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How do you know if you are flirting/stringing someone a... - 11/16/2008 11:36:49 AM
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willfs
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I get to know a lot of girls just through chatting/friendship and find out they are not what I am looking for. I really think they know what is going on because I am usually the one to initiate meeting/chatting with these woman and I put out some subtle signals. And many of them start flirting with me; however, I usually back off because, by then, I realize that they are not what I am looking for. I used to think my problem was that I was too picky and fickle. But I am starting to think that I just haven't found the right one. I feel bad that I might be hurting some of them because I know a few of them seem really interested in me - but I don't ask them out, I just chat with them until I am positive that she just isn't someone I am really in to. I had one girl (young) who seemed to get angry with me. I liked her for years but only saw her in passing. She knew I liked her and when she finally started flirt with me I never asked her out because I didn't know her that well. She seemed to get mad and now she stays away from me. Sometimes there are girls that I go back to and I wonder if I should. Like a girl I used to chat with on the phone and we were going to go out but I decided not to because she lived so far away. I now have been looking at her facebook page and want to start chatting again. I am 33 and the singles scene is tiny where I live. When it wasn't so tinY (like in college) I was real reserved/shy in my dating. I figure I should have been more outgoing in my "getting to know females" and why not be outgoing in the present as well. Why not get to know as many females as I can so I can find the right one. I am not dating around but kinda flirting around, even though I dont' flirt much, just act real friendly with the intention of getting to know I if I want to pursue more. Is my "line of attack" leaving a lot of hurt woman in my trail? When I say that I realize that some of them seemed a little ticked off or frustrated with me but none of them seemed that hurt.
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RE: How do you know if you are flirting/stringing someo... - 11/16/2008 12:35:17 PM
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Why do you have to flirt at all. Why not just have genuine conversation with people you come in contact with and not analyze everyone so much? Being in this position, guessing what everyone is thinking and what game they're playing, has got to be the most dreadful thing about being single!
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RE: How do you know if you are flirting/stringing someo... - 11/16/2008 1:42:14 PM
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Let me be blunt, Willfs; it's meant in the kindest way: Why are you putting out signals when you don't know if they are God's woman for you? The initial stage of a relationship of a man pursuing a wife isn't the same as friendship, and you could be doing the first when it's only appropriate to do the second. It's supposed to be the first step in bonding a couple together for life that already has a good idea it's God's plan, not for "testing the goods" and revocable at a moment's notice. God brings people together at the right time. If a woman isn't for you, she's probably going to be some other guy's wife in time. You don't want to be leading her on and dumping her or messing with her feelings since they aren't yours to mess with. Her feelings are (hopefully) being saved for the right guy at the right time. Granted, a lot of women don't have the sense of waiting for the right guy, and they might also being doing the mating dance start up with any guy who just shows an interest but might not be a suitable match. This can cause a lot of hardship and broken hearts. If you're asking this question then it's worth looking into, as it could be God leading you to change how you relate to single gals. God bless you for asking and wondering, and may He bring you the right one for you soon!
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RE: How do you know if you are flirting/stringing someo... - 11/16/2008 2:56:24 PM
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ORIGINAL: csl7037 Why do you have to flirt at all. I am not really flirting. I am being friendly, sometimes in a bold way. However, the signals will get out. When I walk into a room and out of the corner of my eye see a pretty girl, and I turn my head for a quick glance to see who this person is, I really think they can tell. I am not overtly flirty but I think that most all of them can tell what is going on, especially when I am friendly with them a couple days later. quote:
ORIGINAL: deermousie Why are you putting out signals when you don't know if they are God's woman for you? Putting out the signals is more what I am doing. Maybe I should back off and hide my interest more but that can be difficult, especially with that wierd and unpredictable feminine intuition. How am I supposed to know if she is God's woman for me unless I get to know her?
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RE: How do you know if you are flirting/stringing someo... - 11/16/2008 3:36:41 PM
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get to know her (them) because she might be a really interesting person not to give her some kind of pop quiz. And your attentions shouldn't only be directed at the pretty girl in the room. You're probably missing out on a lot. I think we're just saying your perspective is off and your motivation is clear if you're just fishing for ms right. You'd be surprised what a difference it might make if you focused on just getting to know people (men & women) just because they might be nice to know. Ms right would eventually emrge I'm sure. And shell probably be relieved to meet a genuine guy for a change.
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RE: How do you know if you are flirting/stringing someo... - 11/16/2008 4:52:44 PM
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quote:
ORIGINAL: willfs quote:
ORIGINAL: csl7037 Why do you have to flirt at all. I am not really flirting. You said you were in the OP.... Being friendly to get to know them is ok. If you've just been friendly and then decide that you don't want to pursue it any further, you've done nothing wrong. If that ruffles their feathers, they've read way too much into it and that's their problem. But if you are flirting, you are leading them on and you need to knock it off.
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RE: How do you know if you are flirting/stringing someo... - 11/16/2008 7:52:24 PM
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I disagree with your approach WHOLEHEARTEDLY. If you are interested and then, find out that by talking for a while, she's not it, you redress? That's cheap! What's the point in flirting if she's likely to not be your taste. I would be angry at you just the same. If I were you, I would at least go on the date and then tell her you weren't interested. Just talking, making her think you're interested and then heading away??? PSK. There is nothing wrong with a date, it does not mean that you are interested in becoming the person's boyfriend. If you leave these women in the cold, you are in fact doing what you siad above...stringing alone and acting like a jerk. Who's to say that these girls would date you after you decide that she's the one you like?? It's really not cool of you.
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RE: How do you know if you are flirting/stringing someo... - 11/16/2008 9:49:19 PM
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ORIGINAL: BeautifulFemale stringing alone and acting like a jerk. Wow. I don't know if you understand what I am saying. In any case, are you calling me a jerk. That's kinda rude. Here's what I do. I see a girl who I might actually be attracted to OR who just seems like she would be a lot of fun OR who seems interested in me OR who I may not be extremely attracted to but she seems like a good person. I will then initiate conversations with her. It's usually nothing big but I think they can tell that I like them. I usually find out that they are not what I am looking for but I continue to act friendly and talk to them. I just never ask them out. There have been a small minority who I have actually done more with like talk on the phone and we even talked about going on dates but I ended up changing my mind. I then backed off a lot (but I wonder about calling one of them back up). I was just afraid I was being fickle or picky. I have not been able to change and I am beginning to wonder if I really am doing anything wrong or if what I am doing is okay and maybe I need to be even more aggressive.
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RE: How do you know if you are flirting/stringing someo... - 11/16/2008 10:01:34 PM
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Maybe I need to clarify a few things. I don't know if what I am doing is flirting but many of the girls seem to know what I am doing, even if I try to hide it, I can tell they know because sometimes they flirt back big time. The most I do is sometimes kinda let them know I notice them by glancing at them. I do get to know them like I would a guy friend (for the most part). I initiate conversations. It's just that they can tell I go out of my way sometimes and I am not always relaxed like I am with a guy and they can tell. I am sorry, it's a good goal to have - getting to know a girl just like a friend - but it just doesn't always work out the exact same way because it is just not the same. I am looking for someone who I am attracted to but I know there is a lot more. And I will hold up my previous choices of who I date as examples of someone with character. But physical attraction is important and just because I give an example above of noticing a pretty girl does not mean that is all I am looking for.
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RE: How do you know if you are flirting/stringing someo... - 11/16/2008 10:32:11 PM
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What you need to clarify is that you are shallow and are playing a game with other folks, because you are not satisfied in your search. But that is on you. You walk around like you are the 'man' yet you run,run,run... when a female reciprocates. I do not think you know what you want, but just enjoy the game
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RE: How do you know if you are flirting/stringing someo... - 11/17/2008 6:16:19 AM
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I think it just sounds like he's out "auditioning" potential wives. I'm not saying there aren't women out there doing this same kind of thing...in them, IMO it's pathetic, in a guy, it's offensive to a woman with any ounce of self-worth. You're not going to find one who meets your standards if you're going into it with this approach...and, if you do, she probably wont want anything to do with you.
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RE: How do you know if you are flirting/stringing someo... - 11/17/2008 7:26:57 AM
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I think many of you have been way too hard on willfs, and might get a better picture of him from reading some of his other threads. Not so long ago, for example, he was being advised to be more obvious with hs possible interest. willfs, could I just ask if these women you have talked about here are Christians?
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RE: How do you know if you are flirting/stringing someo... - 11/17/2008 8:28:45 AM
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Let me just say that this post has been very helpful and is making me really think about why I do what I do, even though I think some of the responses don't quite understand what is going on. I wasn't that clear in my orig. post about flirting. I sometimes glance at girls and kinda let them know I noticed them. I do so to put out a subtle signal. I think I put down flirting because I thought of stuff I would do that I wouldn't normally do if I liked a girl, but that is not always true. I also had in the back of my mind girls that were overtly flirty and I was friendly back but not nessesarily flirty so I took the whole thing as one big flirt but I don't know. Do I think I am God's gift to woman? Sometimes I wonder if I do too much, like if I assume too much that a girl likes me. Like one girl is really nice to me and touchy feely. I kinda backed off because I thought she liked me but she may be that way with every person. Are they Christian? That is what I am trying to figure out but some of them are: the ones I got to know better and called up and stuff, which is very rare. For instance, a girl I pass on occasion came up to me and asked me if I wanted to go out and do something with her. I kinda did but I wasn't sure so I eventually said I was busy. I did want to get to know her better but I didn't want a date. So I talked to her more. There were some awkward times and I felt bad about not doing anything with her. I still talk with her and she seems okay. I wanted to talk with her to see about several things: Is she a Christian. Are her interests compatible with mine. Am I attracted to her. Yes, I was looking to see if she is marriage material. Her good friend: I am not thinking about any of this but I am just being a goofy friend so I dont' do this with every girl. Then there is a girl who made me turn my head when she entered the room. She acted real cold to me and I actually tried to hide/suppress my interest because I wondered if she was getting annoyed that I was noticing her. I would still notice her across the room and eventually she got to where she talks to me. I also have tried to talk to her. When I talk to her I do wonder if she is marriage material but even if she isn't I will still be friendly, I just won't go out of my way to talk to her. So I see a girl I am attracted to and I want to know if she is marriage material, but not always. I might not have talked to the girl who turned my head if I never had the chance but I just so ended up to have that chance. Its just that I do end up "talking" to quite a few woman and ruling them out. I used to think I was picky or flirty. But now I wonder if it's okay because I am trying to figure out what I like and getting to know woman and even if I don't initially like them I might after chatting with them more. Without calling me names, please tell me what is wrong with what I am doing. Be specific and tell me why.
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RE: How do you know if you are flirting/stringing someo... - 11/17/2008 9:17:54 AM
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wills I think if you are asking questions and leaving yourself open to all the different viewpoints from other's here that you sincerely want to do the right thing... I also think that you are a little too intense about it all. Can't you just socialize with groups of people and learn more about them in such a setting? That is what I did for quite a long time before getting married...and seldom had one on one dates unless it was clearly someone I knew more about such as A. Is she a Christian...B. What common interests do we have. I don't think it is fair to you or the lady in question if you don't take time to find out those things first. Would you mind saying how old you are?
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RE: How do you know if you are flirting/stringing someo... - 11/17/2008 9:55:22 AM
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Pssst buckifn: (it's in his OP) quote:
ORIGINAL: willfs I am 33
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RE: How do you know if you are flirting/stringing someo... - 11/17/2008 11:51:48 AM
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ORIGINAL: willfs I wasn't that clear in my orig. post about flirting. I sometimes glance at girls and kinda let them know I noticed them. Bless your heart, Willfs; I think you have gotten a bit of a beating in this thread, but you're taking it like a champ. I appreciate your humility of saying you aren't sure what's going on and asking for advice. Good for you; none of us have it all but we can help each other on particulars sometimes. My wish is to maybe help you understand a little more and continue to grow as a godly man because you're my brother and God loves you as His son. Your heart sounds like it's in the right place - bravo! quote:
Are they Christian? That is what I am trying to figure out but some of them are I have a daughter old enough to marry, so my husband and I worked up a list of "deal breakers" to ease how to look at young men who might be interested in her. She uses this list, too. This is written up to be used for "vetting" either men or women: 1. Are they solid Christians? Do they have a good reputation with their pastor and other mature Christians who've known them for years? Do they live in a way to show that they are knowledgeable of the Bible in how to live, dealing quickly with their sin and living with others in grace and love in God's way? If yes, go on to 2. 2. Are they emotionally, psychologically, socially and mentally healthy enough to face life well, or are willing and determined to become so? If yes, go to 3. 3. Are they prepared for marriage or willing to wait until they are? This includes finished education, a career (for guys), knowledge of marriage skills like conflict resolution according to God's Word, homemaking and kids (for gals), and so on. If so, your interest is well justified! Go to 4. 4. Are they teachable? If yes, go to 5. 5. Are you and they compatible? Are they interested in you as well? Are the people in authority (parents, elders, pastors) in favor of the match? If so, whoo-woo, looks like you've got a live one!!! quote:
I did want to get to know her better but I didn't want a date. So I talked to her more. There were some awkward times and I felt bad about not doing anything with her. I still talk with her and she seems okay. I wanted to talk with her to see about several things: Is she a Christian. Are her interests compatible with mine. Am I attracted to her. Yes, I was looking to see if she is marriage material. Her good friend: I am not thinking about any of this but I am just being a goofy friend so I dont' do this with every girl. This sounds balanced and mature. I'm guessing it would take months to know if someone were marriage material, so you are wise to take things slow. Personal story to illustrate a point: On my third date with my now-husband, he matter-of-factly said he didn't like girls who just liked him for his car (a Mercedes). I immediately shot back, "I couldn't care less about your car; I'm interested in your character." We didn't quite shake hands at that point, but it was a cut-off to weed out shallow priorities, and we both passed. He now drives a beat up old truck, but he still has great character! quote:
Then there is a girl who made me turn my head when she entered the room. OK, this is where you tell yourself, "She's pretty. So what?" quote:
She acted real cold to me and I actually tried to hide/suppress my interest because I wondered if she was getting annoyed that I was noticing her. She probably gets this from a lot of guys, and it gets insulting after a while. Being a very pretty woman keeps a lot of selfish people from being honest because they want to be with her for what they can get (noticed by others, status, etc.). Or so I hear. quote:
I would still notice her across the room and eventually she got to where she talks to me. I also have tried to talk to her. When I talk to her I do wonder if she is marriage material If you decide to use the deal breaker list above, it will help slow you down in looking for a potential wife, because it could take months to find out. quote:
Without calling me names, please tell me what is wrong with what I am doing. Be specific and tell me why. OK, 5 cent answer, meant in the kindest way: I think you are jumping the gun too fast, looking for a wife in every girl you see before knowing if they're worthy of becoming anyone's wife. There are probably 500,000 Christian single women on this planet, and you can't do this to every one of them. So start taking your time, make friends and treating them like your sisters, and just watch. And pray like crazy, as God has promised to meet your needs. Remember God brought Eve TO Adam; he practically tripped over her because she was in his neighborhood and right in front of his face apparently. He knows what you need because He made you to have those needs. Rest in Him and get on with the next five minutes of your life. And five minutes after that. I hope this has helped. You might want to consider courting instead of dating ("I Kissed Dating Goodbye" by Josh Harris is a great book on this); I would have courted as a single had I known about it. As it was, our dating was always in public and under the eye of our parents' approval. Eveyone who knew us gave us a thumb's up. We're going on 21 years of marriage now, by God's grace! One thing that helped me as a single (and I'm not sure this is something you need to know, but it can't hurt) was to understand that sex isn't just intercourse, but is a dance that has intercourse as the last step. Sex starts with mutual eye contact, and goes up step-wise. A smile. Talking. Touching a shoulder. A side hug. Touching hands. A full hug. A kiss. And somewhere in here a person has to decide what belongs in engagement, and certainly the last steps (that I haven't mentioned, for delicacy sake) belong only in marriage. Now we can't be around people and not look at them, and it's polite to talk. But we each have to police ourselves in how we come across and how we act, discerning our own motives and guarding our hearts. We can look and talk without it being the start of a dance. God bless you, brother, and may He meet all your needs in Himself as He has promised, and bring you a truly good wife in His perfect timing. I think you're going to do well!
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RE: How do you know if you are flirting/stringing someo... - 11/17/2008 12:33:11 PM
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RE: How do you know if you are flirting/stringing someo... - 11/17/2008 12:39:23 PM
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Wills, from what you described, I do not really consider that "flirting" or "leading them on." However, there are always going to be women--and men--who interpret any favorable attention (read: saying "hello") as "leading them on." There are a lot of desperate people in the world, and they are always going to be hurt regardless of your actions. My best advice to you is to be the same to every woman you meet, regardless of whether or not you find them particularly attractive (because first impressions are not worth a whole lot--trust me in this) and see what God works out.
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RE: How do you know if you are flirting/stringing someo... - 11/17/2008 6:24:59 PM
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ORIGINAL: deermousie I think you are jumping the gun too fast, looking for a wife in every girl you see before knowing if they're worthy of becoming anyone's wife. ............................ You might want to consider courting instead of dating ("I Kissed Dating Goodbye" by Josh Harris is a great book on this); Thank you for the encouraging words and I wanted to say thank you to the others who said the encouraging words. I really do appreciate them. I feel kinda bad- vomitting out my girl probs on this forum. But it has also made me realize how much I need to be considering the feelings of others, which is not what my friendships/dating/relationships are always about. Yeah, I guess to be honest, I really really want to find a wife and have wanted to for awhile. Its hard to wonder if I am being fickle and picky because I "talk" to all these girls and it doesn't go anywhere. I finally just thought "Why not continue talking and talk to whoever I want" But I thought I would throw that idea out here on the forum. Maybe I do need to learn to wait better and relax. It's just when I see a girl who could be it (which is just about every single girl who walks in my path - no exaggeration) I become intent on finding out if they are it. I probably need to learn to wait on Him, live life, and have fun - maybe easier said than done. I liked some of Josh Harris' stuff. I read parts of the Kiss book and then part of a book he wrote after it about courting. I might try reading it again. To be honest he did annoy me some but he had some good points.
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RE: How do you know if you are flirting/stringing someo... - 11/17/2008 6:26:20 PM
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ORIGINAL: Ps103 first impressions are not worth a whole lot--trust me in this) and see what God works out. Great advice. I will remember that.
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RE: How do you know if you are flirting/stringing someo... - 11/17/2008 7:17:42 PM
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ORIGINAL: willfs Maybe I do need to learn to wait better and relax. It's just when I see a girl who could be it (which is just about every single girl who walks in my path - no exaggeration) I become intent on finding out if they are it. I probably need to learn to wait on Him, live life, and have fun - maybe easier said than done. quote:
ORIGINAL: willfs quote:
ORIGINAL: Ps103 first impressions are not worth a whole lot--trust me in this) and see what God works out. Great advice. I will remember that. Chances are, when you do meet her, you wont hear music or the two of you levitate toward each other from opposite sides of the room. Chances are you wont realize for quite some time, love is rarely instant. The real qualities I'm sure you want (whether you even know it or not) are not going to be evident in a person the first time you meet, in your first conversation...probably not in the first dozen conversations. I remember the very first time I saw dh. So I guess it made an impression and I'd love to be able to say it was "love at first sight" and I knew right away. But I had a blind date the very next night and actually started dating that guy for the next several months. At the time (maybe even now), the other guy made more sense and seemed more "right" for me in a lot of ways. Over the next couple months I found out he was really pretty boring and way too serious...things it took time to figure out. So, in the mean time, I'd been getting to know dh on a very casual basis and, when the other guy failed to show to help me with something, my sweet dh swooped right in to save the day...and we've been just about inseperable the 15 years since. If I'd blown him off and gotten serious about the blind date guy right away, who knows where I'd be now! ...Now that I think about it, it was probably because I jumped into a premature and artificial "relationship" with the other guy that it didn't work - but that was probably the perfect distraction from dh that allowed he and I to get to know each other on a more relaxed, genuine basis without any silly dating-angst. Just a thought.
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RE: How do you know if you are flirting/stringing someo... - 11/17/2008 8:20:49 PM
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You're welcome, Willfs. I liked the story from Csl; I'll give you mine, too: I was still single and in my 30s when I met my future husband. I was getting a professional degree because I had given up on getting married and needed to support myself better (my mother was dismayed), and decided I could afford some social life between classes. My church's singles group was having a square dance and I called a guy about a ticket. His roommate answered and took my info and said he'd have the ticket-holder call me. Then I asked who he was (because I knew nearly all the Christian singles in several related churches) and found out he was a biology teacher. I was working on becoming one, so we talked for an hour. We had tons of things in common. A week later he called me, we talked, and then he asked me out. I said yes, if he could wait five weeks while I finished my training (I figured a jerk guy wouldn't want to wait and I was so tired of jerks). He said fine. So five weeks later he took me hiking (and I finally found out what he looked like - he was OK, but my mother realized he was male and breathing and she was hooked ). We had a nice time chasing lizards and analysing stream-bottom dwellers (did I mention we were biologists?). He had figured he wanted to marry a 22 year old blonde cheerleader and I was none of those, so we were able to just be friends, and enjoyed a relaxing time dating...until he realized we were a great match. I went through the deal breaker list, and he came out smelling like a rose on all five points. He's glad now he didn't insist on the 22 year old blonde cheerleader, but our daughter almost fits that description - how funny is that?
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