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RE: Can Satan heal? - 11/13/2008 3:10:46 PM
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bravjim
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Is he able to heal. Yes, I think that he might be able to, and would do so if it served His purpose. Getting people to believe in a lie would serve as a motivation for him to do so. His war is more against God than us, and his aim is to get us off of the path of glorifying God.
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RE: Can Satan heal? - 11/13/2008 3:22:43 PM
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If Satan can take away health (cf. Job), why can't he add to it?
Agreed.
However, the sensible counter-arguement might be... "It is easier to destroy than to build. I can destroy a glass window with a sledge-hammer, but that doesn't mean I can build a glass window."
I could easily be swayed if someone can show specific scripture telling us that Satan cannot heal, but currently, I believe he probably can.
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RE: Can Satan heal? - 11/13/2008 3:39:20 PM
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TorchHeart
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I think it all depends on how you view "healing."
Can the devil heal us, physically or maybe even mentally/emotionally? I would have to agree most of the above posters and say that he probably can. Bravjim makes a good point... if it would serve as a method for making someone else believe a lie and surrender to him rather than to God, I think its something that he could do.
The trick is, however, I would be lead to believe that the devil's "healing" is going to be far from what God's true version of healing would be. The devil's healing would:
1) not serve to eventually glorify God (obviously)
2) be imperfect (i.e.: you're not completely healed because Satan, while he does have controll over this fallen world, is not God and thus is not perfect like God. Therefore its reasonable to believe that Satan cannot do anything "perfectly" as God can. Plus, why would he want it to be perfect, if his overall goal is to see us suffer as he drives us further and further away from God).
So my point is that the devil can "heal" but only to a certain extent, as his power (and for that matter, motivations) are not equal to God's. Maybe its more fair to say that he can "pseudo-heal."
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RE: Can Satan heal? - 11/13/2008 5:39:07 PM
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Cherie
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John 10:10 says:
"The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I have come that they may have life, and have it to the full."
Jesus is the One Who has come so that we may have life.
I'd have to do a deeper Bible study on it for myself, yet Satan being able to 'heal' seems like it would be against his very nature.
At the same time, he is the deceiver; like a previous poster mentioned, see if the end result causes people to turn to or away from Christ, as well as if it causes one to have the peace of God as a result. God is not the author of confusion, so I think the end result (based on the Bible) should be evaluated in light of those things.
While we are not called to check our brains at the door, it's important to make sure our beliefs are rooted in Scripture, with guidance from the Holy Spirit.
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RE: Can Satan heal? - 11/13/2008 5:58:44 PM
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Actually DerWeg, this is the BEST question I have seen yet placed on any message board. It is a practical question of faith, belief and how to apply that to a present situation.
Yes, I believe that it is very possible for satan to deceive people this way and you answered it best yourself when you said........... quote:
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this is Satan healing them, so that they'll keep astray from the truth
And you evidently also know how to help them...
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And will just have to pray as hard as I can for them.
You are spot on my friend.
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RE: Can Satan heal? - 11/13/2008 6:08:43 PM
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Satan and the demonic can perform false signs and wonders. Such which are seen used by popular false prophets and false teachers.. as seen in Counterfeit Revivals such as Lakeland/Todd Bentley.
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RE: Can Satan heal? - 11/14/2008 11:11:52 AM
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I don't know why God would heal in a family that doesn't truly believe in him, but I think its possible. Saying Satan can heal seems very twisted to me. On the other hand, I understand your desire to figure out what is going on with your family. Is there a way that the miracles that happened could point them to the truth? That Jesus died and rose again as The Miracle of all Time. Of course, they'd need to recognize that there was need due to their (our) sinful nature. But perhaps you could use it to point them to the truth.
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RE: Can Satan heal? - 11/14/2008 11:35:04 AM
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TorchHeart
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I don't know why God would heal in a family that doesn't truly believe in him, but I think its possible.
Because such an act could serve to bring said family (or at least part of it) to believe in Him. God doesn't always work miracles just to reaffirm the belief in Him to those who already believe, but also to reveal Himself to those who do not currently believe in Him.
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RE: Can Satan heal? - 11/14/2008 12:59:58 PM
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As I see it, they think it is they who heal themselves and even God does not get much of the credit for it.You would have to remember that God could possibly heal evil men as a sign of His grace, the fact that they will not turn from their ways is their fault. Nevertheless,as God knows this, perhaps He would not do it knowing it would only add to their comdemnation. Scripture also says that if such miracles had been performed in Sodom and Gormorrah they would have repented.
You could also say any blessing given by God to evil men will only entrench them in their sins for they believe God has honoured their beliefs. In the end, even wicked men have the power to heal one another and they will not.
It is best to say healing is nothing if you have not the love of God for what does it matter that you can raise others from the dead if you yourself neither know or love God?
Matthew 7:21-29
21 "Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?' 23 Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!'
For those who claim great healings I say now go sell all you have and give the money to the poor for to whom much is given much is required. If they do not, the blessing has become a curse.
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RE: Can Satan heal? - 11/14/2008 3:44:32 PM
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Satan and the demonic can perform false signs and wonders. Such which are seen used by popular false prophets and false teachers.. as seen in Counterfeit Revivals such as Lakeland/Todd Bentley.
I'm glad somebody finally said that.
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RE: Can Satan heal? - 11/15/2008 12:46:38 AM
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Satan- Father of Lies
James- every good and pefect gift comes from who?
I knew there was a simple answer.
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RE: Can Satan heal? - 11/15/2008 3:40:50 AM
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What kind of healing are we talking about here? Everyone is commenting without fully understanding what these "healings" are, and without knowing for sure what you mean by "unbelievable physical healing", how can this question be answered with certainty and from an intellectual standpoint?
Plus, you say they do give Jesus and God credit for the healing, so what's the problem? I mean, does anyone here fully understand Christian Science? They believe healing is possible through prayer to Jesus... so again, what's the problem?
Final note, no one on Earth would know whether Satan can heal or not anyways. It's just speculation or opinion... but if that's all you wanted, then why would it be Satan in this case, because they are praying for healing from the same God you believe in the first place.
Maybe you guys should research Christian Science before you determine "Satan did it".
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RE: Can Satan heal? - 11/16/2008 9:54:30 AM
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In my humble opinion, satan cannot heal, but GOD in His wonderful mercy, can extend their time over and over to bring them to Him.
God is amazing.
Depends on the situation. Are they PRAYING to satan to be healed, or does the healing just 'happen' by God's grace?
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Keep praying. God will use your prayers somehow, no matter what.
God bless ya,
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RE: Can Satan heal? - 11/18/2008 1:25:53 PM
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It is written that God shows mercy on whom he pleases. So he can heal whomever, its his choice and even though we feel they dont deserve it. Jesus healed the sick, the blind and etc, not all believed in him,but because of his works many believed. The devil cannot heal nor does he have the power to. God controls al things heaven and earth. His job is to kill, steal and destroy.
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RE: Can Satan heal? - 11/18/2008 2:02:05 PM
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Mat 24:24 Mar 13:22 For false christs and false prophets will arise and perform great signs and wonders, so as to lead astray, if possible, even the elect.
2Th 2:9 The coming of the lawless one is by the activity of Satan with all power and false signs and wonders,
Since Jesus was attested by "signs and wonders" (Acts 2.22) which included a LOT of healings, it seems clear from these verses that the evil one also does healings to lead people away from the gospel.
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RE: Can Satan heal? - 11/18/2008 5:57:54 PM
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I think the Bible makes it clear that the devil can heal. He has great power. Afterall, when the antichrist comes into the world, there will also be a false prophet who will trick many into worshiping the antichrist by performing mircles and wonders. Here are a few passages from the NIV Bible:
2 Thessalonians 2:9 states that "The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with the work of Satan displayed in all kinds of counterfeit miracles, signs and wonders"
Matthew 24:24 and Mark 13:22 both state that "For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and miracles to deceive even the elect—if that were possible."
Don't be fooled into believing that just because something is a mircle it's from God. That's what the satan counting on. He hopes fool everyone who believes that he can't do it.
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