol i just did it again
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RE: why no marriage in heaven? - 11/12/2008 11:21:56 PM
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presence, brother, it's spelled 'presence', ha! Why no marriage? Because when the real, the eternal is here, who needs the shadow? Marriage, here on earth, is symbolic of the eternal ecstatic union of the Bridegroom and His Bride (Jesus and His church).
But if you want to be in the company of, say, 'Ellen', who was your wife when you were still on earth, well, I'm sure you will be able to find her. Though what I suspect is, the joy that you had when you had 'Ellen' by your side, here on earth, will be outshone by the joy you will have when you are by your Lord's side, there in heaven...
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RE: why no marriage in heaven? - 11/12/2008 11:22:44 PM
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there is a spell checker you can check in your my profile page, it will correct miss-pelled words.
and as to marriage in heaven......... why would I care? I sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo completely trust GOD, .... trust that He knows what He is doing, and that He will sooo totally take care of me.
if I think there is no marriage in heaven and then find out there is..... yay (I wasn't married here on Earth), and if I think I will be married in heaven and find out I misunderstood something.... yay, God has something even better and more fulfilling.
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RE: why no marriage in heaven? - 11/12/2008 11:58:33 PM
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marriage on earth is a pale imitation of what we all will experience up in heaven.
Why would we crave something else when we will be totally fufiled?
Rejoice!
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RE: why no marriage in heaven? - 11/13/2008 12:19:42 AM
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We will be married in Heaven. We are the bride of Christ and He is the bridegroom.
Read the Prophet Hosea 2:14-20. " And I will betroth you to Me forever; Yes I will betroth you to Me in righteousness and in justice, In lovingkindness and in compassion, And I will betroth you to Me in faithfulness. Then you will know the Lord." Hosea 2:19-20
" And it will come about in that day, declares the Lord, that you will call me Ishi and will no longer call me baal. ( my Master) says Hosea 2:16
The word Ishi means " my Husband"
"The Lord appeared to him from afar, saying, I have loved you with an everlasting love; Therefore I have drawn you with lovingkindness" Jer 31:3
The best marriages on earth greatly pale to the marriage that awaits us in Heaven.
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RE: why no marriage in heaven? - 11/13/2008 6:53:26 AM
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There is another thread on this subject where it was put forward that there may be no NEW marriages in heaven but it really does not say preexisting marriages will be dissolved.
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RE: why no marriage in heaven? - 11/13/2008 12:18:43 PM
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So ive done some research and there will be no marriage in heaven? i feel kinda lonely about this matter because i know we will be with god but . Theres nothin like staying in on a rainy day and watching a couple movies with your loved one . Just being there in each others prsescense and sharing your emotions to me is as close as you can get to heaven on earth . So can somebody relate to what im saying?
I think your concern comes form looking at Heaven and being in the presence of Gof through the lense of earthly pleasures and comforts.
Revelations states that;
(Rev 21:10) And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God,
(Rev 21:11) Having the glory of God: and her light was like unto a stone most precious, even like a jasper stone, clear as crystal;
(Rev 21:12) And had a wall great and high, and had twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels, and names written thereon, which are the names of the twelve tribes of the children of Israel:
(Rev 21:13) On the east three gates; on the north three gates; on the south three gates; and on the west three gates.
(Rev 21:14) And the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and in them the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.
(Rev 21:15) And he that talked with me had a golden reed to measure the city, and the gates thereof, and the wall thereof.
(Rev 21:16) And the city lieth foursquare, and the length is as large as the breadth: and he measured the city with the reed, twelve thousand furlongs. The length and the breadth and the height of it are equal.
(Rev 21:17) And he measured the wall thereof, an hundred and forty and four cubits, according to the measure of a man, that is, of the angel.
(Rev 21:18) And the building of the wall of it was of jasper: and the city was pure gold, like unto clear glass.
(Rev 21:19) And the foundations of the wall of the city were garnished with all manner of precious stones. The first foundation was jasper; the second, sapphire; the third, a chalcedony; the fourth, an emerald;
(Rev 21:20) The fifth, sardonyx; the sixth, sardius; the seventh, chrysolite; the eighth, beryl; the ninth, a topaz; the tenth, a chrysoprasus; the eleventh, a jacinth; the twelfth, an amethyst.
(Rev 21:21) And the twelve gates were twelve pearls; every several gate was of one pearl: and the street of the city was pure gold, as it were transparent glass.
(Rev 21:22) And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it.
(Rev 21:23) And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.
So as much as I love and depend on my wife of over 45 years; I do not think I nor she will miss the relationship when we are in the Glory of God.
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RE: why no marriage in heaven? - 11/23/2008 3:51:41 PM
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[image][/image]Here is all of the Scripture on the subject, as being so important, that it is mentioned in the gospels three times!
In Matthew, Mark, and Luke, we have an account of a discussion Jesus had with a group of Sadducees, who scripture explains, did not believe in a resurrection of the dead (Matt 22:23, Mark 12:18, Luke 20:27). They pose a question to Jesus about a widow who marries 7 brothers in sequence as each dies. The Sadducees presume that they have posed an impossible question to Jesus, because they assume that after any alleged resurrection, the woman would be guilty of bigamy by having seven husbands. Jesus answers as follows (emphasis is mine):
Mat 22:28 (KJV) Therefore in the resurrection whose wife shall she be of the seven? for they all had her.
Mat 22:29 Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God.
Mat 22:30 For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.
Mat 22:31 But as touching the resurrection of the dead, have ye not read that which was spoken unto you by God, saying,
Mat 22:32 I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? God is not the God of the dead, but of the living.
Mark 12:23 (KJV) In the resurrection therefore, when they shall rise, whose wife shall she be of them? for the seven had her to wife.
Mark 12:24 And Jesus answering said unto them, Do ye not therefore err, because ye know not the scriptures, neither the power of God?
Mark 12:25 For when they shall rise from the dead, they neither marry, nor are given in marriage; but are as the angels which are in heaven.
Mark 12:26 And as touching the dead, that they rise: have ye not read in the book of Moses, how in the bush God spake unto him, saying, I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob?
Mark 12:27 He is not the God of the dead, but the God of the living: ye therefore do greatly err.
Luke 20:34 (KJV) And Jesus answering said unto them, The children of this world marry, and are given in marriage:
Luke 20:35 But they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage:
Luke 20:36 Neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels; and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection.
Luke 20:37 Now that the dead are raised, even Moses showed at the bush, when he calleth the Lord the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob.
Luke 20:38 For he is not a God of the dead, but of the living: for all live unto him.
Note that the topic at hand deals with the Sadducees denial of a resurrection (the power of God to raise the dead) and their lack of knowledge of scripture on the matter.
In each of the above passages, to prove the resurrection, God is quoted when he spoke to Moses (Exodus 3:6) and said "I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob" and then the comment is made that "God is not the God of the dead, but of the living."[image][/image]
With marriage, we honor God, and marriage is supposed to produce in us godly character. We are to come to the full knowledge of God, to the fullness and stature of Christ.
King James Bible (Eph. 4:13)
Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ: so the goal of marriage is to perfect us for God's kingdom. Marriage is God's way of purging the impurities from us, to make us more useful to the service of His kingdom. Marriage is symbolic of two people becoming one, so there is the spiritual element here, not just a fleshly one. Marriage represents people becoming one in Christ. When we die, there will no longer be the division of spirit and flesh, as we will be reunited with Christ and one in Spirit. Marriage is the mold/union of the flesh, and when we break the mold of the flesh and are resurrected as one in the Spirit, then we are perfected - we won't be without those who love Christ! We will be one in Spirit with them, because they love Christ too. This is why your desire should be to pray for a partner who loves God as much as you, as God will use the both of you to bring you closer to Him.
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RE: why no marriage in heaven? - 11/23/2008 3:59:29 PM
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There is no marriage in Heaven to spare us any mother-in-law problems.
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RE: why no marriage in heaven? - 11/23/2008 8:00:40 PM
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"For when the dead rise to life, they will be like the angels in Heaven and will not marry". Matthew 22:30.
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RE: why no marriage in heaven? - 11/24/2008 6:34:59 AM
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Perhaps you're right AbbyGrace. I may have mis-interpreted the Bible verse.
I'm still concerned though about mothers-in-law arguing with their families in Heaven. Can you imagine what that would be like?
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RE: why no marriage in heaven? - 11/24/2008 7:17:09 AM
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"For when the dead rise to life, they will be like the angels in Heaven and will not marry". Matthew 22:30.
Which version is this?
Mat 22:30 "For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven. (NASB)
Mat 22:30 For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven. (ESV)
These and the other versions I looked up all have this phrase "nor are given in marriage." In the day, a man married a woman and she was given in marriage to him. There is nothing to say in this passage that existing marriages cease. It can be taken to say that there will be no new marriages. But as Abby has said, you should look at what was being said and take that at face value - i.e. there is a resurrection after death; and not try to extrapolate other things from the passage that were not being addressed.
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RE: why no marriage in heaven? - 11/24/2008 7:41:44 AM
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It's not going to matter to me one way or another whether there will or will not be marriages in Heaven.
I hardly think Heaven would be Heaven if we spent all or part of our time during Eternity pining away for something we had or didn't have here on earth.
I truly believe that whatever awaits us in Heaven will be more than more than enough and more than we could ever have hoped for or imagined while here on earth. And to that end, I simply don't think about it one way or another.
I trust Our Father, and that's really enough for me.
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Marriage is God's way of purging the impurities from us, to make us more useful to the service of His kingdom. God has many ways of purging impurities from us. There are many single people who are or were (for those who are no longer living) quite very useful to the service of His Kingdom.
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This is why your desire should be to pray for a partner who loves God as much as you, as God will use the both of you to bring you closer to Him. Are you saying that every single person should pray for a partner, or are you saying that every single person who does pray for a partner should do so in the manner described? I'm sincerely asking, because they're two entirely different questions.
For instance, some people do not pray for a partner at all. Some simply trust our Lord with their entire lives; and if a partner is going to be part of that, then great; if not, then also great. Other people don't pray for a partner because it just simply isn't something they want, need nor desire.
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RE: why no marriage in heaven? - 11/24/2008 12:02:01 PM
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I truly believe that whatever awaits us in Heaven will be more than more than enough and more than we could ever have hoped for or imagined while here on earth. Agreed.
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RE: why no marriage in heaven? - 11/24/2008 3:46:57 PM
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Hi DaveW,
My quote is from the Good News Bible by the American Bible Society.
Anyway, I was not being serious - it was just a joke that there's no marriages in Heaven because of mothers-in-law. I guess British humour doesn't travel well. My apologies.
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RE: why no marriage in heaven? - 11/24/2008 8:09:06 PM
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Oh don't even bring that thought into the bliss of heaven, here on earth is bad enough. I think mother in-laws are maybe God's way of balancing our joy with the reality of the hardness of this life LOL
Only kidding second mum, honest lol
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RE: why no marriage in heaven? - 11/25/2008 2:13:55 AM
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Men marry, women are given in marriage. I see no reason to derive from that passage that current marriages will somehow be dissolved. Why would the things that have the capacity to give us the greatest happiness here on earth need to end?
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RE: why no marriage in heaven? - 11/25/2008 6:28:25 AM
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My quote is from the Good News Bible by the American Bible Society. Thanks. Good version for reading but not for serious study.quote:
Anyway, I was not being serious - it was just a joke that there's no marriages in Heaven because of mothers-in-law. I guess British humour doesn't travel well. My apologies. Actually, I got the humor with the MIL comments...
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RE: why no marriage in heaven? - 11/26/2008 1:11:50 AM
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There is another thread on this subject where it was put forward that there may be no NEW marriages in heaven but it really does not say preexisting marriages will be dissolved.
That is what I believe. God instituted family. He loves family and He is all about family! I believe we will all be situated in Heaven in families from the last generation down to Adam and Eve. (I am imagining a honeycomb pattern of dwellings, where many abut one another.)
It will be phenomenal to see one's wonderful line of descent within the Body of Christ. Some will be loners, being the only believer there in one;s own immediate family or in a generation or two, but there will always be a familial connection.
I believe there will be no new marriages, but existing ones will exist. It is family.
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RE: why no marriage in heaven? - 11/28/2008 2:16:53 PM
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Yes but love is never so strong as when you love each other before you think about feeding the desire of the flesh. There is also the fact that love fades somewhat once love has been made.
In anycase, as the flesh will not inherit the kingdom to come we can only look forward to a true, pure love that does not fade as the flesh does. You could say if you truely loved someone the last thing you would want tis to limit them in a relationship with you. Who can say he loves a bird and then cage it so it can not be free?
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But honestly, does Scripture say, there will be no marriage? I havent really thought about it.
