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RE: Is Celebrating Christmas important? - 11/25/2008 11:17:18 AM
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TorchHeart
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You don't have to be Catholic, you can be Lutheran!
I'll stick with being Catholic, myself, but if I was going to change denominations, I'd definitely go Lutheran. As a buddy of mine once said, "Its like Catholic Lite" 
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After I became a Christian I was dismayed to find that churches didn't even have a service on that day. That was one of the things I missed not being a Catholic anymore.
 I have yet to see a Christian church where I live that doesn't have mass/services on Christmas Eve and Christmas Day. That's just odd to me.
As for the celebration of Christmas, I think its important. In the grander scheme of things, its a time when we as Christians are traditionally called upon to go out of our way to act as Christ would, and treat people like Christ would want us to treat them. Granted, we should be doing this ALL the time, but Christmas is when we really put an emphasis on it.
In addition, I see no problem with celebrating a holiday that honors our Savior.
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RE: Is Celebrating Christmas important? - 11/25/2008 11:38:21 AM
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Lapidoth
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its a time when we as Christians are traditionally called upon to go out of our way to act as Christ would, and treat people like Christ would want us to treat them.
LOL.
With the way "quote" christians "unquote" act while
shopping, I can live without it. It's enough that the
every day crowds run over you with the shopping carts
or yank things out of your hands. lol.
Thanksgiving isn't even here yet and I see the depressions
and resentments setting in to the people. So, I will continue
"enjoying" my time completely ignoring the sales and the
false festivities.
And believe it or not, if you keep X-mass, you're a catholic. lol.
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RE: Is Celebrating Christmas important? - 11/25/2008 11:52:50 AM
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Lapidoth
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Again .....some have missed this point:
The Lords purpose is fulfilled in His death and Resurrection. It has nothing to do with His birth. Humans celebrate births and mourn deaths.
However, God is paradoxical in regards to our human paradigm, celebrates His death!
I live in a muslim country. The town council gleefuily welcomes the celebration of Christmas in the town. They even extend resources including funds to celebrate the occasion. Of course we understand that they do it out of the prespective of encouraging commercial activity. AND the church here gleefuly accepts their invitation! I wonder what Jeremiah would have said!
However, try celebrating the death/ressurection in the town square!
This what i am trying to point out. The world seems to be able to come to accepting Christmas but not the passover. Why?
In this regard, all the countries (including the USA) are the same.
That should be an eye opener, but we are blinded by these party times.
The church is "called out" but we are "mixed in" with the world. And we
are blind to it and continue to blind and deceive ourselves.
Those who don't see the difference for the most part have never heard
the "times" God has set apart to celebrate His deeds. And a few have
heard about them, but have no full comprehension of them. Again,
blinded by the "inherited lies" that Jeremiah says we have. And it is
a fact that many times we can not even see what is in the fish tank,
until we get completely out of the tank and look in from the outside.
I've been two years outside that fish tank, and this year it is finally
clear to me. And I recognize I could not see it as long as I was in the tank.
Those who disagree will just dismiss it.
Those who question it will wonder.
Those who want the truth will seek, ask, and knock. And those are the
ones who will find the truth for what it is. "If" they don't settle for just
exchanging one denomination for another.
God Bless everyone and be encouraged.
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Why does He keep quoting Torah? Doesn't He know He's about to abolish it?
http://www.tedpearce.com/Videos/TheForgottenpeople.html
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RE: Is Celebrating Christmas important? - 11/25/2008 11:59:02 AM
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TorchHeart
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However, try celebrating the death/ressurection in the town square!
This what i am trying to point out. The world seems to be able to come to accepting Christmas but not the passover. Why?
What do you call the celebration of Easter?
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RE: Is Celebrating Christmas important? - 11/25/2008 12:01:12 PM
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TorchHeart
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And believe it or not, if you keep X-mass, you're a catholic. lol.
It actually took me five minutes to get this joke. Seriously. And then I laughed anyway. I'm disgraced in myself.
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RE: Is Celebrating Christmas important? - 11/25/2008 12:01:34 PM
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Lapidoth
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ORIGINAL: TorchHeart
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However, try celebrating the death/ressurection in the town square!
This what i am trying to point out. The world seems to be able to come to accepting Christmas but not the passover. Why?
What do you call the celebration of Easter?
Celebrating Nimrod's mommy/wife.
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RE: Is Celebrating Christmas important? - 11/25/2008 12:02:48 PM
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Lapidoth
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ORIGINAL: TorchHeart
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And believe it or not, if you keep X-mass, you're a catholic. lol.
It actually took me five minutes to get this joke. Seriously. And then I laughed anyway. I'm disgraced in myself.
ROFL.........................yep!
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RE: Is Celebrating Christmas important? - 11/25/2008 12:05:17 PM
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I celebrate Christmas. On the other hand if someone does not and elects to celebrate the Jewish holidays I don't complain about it. I show them the respect I wish they would show me. I am not Jewish. Not many who post here are. We are what the Bible refers to as Gentiles. Paul under the authority of God released the Gentiles from the traditions and laws of the Jews. We as gentiles are not commanded to celebrate those holidays. To ask me to celebrate the feast of the passover is tantamount to asking England to celebrate the 4th of July.
The feast of the passover was a celebration of God recognizing the lambs blood on the door post and passing over that house hold when the death angel was going through the city. I have the blood of the Lamb of life now and don't need the sacrificial lamb's blood that was used then. My ancestors were not spared because of that blood. My ancestors, the gentiles, are spared because of the blood of Jesus.
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RE: Is Celebrating Christmas important? - 11/25/2008 12:33:47 PM
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 good post Qtman
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RE: Is Celebrating Christmas important? - 11/25/2008 12:38:22 PM
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TorchHeart
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Celebrating Nimrod's mommy/wife.
Um... celebrating the ressurrection of Christ.
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RE: Is Celebrating Christmas important? - 11/25/2008 1:01:36 PM
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QTMan, my friend (said with all my heart, but you already knew that) if you will not do Passover now, what are you going to do when the males will be commanded to go to Jerusalem for the three pilgrimage holy days, to observe them there or their countries will have no rain? Passover is one of those holy days. Zechariah 14
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RE: Is Celebrating Christmas important? - 11/25/2008 2:42:52 PM
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Qtman
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ORIGINAL: Covaan_Meshuga
QTMan, my friend (said with all my heart, but you already knew that) if you will not do Passover now, what are you going to do when the males will be commanded to go to Jerusalem for the three pilgrimage holy days, to observe them there or their countries will have no rain? Passover is one of those holy days. Zechariah 14
Abiyah if I am around then, and I probably will not be, if I am commanded by God to do something I will of course do it. I do take Holy communion and in my mind that is my passover.
BTW that's one of the things I love about you. We can disagree and still talk and act like friends.
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RE: Is Celebrating Christmas important? - 11/25/2008 3:03:54 PM
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Well, it's because of the kind of man YOU are.
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RE: Is Celebrating Christmas important? - 11/25/2008 7:10:27 PM
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ORIGINAL: Lapidoth
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Again .....some have missed this point:
The Lords purpose is fulfilled in His death and Resurrection. It has nothing to do with His birth. Humans celebrate births and mourn deaths.
However, God is paradoxical in regards to our human paradigm, celebrates His death!
I live in a muslim country. The town council gleefuily welcomes the celebration of Christmas in the town. They even extend resources including funds to celebrate the occasion. Of course we understand that they do it out of the prespective of encouraging commercial activity. AND the church here gleefuly accepts their invitation! I wonder what Jeremiah would have said!
However, try celebrating the death/ressurection in the town square!
This what i am trying to point out. The world seems to be able to come to accepting Christmas but not the passover. Why?
In this regard, all the countries (including the USA) are the same.
That should be an eye opener, but we are blinded by these party times.
The church is "called out" but we are "mixed in" with the world. And we
are blind to it and continue to blind and deceive ourselves.
Those who don't see the difference for the most part have never heard
the "times" God has set apart to celebrate His deeds. And a few have
heard about them, but have no full comprehension of them. Again,
blinded by the "inherited lies" that Jeremiah says we have. And it is
a fact that many times we can not even see what is in the fish tank,
until we get completely out of the tank and look in from the outside.
I've been two years outside that fish tank, and this year it is finally
clear to me. And I recognize I could not see it as long as I was in the tank.
Those who disagree will just dismiss it.
Those who question it will wonder.
Those who want the truth will seek, ask, and knock. And those are the
ones who will find the truth for what it is. "If" they don't settle for just
exchanging one denomination for another.
God Bless everyone and be encouraged.
Amen!
i am slowly crawling my way outta the traditional tank!
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1 The Lord said to Moses, 2 "Speak to the Israelites and say to them: 'These are my appointed feasts, the appointed feasts of the Lord, which you are to proclaim as sacred assemblies. 3 "'There are six days when you may work, but the seventh day is a Sabbath of rest, a day of sacred assembly. You are not to do any work; wherever you live, it is a Sabbath to the Lord.
4 "'These are the Lord's appointed feasts, the sacred assemblies you are to proclaim at their appointed times:
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RE: Is Celebrating Christmas important? - 11/25/2008 7:11:29 PM
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ORIGINAL: TorchHeart
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However, try celebrating the death/ressurection in the town square!
This what i am trying to point out. The world seems to be able to come to accepting Christmas but not the passover. Why?
What do you call the celebration of Easter?
Hi
You try doing that in a muslim country! 
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RE: Is Celebrating Christmas important? - 11/25/2008 7:15:10 PM
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Celebrating Nimrod's mommy/wife.
Um... celebrating the ressurrection of Christ.
So, why is it called easter?
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RE: Is Celebrating Christmas important? - 11/25/2008 7:19:20 PM
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ORIGINAL: Qtman
I celebrate Christmas. On the other hand if someone does not and elects to celebrate the Jewish holidays I don't complain about it. I show them the respect I wish they would show me. I am not Jewish. Not many who post here are. We are what the Bible refers to as Gentiles. Paul under the authority of God released the Gentiles from the traditions and laws of the Jews. We as gentiles are not commanded to celebrate those holidays. To ask me to celebrate the feast of the passover is tantamount to asking England to celebrate the 4th of July.
The feast of the passover was a celebration of God recognizing the lambs blood on the door post and passing over that house hold when the death angel was going through the city. I have the blood of the Lamb of life now and don't need the sacrificial lamb's blood that was used then. My ancestors were not spared because of that blood. My ancestors, the gentiles, are spared because of the blood of Jesus.
Lets for discussion sakes, IF Christmas was not an established man tradition yet and you have
here a celebration of feast of passover which is mentioned in scriptures albeit to Israel BUT a feast of the Lord, no less, would you celebrate it?
Or are you saying a man made tradition makes it a reason to celebrate more than that mentioned as Feasts of the Lord because you are a gentile?
Another point for discussion, IF Christmas was a pagan origin celebration, would you continue with it?
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RE: Is Celebrating Christmas important? - 11/25/2008 8:37:26 PM
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The best answer to this question is to go quickly to the mall and purchase that newly released book by Rick Warren entitled "The purpose of Christmas."
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RE: Is Celebrating Christmas important? - 11/25/2008 8:52:07 PM
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The best answer to this question is to go quickly to the mall and purchase that newly released book by Rick Warren entitled "The purpose of Christmas."
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RE: Is Celebrating Christmas important? - 11/25/2008 9:38:33 PM
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Test: cant see Qts post???
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RE: Is Celebrating Christmas important? - 11/26/2008 3:53:54 AM
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The best answer to this question is to go quickly to the mall and purchase that newly released book by Rick Warren entitled "The purpose of Christmas."
I'm waiting for the purpose driven latke(potato pancake).
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