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DENOMINATIONS ARE SIN - 11/21/2008 10:49:47 PM
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cchsfcaleader
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DENOMINATIONS ARE SIN!!! they devide the Body of Christ so they are sin. we need to get over our denominations and accept that just because someone in your church hasnt been given certain gifts doesnt mean they arent real. anything God used in the Bible God can use now. Prayer clothes are something that is one of the biggest desputes. the annointing on Peter had gave his clothes the ability to heal people. the annointing is what healed people not the clothes. Faith Healing is another one. the key thing about this one is the FAITH part, and unless God tells you a healing isnt in his will then the Healing is in his will. some will take more time then others because it is is God's time and not our's but the healing will still happen. we all are trying to reach people for Christ and in the Bible it says the disples were known by the sighns and wonders they preformed. that is how people will know we are Christians. Lets get over our hipocracy and be like Christ. that is what being a Christian is all about being Christ-like. that means healings, Going into palce where prostistutes, homosexuals, thiefs (or gangs) and preach to them and if we Get killed doing it someone can raise us fromt he dead just like Lazureth. We need to join together accept that God works outside of our denomination's doctrine. we are a body that means Babtist may be a foot and have one gift and Methodist may be hands and that is why God uses us in different ways. lets work together and fight as one body lead by God and not our denomination's doctrine
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RE: DENOMINATIONS ARE SIN - 11/22/2008 9:13:29 AM
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what i am trying to say it that we need to stop saying one group is more into God than the other. we need to start fighting the devil and his demons and get over our denominational tag. i am not saying haveing a denomination is sin but letting that denomination's doctrine restrict what you will do for God is. like if God tell a Babtist to Prophicy most likely he (or she) wont because it isnt in their denominations doctrine. that is how denominations are sin
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RE: DENOMINATIONS ARE SIN - 11/22/2008 9:24:42 AM
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'Let there be no divisions among you'. Paul would write to the ekklesia in Galatia, etc.etc. Omaha has only one ekklesia. Denver has only one ekklesia. You follow me? Denominatios are divisions that the word condemns. As soon as you put a name on your gathering, you have divided from others. We do this because we lack the Spirit in our gatherings. We have institutionalized our meetings. We have incorporated them into business's with a CEO at the top. What we call 'church' today is pitiful. No resemblance to what we see in the word.
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RE: DENOMINATIONS ARE SIN - 11/22/2008 11:31:09 AM
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i am not saying haveing a denomination is sin
Could've fooled me...
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DENOMINATIONS ARE SIN!!!
Now, I agree that divisions in the body of Christ are sinful. But you get divisions with or without denominations. A local church can be divided over something as stupid as carpet color. And not all denominations automatically induce division. Some do, yes, but that's not denominationalism's fault - it's the fault of those in authority, lording a false holiness of works over those underneath them. They think that by creating their own rules and following them, that God will like them more. What we need to do is teach the unity (but not uniformity) of Christ, instead of poking at the strawman of denominations.
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RE: DENOMINATIONS ARE SIN - 11/22/2008 12:16:47 PM
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We do this because we lack the Spirit in our gatherings. We have institutionalized our meetings. We have incorporated them into business's with a CEO at the top. What we call 'church' today is pitiful. No resemblance to what we see in the word.
Speak for yourself and your own Church; please do not generalize for it is not valid.
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RE: DENOMINATIONS ARE SIN - 11/22/2008 1:21:53 PM
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cchsfcaleader
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not letting God move because your denomination's doctrine is wrong. have a tag isnt wrong. but letting that tag define you is. therea re other ways that churches can be divied but the biggest one is denominations. we need to unite as one and fight. the people that get devided by the color of carpets arent even Christians most of the time. the point i am trying to make isnt that have a tag is sin but not letting God move for any reason is. and one of the main reasons that we dotn do stuff is because of our denomination's doctrine.
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RE: DENOMINATIONS ARE SIN - 11/22/2008 1:34:22 PM
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the people that get devided by the color of carpets arent even Christians most of the time.
I'm sure God is comfortable letting you do His job there.
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one of the main reasons that we dotn do stuff is because of our denomination's doctrine.
I disagree. The main reason we don't do stuff is because we're selfish and proud, and want things to go our way. That would happen with or without denominations.
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RE: DENOMINATIONS ARE SIN - 11/22/2008 1:56:25 PM
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RC, if you were telling me the truth your answer would be more like 'You know Devon, you are right. Dead church services everywhere. Men on the take and the folks love it so. But let me tell you something. Where I fellowship, God has really been good to us. We are not perfect, but He is doing some awesome things in our midst. Wish you could be a part of our gathering. God bless and lead you Devon.' Or is that just the way I would respond to you?
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RE: DENOMINATIONS ARE SIN - 11/22/2008 2:16:31 PM
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RC, if you were telling me the truth your answer would be more like 'You know Devon, you are right. Dead church services everywhere. Men on the take and the folks love it so. But let me tell you something. Where I fellowship, God has really been good to us. We are not perfect, but He is doing some awesome things in our midst. Wish you could be a part of our gathering. God bless and lead you Devon.' Or is that just the way I would respond to you?
Well I am glad things are going well at your Church, but I maust ask where you get your erroneous informatikn about all olther Chruches.
I will give you that there are probably some Churches that are off base and it the Church business for something other than spreading the Gospel and growing the Saints; but you generalize far too much.
What is it that is different about your gathering and the all the "Dead" Churces you are dissing?
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RE: DENOMINATIONS ARE SIN - 11/22/2008 3:49:11 PM
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I see two main reasons for denominations. One is the fact that some people just can't abide the thoughts and actions of others or wish to say and do things that others can not abide. The other is power. When people become concerned enough about these things they set up structures to ensure that they will not be confronted by them.
I can not say that these things are good or bad in and of themselves. I just choose to interact with anyone who is willing to engage in respectful discourse and, at least for that moment, refrain from actions that I find offensive.
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RE: DENOMINATIONS ARE SIN - 11/22/2008 4:00:19 PM
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i am not trying to "dis" anyone. i am just trying to get everyone to join together and start fighting the devil as one. we may not fight him in the same way but we still need to fight him. he is waging war agaist us and we need to wage war back. lets stop letting the fight come to us and bring the fight to him. lets get him out of where we live and go into his teritory. we are being like the 12 tribes of Israel. we are fighting eachother and then when our real enemy comes we are getting destroyed. the nation of Israel is how we act alot. and this is one of those times that we need to learn from their mistake and join together before the devil lauches a bigger assualt than ussual and sends everything he can at us and God lets him because of our sin. and i am not say that denominations is going to be the end of us because there were 12 tribes. the only thing we need to do is join together before we are over run and become slaves.
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RE: DENOMINATIONS ARE SIN - 11/22/2008 4:03:47 PM
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i am just trying to get everyone to join together and start fighting the devil as one.
I agree. Which is why we need to stop complaining about the evils of denominationalism and start reaching across the ropes to begin denominational reconciliation.
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RE: DENOMINATIONS ARE SIN - 11/22/2008 5:47:19 PM
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Now that I will agree with this one. Each group claiming to be right, while the others are considered heresy. I wonder what the Lord thinks about calling a brother or sister in the Lord a heretic?
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what i am trying to say it that we need to stop saying one group is more into God than the other. we need to start fighting the devil and his demons and get over our denominational tag. i am not saying haveing a denomination is sin but letting that denomination's doctrine restrict what you will do for God is. like if God tell a Babtist to Prophicy most likely he (or she) wont because it isnt in their denominations doctrine. that is how denominations are sin
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RE: DENOMINATIONS ARE SIN - 11/22/2008 6:46:40 PM
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RC said:What is it that is different about your gathering and the all the "Dead" Churces you are dissing?
I've been trying to make that clear? How interested are you in having that question answered RC?
Let me know and I'll PM you some sources of study. God bless.
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RE: DENOMINATIONS ARE SIN - 11/22/2008 7:30:06 PM
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alright we are all in aggrement i presume that we want to bring the denominations together. so how about at each of our churches we go to the leadership and tell them we should start to work wtih the brothers and sisters outside of our denomination as one.
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RE: DENOMINATIONS ARE SIN - 11/22/2008 7:57:43 PM
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so how about at each of our churches we go to the leadership and tell them we should start to work wtih the brothers and sisters outside of our denomination as one.
Many already do and have been for decades.
There is a lot of generalization going on here by a few and that is ironic.
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RE: DENOMINATIONS ARE SIN - 11/22/2008 8:02:19 PM
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well how about we the people organize it and show our leadership what happens when we let God organize something through us and let God lead it.
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RE: DENOMINATIONS ARE SIN - 11/22/2008 8:18:06 PM
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Why don't we just talk to the people we come across in our daily lives. If we depend on "leadership" we are just perpetuating to same problem, in my opinion.
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RE: DENOMINATIONS ARE SIN - 11/22/2008 8:29:38 PM
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that is what we should do as by ourselves but a battle isnt fought by one person. some times we have one-on-one duels but we still have major battles that we need to fight together.
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RE: DENOMINATIONS ARE SIN - 11/22/2008 9:13:27 PM
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If I am creating relationships with those around me, why would I trust somebody I do not have a relationship with?
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RE: DENOMINATIONS ARE SIN - 11/22/2008 9:27:24 PM
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what do u mean? like why trust another church since you dont know them
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RE: DENOMINATIONS ARE SIN - 11/22/2008 9:44:34 PM
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so how about at each of our churches we go to the leadership and tell them we should start to work wtih the brothers and sisters outside of our denomination as one.
Many already do and have been for decades.
There is a lot of generalization going on here by a few and that is ironic.
My church already does this and I know many others that do.
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RE: DENOMINATIONS ARE SIN - 11/22/2008 10:03:00 PM
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yes but we act like we are one in public and then in the own church we treat other denominations like they are completely wrong
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RE: DENOMINATIONS ARE SIN - 11/22/2008 10:03:54 PM
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what do u mean? like why trust another church since you dont know them
What I mean is if I am already communicating with those around me, without regard to whomever else they may interact, why wouldn't I band together with them in a time of threat rather than depend on some "leader" to fight for me.
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