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RE: Twilight - 11/24/2008 7:25:38 AM
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Memaw.
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I took DD to see it last night. Out of 10 I would rate it a 5-6. The sequel was announced Nov 22.
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RE: Twilight - 11/24/2008 9:23:24 AM
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ORIGINAL: BHL Why is it that we as Christians fail to see the spiritual deception within the books and movies? It's ok to admire those who are undead because they only drink animal blood? It's ok to be willing to desire to become an undead in order to have true love? God Bless BHL, My daughter is an AVID reader, who loves fantasy. She has read through all of the books in our church library (which is large) that are of this genre and reread most of them. At 14 she is mature in life but most of all in her faith. I talk to dd constantly about her faith and what she reads/sees. We have talked about the song that says "be careful little eyes what you see and little ears what you hear". She understands what that means; there are things that she has chosen not to read and view based on her own conviction. Really, you should not paint with such a broad brush.
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RE: Twilight - 11/24/2008 9:26:20 AM
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Have to agree with most posts... The movie was fine, one decent action scene and the rest was ok. (Personally, I totally prefer the HP movies) Our first local showing started 10 min after high school got out. It was hilarious to see the girls FLY out of school, jump into the parents car and we must have had a parade down to the movie theatre. Apparently, according to many there who'd read the book (I haven't had time to do so.) it held pretty true to the book.
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RE: Twilight - 11/24/2008 10:49:22 AM
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Well I am 44, and I LOVED it....LOL. I have read all the books. I personally didn't really care for books. The first one was the best. I expect alot more from the next movie. I guess I am still a 16 year old at heart. My girls are coming home for Thanksgiving and we are all going to see it together. The music was really good too.
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RE: Twilight - 11/24/2008 12:41:39 PM
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ORIGINAL: floydette Personally, I totally prefer the HP movies They are better made, but totally mainstream Hollywood, even if they are filmed in the UK. And their budgets are many, many times the budget of Twilight. However, New Moon, the Twilight sequel, will likely have a much larger budget. Kristen Stewart and Robert Pattinson reportedly got $1 million each for Twilight (which is a pretty good salary, IMO, for two young actors staring in a low budget film). They are reportedly getting $10 million each for New Moon, plus a percentage of the proceeds (I seriously doubt Taylor Lautner, who will have a big role in New Moon, is getting paid anywhere near that).
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RE: Twilight - 11/24/2008 1:38:38 PM
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ORIGINAL: BHL Why is it that we as Christians fail to see the spiritual deception within the books and movies? God Bless Dear BHL~ Because we spend more time indulging and justifying our personal, private, desires instead of examining Truth for ourselves in the presence of our Lord. I hear you. Blessings, Melanie
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RE: Twilight - 11/24/2008 2:06:53 PM
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stateofgrace
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Wow. Maybe we should start an ongoing "Twilight" thread like the old Harry Potter thread in books... I thought we'd be avoiding this sort of thing with "Twilight"...but I guess any excuse to jump in and rail at Christians who don't believe it's a sin to occasionally enjoy 1) fiction, 2) movies, 3) and especially fantasy... From people who don't know the rest of us, know nothing about our individual relationships with Christ, nothing about our priorities, etc.
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RE: Twilight - 11/24/2008 2:38:10 PM
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eek! Ok, are you talking one of the fun HP threads where we talked about the book, or the ones who questioned people status of a Christianity if they read them??
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RE: Twilight - 11/24/2008 4:46:00 PM
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I think you meant questioned people's status as a Christian, right? That's what I was referring to. There's a real art to standing up for your own convictions without coming across as a Pharisee.
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RE: Twilight - 11/24/2008 7:39:08 PM
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yep that is what I meant. I was listening to a lecture at the same time I was posting...
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RE: Twilight - 11/26/2008 3:26:26 PM
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The movie was OK. Read the book first and you'll be disappointed by the movie. See the movie first and you may not get around to reading the book. The movie does a terrible job at highlighting the endearing nature of the main characters' relationship with each other. It is exactly their relationship that made the books worth reading IMO (coupled with the goodness in their nature of course). Don't worry about this being one of those stories where the "good guy" is some jerk that you hate only a little less than the bad guy(s). Its not that way at all.
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RE: Twilight - 12/1/2008 5:57:05 PM
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DD and I have seen it 2x now. My sons have each seen it once. We really enjoyed it. I guess we didn't go in with high expectations - rarely ever is a movie as good as the book. I will say though DD and I enjoyed it much more the 2nd time around. The sequel has been announced. They've already announced that much of it will be shot in Italy :) They will have a bigger budget which is awesome! When I found out they didn't even have $$ for a green screen in their budget but still did the film, I thought they did a pretty good job. It's hard to get a 500 page book into a 2 hour movie. I wish they hadn't glossed over some things but I think all in all they did a decent job to the book. YouTube has all kinds of clips of interview with all the cast members. Pretty interesting.
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RE: Twilight - 12/2/2008 11:33:50 AM
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I heard the movie is satanic, there is a revie about the movi on cbn.com I think that the website the christian news show that comes on tbn.
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RE: Twilight - 12/2/2008 11:37:57 AM
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I don't put a lot of stock in CBN or TBN. MemorableWoman, if you're concerned about it, I would talk to a friend who has seen it or read the books and find out how they feel.
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RE: Twilight - 12/2/2008 4:46:23 PM
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I heard the movie is satanic, there is a revie about the movi on cbn.com I think that the website the christian news show that comes on tbn. I think the letters "TBN" say it all. Some people are just intent on finding a demon around every corner....
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RE: Twilight - 12/12/2008 9:49:53 AM
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TBN is Christianity's CNN. worthless network
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RE: Twilight - 12/13/2008 11:24:21 PM
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Why is it that we as Christians fail to see the spiritual deception within the books and movies? It's ok to admire those who are undead because they only drink animal blood? It's ok to be willing to desire to become an undead in order to have true love? News flash: there are no such things as vampires. They are fiction.
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RE: Twilight - 12/14/2008 8:25:25 AM
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Why is it that we as Christians fail to see the spiritual deception within the books and movies? It's ok to admire those who are undead because they only drink animal blood? It's ok to be willing to desire to become an undead in order to have true love? News flash: there are no such things as vampires. They are fiction. My day is ruined.
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RE: Twilight - 12/14/2008 12:04:15 PM
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My day is ruined. Sorry, consider it tough love. Also, there is no Santa Claus or Fountain of Youth hidden somewhere in Florida either.
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RE: Twilight - 12/14/2008 7:36:54 PM
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My day is ruined. Sorry, consider it tough love. Also, there is no Santa Claus or Fountain of Youth hidden somewhere in Florida either. you are a brute. and wrong. Because I have a bottom of stuff from the Fountain of Youth in Florida. SO, you OBVIOUSLY do not know what you are talking about. so there.
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RE: Twilight - 12/14/2008 11:44:10 PM
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My day is ruined. Sorry, consider it tough love. Also, there is no Santa Claus or Fountain of Youth hidden somewhere in Florida either. I suppose the Easter Bunny and Tooth Fairy are fake too?
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RE: Twilight - 12/15/2008 12:32:59 PM
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ORIGINAL: todd_t quote:
Why is it that we as Christians fail to see the spiritual deception within the books and movies? It's ok to admire those who are undead because they only drink animal blood? It's ok to be willing to desire to become an undead in order to have true love? News flash: there are no such things as vampires. They are fiction. But entertaining fiction! Seriously, one could find fault with the classics such as War and Peace or Jane Eyre as being "un-Christian". I read Catcher in the Rye knowing that it was controversial, and much of youth lit read in the school system is- The Chocolate War, for instance or James and the Giant Peach. How about Where the Wild Things Are? Isn't that about magic and monsters? And yet it is a Newberry-winning children's classic and recommended by none other than Dr. James Dobson himself as a great book for small children. I've also read the works of Euclid, Plato, and Aristotle, Cicero, and Seneca- all pagan philosophers and oraters of Ancient Greece and Rome. I've studied the essays of Julius Ceasar on military strategy as well as the works of St. Augustine. I've read works by all kinds of people from all kinds of cultures and religions, enjoyed some more than others, and gained insight into many different peoples, times, and places. Knowledge in itself is not evil- only what one does or fails to do with it. Reading the Twilight or Harry Potter series- as fiction- is not evil either. I've always read with my kids and we discuss the stories and characters, compared and contrasted them with reality and the human condition, and decided whether or not they were good literature or not. JK Rowling is definitely a better writer than Frank Peretti as her characters have far more depth and "real" feel to them, and the situations more dramatic and detailed, and more real despite being absolute fantasies peopled by magic folk. Fantasy and fiction have their place. Does anyone not stop to think that the parables told by Jesus were little fictional stories told to teach a moral or make plain a truth? How about the folk tales many of us grew up with which do the same thing? Surely no one thinks that Hansel and Gretel is a tale of the dangers of pigging out on sweets, or that Sleeping Beauty is merely an admonition to await true love. One who is secure in one's faith should not be bothered by reading fiction or fantasy where care has been taken to keep it clean of profanity and the "good" characters are advocates of morally upright behavior. They don't have to be squeaky clean, as we humans in reality never are, but they need to be real enough for us to learn from their actions so as to weigh our own behaviors/attitudes in our hearts and listen for God to use the lesson to speak to us, just as He does from our observations of real people. Reading is an exercise of the mind and imagination, and good literature plants seeds of wisdom and beauty in the heart.
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RE: Twilight - 12/15/2008 3:07:00 PM
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ORIGINAL: PaleHawkWoman But entertaining fiction! Seriously, one could find fault with the classics such as War and Peace or Jane Eyre as being "un-Christian". I read Catcher in the Rye knowing that it was controversial, and much of youth lit read in the school system is- The Chocolate War, for instance or James and the Giant Peach. How about Where the Wild Things Are? Isn't that about magic and monsters? And yet it is a Newberry-winning children's classic and recommended by none other than Dr. James Dobson himself as a great book for small children. I've also read the works of Euclid, Plato, and Aristotle, Cicero, and Seneca- all pagan philosophers and oraters of Ancient Greece and Rome. I've studied the essays of Julius Ceasar on military strategy as well as the works of St. Augustine. I've read works by all kinds of people from all kinds of cultures and religions, enjoyed some more than others, and gained insight into many different peoples, times, and places. Knowledge in itself is not evil- only what one does or fails to do with it. Reading the Twilight or Harry Potter series- as fiction- is not evil either. I've always read with my kids and we discuss the stories and characters, compared and contrasted them with reality and the human condition, and decided whether or not they were good literature or not. JK Rowling is definitely a better writer than Frank Peretti as her characters have far more depth and "real" feel to them, and the situations more dramatic and detailed, and more real despite being absolute fantasies peopled by magic folk. Fantasy and fiction have their place. Does anyone not stop to think that the parables told by Jesus were little fictional stories told to teach a moral or make plain a truth? How about the folk tales many of us grew up with which do the same thing? Surely no one thinks that Hansel and Gretel is a tale of the dangers of pigging out on sweets, or that Sleeping Beauty is merely an admonition to await true love. One who is secure in one's faith should not be bothered by reading fiction or fantasy where care has been taken to keep it clean of profanity and the "good" characters are advocates of morally upright behavior. They don't have to be squeaky clean, as we humans in reality never are, but they need to be real enough for us to learn from their actions so as to weigh our own behaviors/attitudes in our hearts and listen for God to use the lesson to speak to us, just as He does from our observations of real people. Reading is an exercise of the mind and imagination, and good literature plants seeds of wisdom and beauty in the heart. EXCELLENTLY put. I truly enjoyed reading this. Thank you so much for taking the time to post.
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