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RE: Mental Health Encouragement. - 6/18/2008 7:53:31 PM   
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I'm thankful to get it, but now I'm dealing with the feelings of guilt of dumping my other therapist.


Roberta,

Firstly, I feel I need to say to you that it's false guilt (taking responsibility for something that isn't your responsibility).

Secondly, you were her client, not her buddy. Her goal was for you to get well, and, since changing therapists and seeing someone now when you need to see someone will help you achieve that goal, she will be pleased for you.

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RE: Mental Health Encouragement. - 6/18/2008 8:10:03 PM   
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Status: offline 		Manda- I still think you eavesdrop around my house.
The pastor that I mentioned in my earlier post told me almost the same thing word for word as you just did.

You're right, I shouldve labeled it as false guilt. But I'm coming around, at least now I can say that I know that guilt doesn't belong there.

I reminded myself of something that happened about 22 years ago when I was pg with #2. I was very early in my pregnancy and started spotting. I called my OB/GYN, and found out that he had just left for a month long cruise. I was so upset that I slammed down the phone and called a friend who was also pg. She got me in to see her OB/GYN. I liked him so much that I saw him half way into my pregnancy with #4!
I never had any intentions of leaving my first dr. But he wasn't available and I needed to save my baby. It never occurred to me to feel one twinge of guilt over the issue. This scenario really isn't any different.

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RE: Mental Health Encouragement. - 6/18/2008 8:17:54 PM   
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ORIGINAL: DenimDiva
Manda- I still think you eavesdrop around my house.




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The pastor that I mentioned in my earlier post told me almost the same thing word for word as you just did.


He must have been to one of my training sessions.

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I reminded myself of something that happened about 22 years ago when I was pg with #2. I was very early in my pregnancy and started spotting. I called my OB/GYN, and found out that he had just left for a month long cruise. I was so upset that I slammed down the phone and called a friend who was also pg. She got me in to see her OB/GYN. I liked him so much that I saw him half way into my pregnancy with #4!
I never had any intentions of leaving my first dr. But he wasn't available and I needed to save my baby. It never occurred to me to feel one twinge of guilt over the issue. This scenario really isn't any different.


That's a very good illustration - hopefully remembering that event will help alter your perception on this current situation!

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RE: Mental Health Encouragement. - 6/18/2008 8:20:17 PM   
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RE: Mental Health Encouragement. - 6/18/2008 8:21:09 PM   
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WEIRDO!!

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RE: Mental Health Encouragement. - 6/18/2008 8:23:13 PM   
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Status: offline 		Nope- Cynthia Spell-Humbert did it for me.

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RE: Mental Health Encouragement. - 6/18/2008 9:06:41 PM   
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RE: Mental Health Encouragement. - 6/18/2008 11:42:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		I just learned of a site where you can rate your doctor and find out how others have rated him/her. http://ratemds.com/social/?q=node/11

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RE: Mental Health Encouragement. - 6/19/2008 12:12:27 AM   
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Status: offline 		hmm.... I may have to look at it again later. It didn't have any doctors listed in my area.

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RE: Mental Health Encouragement. - 6/19/2008 12:27:21 AM   
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Status: offline 		My family doctor and my psychiatrist got top ratings--which didn't surprise me. It was cool to read the comments. And Stovie, they have the UK on there too.

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RE: Mental Health Encouragement. - 6/19/2008 6:17:09 PM   
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ORIGINAL: magdaleine
And Stovie, they have the UK on there too.
I couldn't find anyone that I'd seen, but then there only seemed to be a couple of hits for each entry so it doesn't suprise me they weren't there...

They are brilliant (IMO) but I think they'd hate to be rated in such a way (at least some would) so I'm not adding 'em.

Roberta, I agree with Manda. You shouldn't feel guilty about what you've done. Actually, I've just done something similar with someone involved in my health care. I'm waiting to hear what the outcome will be, but I'm confident that I've made the right decision for me.

It's very hard to be selfish about our own care and needs, but sometimes we have to be. If it was your best friend or your twin sister who's therapist went off sick, what would you be telling her to do?

When you see your new therapist, please be sure to tell her what you've done and why ~ not to badmouth your last therapist but so your new one understands better what is going on in your life.

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RE: Mental Health Encouragement. - 6/19/2008 9:14:02 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'm trying really hard not to be consumed with false guilt. (do you like that Manda? )

There have been a few times today where I've felt it creeping in. I just remind myself of pregnancy #2 and what I did there.

I got a really good night's sleep last night. I went to bed somewhere around 11 pm. I sleep in the living room, so it's not uncommon for me to deal with people watching TV, walking through, etc. It's usually not a problem and seldom even stops me from snoring. I guess about 12:30 or 1 my BIL and a friend came in to play some video games. I've been told that I heard them because I got up, told them they had until I got back from the bathroom to get out. They apparently weren't fast enough and they were still there and I apparently sat on the couch and glared at them until they got out of the room. All I remember is going to the bathroom. I wondered why half the video games were on the floor when I got up this morning. My sister says that I said it loud enough to wake her up and authoritative enough to make two grown men want to get out so badly they left half their stuff behind. I know I needed my sleep because I didn't get any sleep at all the night before.


I almost apologized for it when I heard about it, but then I stopped myself. I work hard at keeping kids quiet in the mornings, keeping myself quiet at night. I deserve a good night's sleep!

They asked if I was going to do my usual apology. I said no. My BIL has been in a bad mood most of the day, but he says that has nothing to do with me, it has to do with his job. He says that he's actually kind of glad that I insisted on them respecting my privacy and rights.

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RE: Mental Health Encouragement. - 6/19/2008 10:02:00 PM   
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My sister says that I said it loud enough to wake her up and authoritative enough to make two grown men want to get out so badly they left half their stuff behind.

LOL! I love it! Good for you!

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RE: Mental Health Encouragement. - 6/19/2008 10:13:28 PM   
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Status: offline 		LOL. That musta made for quite a sight, Roberta!
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RE: Mental Health Encouragement. - 6/20/2008 1:04:47 AM   
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Status: offline 		It must've been! I'd loved to have seen it! I was so out of it from not getting any sleep the night before that I don't remember it.

I go see my pdoc tomorrow. Last time we discussed the possibility of hospitalization if the meds weren't working and they haven't been. Needless to say, I'm very worried about tomorrow's visit.

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RE: Mental Health Encouragement. - 6/20/2008 5:48:34 PM   
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Status: offline 		There's nothing wrong with discussing it ~ just make sure you explain why you don't want to do it. My psychiatrist has in the past mentioned it to me but after I explained why I didn't think it would be good for me, he accepted it. He didn't even mention it last year when I was really ill (though I knew he was thinking it).

I do feel that hospital can have it's benefits for some though. As always, we must be assessed on our individual needs and health at any given time.

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RE: Mental Health Encouragement. - 6/20/2008 6:58:52 PM   
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Status: offline 		We decided to go with a change of meds. She took me off the med that was most likely causing the swelling of my tongue.

We discussed the fact that all but one of my meds looked so similar, so she looked at different generics and was able to get me different colors.

Her BP machine was broken, so I have no idea what that is, my weight went up two pounds. The person who was supposed to do my blood work didn't show up, so I'm going to the clinic to get it done hopefully within the next two weeks. I'm waiting on a return phone call.

She wants me to call her office every Monday and Friday morning and leave her a message about how I'm feeling. She's trying to determine how much cycling I'm doing and how often.

She still talked hospitalization. However, she said that given the situation, she felt that it would be better to wait until I'm on the new med for a few weeks.

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RE: Mental Health Encouragement. - 6/20/2008 7:27:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		Roberta, have you ever kept a mood diary ~ don't mean something written, just something like at this site. I know that I've found it useful to monitor my mood when it's not been good because my mind doesn't work well and when I see my doctors it's much easier to look at something as it helps my recall.

It may be worth you making a note of your TOM as well as that can affect mood and your doc will be able to take that into account. My mood diary was really useful for me when I was being assessed because it very quickly ruled out PMS!

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RE: Mental Health Encouragement. - 6/20/2008 7:55:27 PM   
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ORIGINAL: agapetos

Roberta, have you ever kept a mood diary ~ don't mean something written, just something like at this site. I know that I've found it useful to monitor my mood when it's not been good because my mind doesn't work well and when I see my doctors it's much easier to look at something as it helps my recall.

It may be worth you making a note of your TOM as well as that can affect mood and your doc will be able to take that into account. My mood diary was really useful for me when I was being assessed because it very quickly ruled out PMS!


I've heard of those, but never used one. It might be worth checking into. Thanks!

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RE: Mental Health Encouragement. - 6/20/2008 8:13:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		That's the one I used in the beginning. Later on I modified it to suit my needs. I've seen my doc before with my nurse when things have been really bad and my doc has asked me how I've been. I've replied 'ok'. Not helpful . Useful also for noting what meds I'm meant to be taking and if I've missed any.

Because my mood is more stable now I'm not worried about doing one, but I do keep a note of things that are going on in my life (events, medical test results, problems with anything, stresses etc) just as a record and I'd go back to the mood diary if my mood deteriorated in any way.

My claim for a disability allowance is up for renewal (in September). They wrote me a while back and asked me to reapply (should I still wish to get it), so I did. Not quite sure what I said (or if they asked for any additional info from my nurse/docs etc) but I don't have to reapply for 5 years. I filled most of the form in myself, but had someone check it and make a few comments (mostly because I hadn't fully understood the question). I told him how long it was for and he was shocked. He said (and helping people fill forms in is his living) that most people were getting 2-3 years and very few 5. The benefits company did goof on my letter and he phoned them on my behalf to find out what it should have said and blasted them. The guy on the other end of the phone went on to blast the department who sent the letter out because it was WRONG.

I haven't heard about my new nurse yet, though it's still within the time set by the lady I wrote to. Time just seems to be dragging.

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RE: Mental Health Encouragement. - 6/20/2008 8:23:34 PM   
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Status: offline 		That reminds me of a problem that I'm going to have to check into. I was supposed to have eight sessions with my therapist before reapplying for disability again. We only got five sessions in. I'm going to have to call them and find out what I should do.

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RE: Mental Health Encouragement. - 6/21/2008 8:39:16 AM   
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Status: offline 		I went to the site for the electronic journal. For some reason, I can't seem to understand the directions right now. Maybe I'll try again in a few hours or days.

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RE: Mental Health Encouragement. - 6/21/2008 1:43:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		aga- thanks for the link to the journal. I'm not sure if that style is for me, but I can see how it would be a great help to others.

anyone- what is the difference between bipolar 1 and bipolar 2?

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RE: Mental Health Encouragement. - 6/21/2008 7:55:00 PM   
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Status: offline 		Officially, the difference is whether or not you've ever had mania as opposed to having only had hypomania. Sticking with officially, psychosis makes it mania not hypomania. BUT there's a lot of debate about whether there's a hypomanic version of mixed states and I've met (both IRL and online) some people whose pdocs diagnosed them as BP2 who've had psychosis...plus if psychosis is never present, the line is really fuzzy since it comes down to stuff like "severity" and "interference in the patient's abilty to function" (which means one pdoc might look at a patient in an episode and say it's mania and thus BP1 while another might say it's only hypomania and thus BP2). And just to make it REALLY confusing, it's not even supposed to count towards a bipolar diagnosis if the manic or hypomanic episode has any identifiable cause other than bipolar (per the DSM criteria)...including use of medications (and yes, antidepressant use counts for this too)...though quite a few pdocs ignore part or all of the "don't diagnose bipolar if there's another cause for the episode clause". So while it starts off clear, by the time you hit the end of the definition, it's about as clear as mud.

So now that I've totally confused you, why'd you ask?
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RE: Mental Health Encouragement. - 6/21/2008 8:16:23 PM   
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So now that I've totally confused you, why'd you ask?


The last time I saw my therapist we were talking about it, but I forgot to ask her the difference.

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