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RE: Terrorists strike in Mumbai India - 12/1/2008 3:00:34 PM
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cow451
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Just the DAY BEFORE the attacks happened...I had gotten in the mail a magazine, and noticed a full-page ad for the Taj Mahal Hotel in it......thought it looked pretty neat. I had never heard of it before.
Then, the next day...this happened.
An interesting note is that the perps made use of Google Maps and other GPS technology.
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RE: Terrorists strike in Mumbai India - 12/1/2008 3:22:37 PM
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Just the DAY BEFORE the attacks happened...I had gotten in the mail a magazine, and noticed a full-page ad for the Taj Mahal Hotel in it......thought it looked pretty neat. I had never heard of it before.
Then, the next day...this happened.
An interesting note is that the perps made use of Google Maps and other GPS technology.
it's the old saying: What many use for "good", some people use for evil. Google maps/GPS technology is great, and has been very helpful for millions of people....it certainly has the potential to be used for evil.
But, take away ALL 'good' things that have been used for "evil", and we'll all end up with nothing....not even Bibles....because those are regularly "misused" by those intent on harming others.
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RE: Terrorists strike in Mumbai India - 12/1/2008 7:28:23 PM
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If they think that Obama will just sing Kum-Ba-ya; then we may well be in for some of our own disasters.
If Obama's decision to retain Robert Gates as his Sec Def is any indicator, RC, I don't think he'll be doing singing exercises anytime soon.
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RE: Terrorists strike in Mumbai India - 12/1/2008 7:32:05 PM
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No matter what you call them, they are MUSLIM.
So what? It's guilt by association?
Round all American Muslims up, and put them into camps surrounded with barbed wire the way FDR shamefully did with Japanese-Americans in WWII?
This type of rationale (or lack of it) is the very one responsible for centuries of anti-Semitism (e.g. the Jews "killed" Christ; let's make them pay for it for the rest of eternity)
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RE: Terrorists strike in Mumbai India - 12/1/2008 11:53:18 PM
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Rockwall
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No matter what you call them, they are MUSLIM.
So what? It's guilt by association?
Round all American Muslims up, and put them into camps surrounded with barbed wire the way FDR shamefully did with Japanese-Americans in WWII?
This type of rationale (or lack of it) is the very one responsible for centuries of anti-Semitism (e.g. the Jews "killed" Christ; let's make them pay for it for the rest of eternity)
Islamic extremist sympathizers don't care who dies as long as we don't say anything negative about the Islamic extremist.
They don't call it the "Religion of Peace" for nothing: Religon of Peace LINK
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RE: Terrorists strike in Mumbai India - 12/2/2008 9:42:04 AM
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kernsfamily
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No matter what you call them, they are MUSLIM.
So what? It's guilt by association?
Round all American Muslims up, and put them into camps surrounded with barbed wire the way FDR shamefully did with Japanese-Americans in WWII?
This type of rationale (or lack of it) is the very one responsible for centuries of anti-Semitism (e.g. the Jews "killed" Christ; let's make them pay for it for the rest of eternity)
Islamic extremist sympathizers don't care who dies as long as we don't say anything negative about the Islamic extremist.
They don't call it the "Religion of Peace" for nothing: Religon of Peace LINK
Islamic extremists are quite different from "regular" Muslims. Almost entirely.
To say that they are not....is essentially saying that ALL "Christians" can be lumped, and equated to, the "Westboro Baptist Church" crowd....the Branch Davidians.....or one of the many "Christian Terrorists" (Eric Rudolph, Tim McVeigh & Friends, and many others)....and ALL of the hucksters on "Christian Television"....
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RE: Terrorists strike in Mumbai India - 12/2/2008 2:48:14 PM
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Rockwall
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Islamic extremist sympathizers don't care who dies as long as we don't say anything negative about the Islamic extremist.
They don't call it the "Religion of Peace" for nothing: Religon of Peace LINK
Islamic extremists are quite different from "regular" Muslims. Almost entirely.
To say that they are not....is essentially saying that ALL "Christians" can be lumped, and equated to, the "Westboro Baptist Church" crowd....the Branch Davidians.....or one of the many "Christian Terrorists" (Eric Rudolph, Tim McVeigh & Friends, and many others)....and ALL of the hucksters on "Christian Television"....
First before I go further, Timothy McVeigh was not a Christian and typically the only ones who say he was a Christian are atheists and those who believe in The Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster. McVeigh's parents dragged him to church as a child but he didn't go to church as an adult. Kind of like even though Obama went to mosques as a child he is not a muslim as an adult.
As for Muslims, one can choose to put their head in the sand but it doesn't make the problem go away. Muslims who despise Jews and Christians are much more the norm than the fringe Christian elements such as Fred Phelps and his church. Many Christians of today are lukewarm and their lives might or might not reflect the teachings of the Bible. On the other hand, many Muslims live and breath their book and the tenets of their book teach them that those who are not Muslim should either be converted, be made to pay a fine, or put to death, period.
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Poll: 1 in 4 U.S. Young Muslims OK With Homicide Bombings Against Civilians
Wednesday, May 23, 2007
One out of four young U.S. Muslims believe homicide bombings against civilians are OK to "defend Islam," according to a new poll.
The poll by the Pew Research Center also finds some Muslim Americans seem to be separating from mainstream America in their attitudes toward the War on Terror and U.S. Mideast policy.
The study found that among the nation's younger Muslims, 26 percent say homicide bombings can at least rarely be justified "in order to defend Islam from its enemies."
Source LINK
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RE: Terrorists strike in Mumbai India - 12/2/2008 4:06:01 PM
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kernsfamily
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On the other hand, many Muslims live and breath their book and the tenets of their book teach them that those who are not Muslim should either be converted, be made to pay a fine, or put to death, period.
then, there are alot of former-Muslims at my church who certainly are 'living on the edge'.....even the people who live directly behind us, who were once Muslim, but are now Catholic.
perhaps somewhere in "their book" it does say that (pay a fine or be put to death)....but, look close enough in our OWN bible....and, it tells us to do some pretty 'whacky' things.......they, too, are able to use that against us, just as we use their "book" against them.
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"We have crazies just like other faiths have them," said Eide Alawan, who directs interfaith outreach at the Islamic Center of America in Dearborn, Mich., one of the nation's largest mosques. He said killing innocent people contradicts Islam.
very good point..and my point, exactly.
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RE: Terrorists strike in Mumbai India - 12/2/2008 5:20:56 PM
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Rockwall
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On the other hand, many Muslims live and breath their book and the tenets of their book teach them that those who are not Muslim should either be converted, be made to pay a fine, or put to death, period.
then, there are alot of former-Muslims at my church who certainly are 'living on the edge'.....even the people who live directly behind us, who were once Muslim, but are now Catholic.
perhaps somewhere in "their book" it does say that (pay a fine or be put to death)....but, look close enough in our OWN bible....and, it tells us to do some pretty 'whacky' things.......they, too, are able to use that against us, just as we use their "book" against them.
From that very article:
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"We have crazies just like other faiths have them," said Eide Alawan, who directs interfaith outreach at the Islamic Center of America in Dearborn, Mich., one of the nation's largest mosques. He said killing innocent people contradicts Islam.
very good point..and my point, exactly.
Key words hi-lighted above "former" and "were". They are not Muslims anymore and are considered infidels and would be condemned to death also.
We are supposed to follow the Old Testament and the New Testament in the Bible. Is it wrong to say that God in the New Testament is more forgiving and merciful than He is in the Old Testament? There may be some "whacky" things in our Bible, but I will say that the punishment given BEFORE Jesus Christ was not the same as the punishment AFTER Jesus Christ.
If we only studied the Old Testament and didn't believe in or read the New Testament, what would we be called? Would we still be considered Christians?
Not sure exactly but from what I understand the God in the Qur'an metes punishment the same as he always has and an infidel is an infidel no matter how you interpret it.
Back to the article posted, does it not surprise you that 1 in 4 Muslims under 30 are willing to accept homicide bombing in defense of Islam?
Here are three links related to the Muslim religion. Read some of these, seriously, then come back and show me some links to killings that are done by Christians on a regular basis (and not the 20 year old Jonestown Guyana tragedy).
Stop Honor Killings LINK
Jihad Watch LINK
Religion of Peace LINK
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