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RE: Al-Qaida No. 2 insults Obama with race epithet - 11/20/2008 9:07:35 PM
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SovereignIsHe
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So John, what about putting out the challenge to memorize the New Testament by this time next year? And requesting that churches start orthodoxy/Apologetics classes?
What's the point of having robots who can recite verses? Wisdom is the issue, not memorizing scripture...
People post verses here all the time and frankly many times it's had NOTHING to do with the subject...
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RE: Al-Qaida No. 2 insults Obama with race epithet - 11/23/2008 6:47:27 PM
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While it is unlikely that I will ever be elected the President of the Obama fan club, the fact is when a scumbag like Zawahri insults the American President, as an American citizen I am as offended as I would be if he insulted myself or my own.
And as doubtful as I am about our new President's resolve when it comes to dealing with such people, I hope this helps him find it in his heart to come up with a way to blow these people to Kingdom Come.
Jack, I agree wholehearted with your statement.
Though I'm hoping that the change Obama has been promising includes procuring the 72 virgins for the President of Iran as well. Maybe a couple of wacky-fun-loving Iranian clerics as well.
Now, that's change that I can believe in!!!
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RE: Al-Qaida No. 2 insults Obama with race epithet - 11/24/2008 8:02:45 AM
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I was wondering if Obama having a muslim dad, step-dad and also attending a muslim school for a few years while living in Indonesia caused some muslims to vote for him and it turns out that is the case. Perhaps some of the more liberal Moslems voted for him for that reason, but it is more likely that the more fundy islamists consider him an infidel who abandoned islam and is deserving of execution.
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RE: Al-Qaida No. 2 insults Obama with race epithet - 11/24/2008 8:07:35 PM
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So John, what about putting out the challenge to memorize the New Testament by this time next year? And requesting that churches start orthodoxy/Apologetics classes?
What's the point of having robots who can recite verses? Wisdom is the issue, not memorizing scripture...
People post verses here all the time and frankly many times it's had NOTHING to do with the subject...
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What's the point of having robots who can recite verses? Wisdom is the issue, not memorizing scripture...
Mt 10:19 - Show Context
But when they deliver you up, ...do not worry about how or what ....you should speak. For it will be given to you in that hour what you should speak;
Isa 30:18 - Show Context
Therefore the Lord will wait, that He may be gracious to you; And therefore He will be exalted, that He may have mercy on you. For the Lord is a God of justice; Blessed are all those who wait for Him. 
John and Gypsy, Jewish believers of the 1st century AD grew up reciting the Torah, and Paul as a pharisee was trained in rabbinical law as well as having extensively studied the Scriptures. The point is that few christians actually know the Bible with the intimacy that believers of the early church did. Many christians do not know church history or basic doctrine either. How then is one to defend the faith when one does not know it? Far too many of us make absolute fools out of ourselves and the faith because of our ignorance of the basics.
Memorization of any work is not merely recitation- it requires thought, focus, and dedication. Just as reading of the Scriptures is supposed to promote meditation upon the passage(s) read, so too should memorization of them. Going over something enough to memorize it should also provide ample opportunity for incorporation into one's thought processes. There are those who read thru the Bible in a year, following a study plan. Why not have a study guide for memorization?
Memorization promotes higher brain activity and is shown by recent medical research to stave off many forms of dementia. So it would not only benefit the soul but the brain- and ultimately the body- as well. People who regularly memorize things devevlop better memorization abilities as their brains rewire themselves, thus increasing the speed and capacity for memorization and recall.
I don't see a downside to this, nor a reason to criticize it.
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RE: Al-Qaida No. 2 insults Obama with race epithet - 11/24/2008 8:27:04 PM
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While it is unlikely that I will ever be elected the President of the Obama fan club, the fact is when a scumbag like Zawahri insults the American President, as an American citizen I am as offended as I would be if he insulted myself or my own.
I dunno. It's hard for me to be offended by the wailing of a two-bit lunatic. Were I Obama, I wouldn't waste a calorie of concern over what Zawahri thought of me.
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RE: Al-Qaida No. 2 insults Obama with race epithet - 11/25/2008 4:02:29 AM
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While it is unlikely that I will ever be elected the President of the Obama fan club, the fact is when a scumbag like Zawahri insults the American President, as an American citizen I am as offended as I would be if he insulted myself or my own.
I dunno. It's hard for me to be offended by the wailing of a two-bit lunatic. Were I Obama, I wouldn't waste a calorie of concern over what Zawahri thought of me.
That reminds me: what do you think Louis Farrakhan should be thinking about Zawahiri's comments--especially after the former proclaims Obama as "The Messiah," not to mention that Farrakhan and the Al Qaeda spokesperson are supposedly of the same Sunni brand of Islam? 
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RE: Al-Qaida No. 2 insults Obama with race epithet - 11/25/2008 6:35:51 AM
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Sounds to me like someone is intentionally trying to stir the pot..... Ya think???
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RE: Al-Qaida No. 2 insults Obama with race epithet - 11/25/2008 9:43:32 AM
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In al-Qaida's first response to Obama's victory, al-Zawahri also called the president-elect — along with secretaries of state Colin Powell and Condoleezza Rice — "house negroes."
For this story to have any sort of credence with me, someone is going to have to explain to me, just exactly how an Arab is going to know what a "house negro" is.
This being a term used in the US many moons ago, is not a term I would think that Arabs,/Muslims would be familiar with .
Sounds to me like someone is intentionally trying to stir the pot.....
Really??
They can't possibly know about that term? There are those in muslim society who study our culture, history and country inside and out. The more understanding of us they have, the more they can manipulate our weaknesses.
Once again, underestimating evil... 
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RE: Al-Qaida No. 2 insults Obama with race epithet - 11/25/2008 3:03:08 PM
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Have you ever studied another culture? The only way to truly know another culture is to submerge yourself in it, to become like one of them. This guy did not, has not and will not do this.
It is a slang term and has American repertoire all over it...
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RE: Al-Qaida No. 2 insults Obama with race epithet - 11/25/2008 8:07:29 PM
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While it is unlikely that I will ever be elected the President of the Obama fan club, the fact is when a scumbag like Zawahri insults the American President, as an American citizen I am as offended as I would be if he insulted myself or my own.
I dunno. It's hard for me to be offended by the wailing of a two-bit lunatic. Were I Obama, I wouldn't waste a calorie of concern over what Zawahri thought of me.
That reminds me: what do you think Louis Farrakhan should be thinking about Zawahiri's comments--especially after the former proclaims Obama as "The Messiah," not to mention that Farrakhan and the Al Qaeda spokesperson are supposedly of the same Sunni brand of Islam?
Nation of Islam beliefs are not considered real Islam by most muslims, and Farakhan is considered a heretic.
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RE: Al-Qaida No. 2 insults Obama with race epithet - 11/25/2008 8:29:13 PM
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In al-Qaida's first response to Obama's victory, al-Zawahri also called the president-elect — along with secretaries of state Colin Powell and Condoleezza Rice — "house negroes."
For this story to have any sort of credence with me, someone is going to have to explain to me, just exactly how an Arab is going to know what a "house negro" is.
This being a term used in the US many moons ago, is not a term I would think that Arabs,/Muslims would be familiar with .
Sounds to me like someone is intentionally trying to stir the pot.....
Really??
They can't possibly know about that term? There are those in muslim society who study our culture, history and country inside and out. The more understanding of us they have, the more they can manipulate our weaknesses.
Once again, underestimating evil...
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For this story to have any sort of credence with me, someone is going to have to explain to me, just exactly how an Arab is going to know what a "house negro" is.
Read up about the treatment of the forced conversions of Africans by the militant Islamic, they been raping men and women and children slaves ever since...
Arabs (Islam) ….coined the phrase “house Negro" even before they introduced it to the west.
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RE: Al-Qaida No. 2 insults Obama with race epithet - 11/25/2008 8:34:45 PM
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Read up about the treatment of the forced conversions of Africans by the militant Islamic, they been raping men and women and children slaves ever since...
I will certainly do that. If it turns out to be true, I WILL stand corrected. Thank you, LG.
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RE: Al-Qaida No. 2 insults Obama with race epithet - 11/25/2008 8:45:02 PM
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I will certainly do that. If it turns out to be true, I WILL stand corrected. Thank you, LG.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KC0ms5BO3i0
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RE: Al-Qaida No. 2 insults Obama with race epithet - 11/25/2008 8:55:38 PM
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Thanks for the link. However, I didn't see the relevancy. I don't argue slave trading with Islam. I argue the use of the term "house negro". I didn't see anything related to that in the video.
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RE: Al-Qaida No. 2 insults Obama with race epithet - 11/25/2008 9:27:35 PM
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Thanks for the link. However, I didn't see the relevancy. I don't argue slave trading with Islam. I argue the use of the term "house negro". I didn't see anything related to that in the video.
That’s because their was no such word back then, but the spirit of it is alive and well
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znQe9nUKzvQ
The house Negro is considered by the slang word to be an Oreo = black on the outside but white in the middle.. Like the cookies…
So by al-Zawahri praising the radical Islamic Malcome X is thereby calling the president-elect a… "house Negro." … and al-Zawahri by praising the radical Islamic Malcome X Is calling on what is mentioned in this video below @ between 20 seconds and 35 seconds into the video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNwhbo451YM&feature=related
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I argue the use of the term "house negro". I didn't see anything related to that in the video.
…. in that because Obama being called a house Negro means he won’t be tricked by the same trickery that Islam uses around the world…in that being that a house Negro as expressed by Malcome X… instead of Obama using the rhetoric mentioned in that video @ between 20 seconds and 35 seconds tends to keep the other Negros corrected while in the white mans world
That call by al-Zawahri has nothing to do with a house Negro…. and if one understands the rhetoric... it is actually a call to arms
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RE: Al-Qaida No. 2 insults Obama with race epithet - 11/26/2008 8:57:17 AM
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These people are making propaganda - of course they are going to research that kind of stuff.
Why would they use an american term instead of an interesting arab lingo? Because Obama is from the US, so US-rethoric are more effective/provocative.
Seriously - we are not living in the stoneage in other parts of the world.
My bad. I did not mean to offend and I apologize. I assumed the term was used in American lingo to stir up strife here, not there. I also made the assumption that an American had put a spin on it to cause dissension.
I stand corrected that the term is used in other parts of the world. Forgive my naivete.
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RE: Al-Qaida No. 2 insults Obama with race epithet - 11/26/2008 9:33:47 AM
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I'll even go a step futher and say that they used the term because they knew it applied in America too.
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RE: Al-Qaida No. 2 insults Obama with race epithet - 11/26/2008 6:35:05 PM
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That reminds me: what do you think Louis Farrakhan should be thinking about Zawahiri's comments--especially after the former proclaims Obama as "The Messiah," not to mention that Farrakhan and the Al Qaeda spokesperson are supposedly of the same Sunni brand of Islam?
Either way, I don't care.
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RE: Al-Qaida No. 2 insults Obama with race epithet - 11/26/2008 10:12:33 PM
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...How many Christians memorize the NT?...We understand that our salvation isn't dependent on our works. Praise God that we do.
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