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It's Pardon Season (2008) - 11/24/2008 7:11:22 PM
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todd_t
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Personally, I'm under the opinion that presidential pardons be used rarely instead of in bulk at the end of a president's term.
Nevertheless, here's a list of people whom, Bush has already granted pardons to (with more to come, no doubt; e.g. Scooter Libby):
On the latest pardon list were:
Leslie Owen Collier of Charleston, Mo. She was convicted for unauthorized use of a pesticide and violating the Bald and Golden Eagle Protection Act.
Milton Kirk Cordes of Rapid City, S.D. Cordes was convicted of conspiracy to violate the Lacey Act, which prohibits importation into the country of wildlife taken in violation of conservation laws.
Richard Micheal Culpepper of Mahomet, Ill., who was convicted of making false statements to the federal government.
Brenda Jean Dolenz-Helmer of Fort Worth, Texas, for reporting or helping cover up a crime.
Andrew Foster Harley of Falls Church, Va. Harley was convicted of wrongful use and distribution of marijuana and cocaine.
Obie Gene Helton of Rossville, Ga., whose offense was unauthorized acquisition of food stamps.
Carey C. Hice Sr. of Travelers Rest, S.C., who was convicted of income tax evasion.
Geneva Yvonne Hogg of Jacksonville, Fla., convicted of bank embezzlement.
William Hoyle McCright Jr. of Midland, Texas, who was sentenced for making false entries, books, reports or statements to a bank.
Paul Julian McCurdy of Sulphur, Okla., who was sentenced for misapplication of bank funds.
Robert Earl Mohon Jr. of Grant, Ala., who was convicted of conspiracy to distribute marijuana.
Ronald Alan Mohrhoff of Los Angeles, who was convicted for unlawful use of a telephone in a narcotics felony.
Daniel Figh Pue III of Conroe, Texas, convicted of illegal treatment, storage and disposal of a hazardous waste without a permit.
Orion Lynn Vick of White Hall, Ark., who was convicted of aiding and abetting the theft of government property.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081124/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush_pardons
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RE: It's Pardon Season (2008) - 11/24/2008 7:42:58 PM
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ManimalX
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Hopefully and prayerfully this list grows to include Jose Alonso Compean and Ignacio Ramos.
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RE: It's Pardon Season (2008) - 11/24/2008 7:47:56 PM
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StephK
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It's an executive privilege. It's one of the perks of being the POTUS.
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RE: It's Pardon Season (2008) - 11/24/2008 7:48:52 PM
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Do you know if any of them were being held without bond at the time of the pardons? If so how long were they confined?
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RE: It's Pardon Season (2008) - 11/24/2008 8:00:29 PM
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todd_t
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It's an executive privilege. It's one of the perks of being the POTUS.
Yes, but it shouldn't be abused as much as it is. Too many presidents pass out end-of-term pardons like baseball cards.
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RE: It's Pardon Season (2008) - 11/24/2008 8:07:04 PM
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Acts29
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quote:
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It's an executive privilege. It's one of the perks of being the POTUS.
Yes, but it shouldn't be abused as much as it is. Too many presidents pass out end-of-term pardons like baseball cards.
Politics DOES make strange bedfellows...lol 
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RE: It's Pardon Season (2008) - 11/24/2008 8:26:36 PM
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quote:
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It's an executive privilege. It's one of the perks of being the POTUS.
Yes, but it shouldn't be abused as much as it is. Too many presidents pass out end-of-term pardons like baseball cards.
It's their prerogative. President Bush hasn't pardoned that many people during his 8 years.
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RE: It's Pardon Season (2008) - 11/24/2008 8:28:58 PM
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todd_t
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It's their prerogative.
So that means it should be abused?
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President Bush hasn't pardoned that many people during his 8 years.
These are but the first. A lot more are coming between now and January 20.
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RE: It's Pardon Season (2008) - 11/24/2008 8:38:35 PM
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Did you complain about all of the Clinton pardons or is this partisan whining?
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RE: It's Pardon Season (2008) - 11/24/2008 8:46:10 PM
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Maybe Bush can pardon.....
the american voter.
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RE: It's Pardon Season (2008) - 11/24/2008 11:05:48 PM
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colliefan
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Wasn't Slick Willie convicted of purgery?
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RE: It's Pardon Season (2008) - 11/24/2008 11:25:44 PM
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These are but the first. A lot more are coming between now and January 20.
Well, considering Clinton pardoned 140 some odd scoundrels, inlcuding convicted domestic terrorists and people who were connected with donations to he and his wife, Bush is looking pretty stingy by comparison, to both Clinton and almost any other recent President.
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RE: It's Pardon Season (2008) - 11/25/2008 8:07:04 AM
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Yes Bush is looking pretty stingy indeed. 
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RE: It's Pardon Season (2008) - 11/25/2008 10:18:13 AM
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Personally, I'm under the opinion that presidential pardons be used rarely instead of in bulk at the end of a president's term.
I wonder what connections these folks have that gets them pardoned. As long as he doesn't pardon Oliver North, Gordon Liddy or Yoko Ono, I guess I can live with the perk.
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RE: It's Pardon Season (2008) - 11/25/2008 1:07:11 PM
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colliefan
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I wonder what connections these folks have that gets them pardoned
Could it be the circumstances of their convictions? One knows the tit-for-tat reasons why slick gave out his pardons.
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RE: It's Pardon Season (2008) - 11/25/2008 2:22:26 PM
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cow451
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I wonder what connections these folks have that gets them pardoned
Could it be the circumstances of their convictions? One knows the tit-for-tat reasons why slick gave out his pardons.
It was interesting that several had been convicted for pollution-related crimes. One head-scratcher was the guy that had a food-stamp-related crime.
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RE: It's Pardon Season (2008) - 11/25/2008 2:46:27 PM
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For you Bill Bennet types, here's a site you can use.
Example from the link:
Will George Bush grant a pardon to Rush Limbaugh?
Yes 10/1
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RE: It's Pardon Season (2008) - 11/25/2008 2:53:43 PM
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Well, it's Thanksgiving time, and someone told him that it's traditional to pardon a few turkeys...
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RE: It's Pardon Season (2008) - 11/25/2008 4:29:18 PM
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Maybe Bush can pardon.....
the american voter.
But first, they must do four years of penance.
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RE: It's Pardon Season (2008) - 11/25/2008 6:40:40 PM
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It's their prerogative.
So that means it should be abused?
How would you define abuse?
The only way I can think of would be if pardons were traded for favors as with Clinton and Mark Rich and his wife.
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RE: It's Pardon Season (2008) - 11/25/2008 6:41:49 PM
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I do hope that Bush pardons the two Border Patrol Agents from El Paso.
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RE: It's Pardon Season (2008) - 11/25/2008 7:01:33 PM
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Ronald Alan Mohrhoff of Los Angeles, who was convicted for unlawful use of a telephone in a narcotics felony.
The narcotics felony part i get, but what on earth constitutes unlawful use of a telephone?
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RE: It's Pardon Season (2008) - 11/25/2008 7:01:56 PM
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todd_t
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Well, considering Clinton pardoned 140 some odd scoundrels, inlcuding convicted domestic terrorists and people who were connected with donations to he and his wife
Which I was not too happy about either.
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