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RE: Why in heavens name is Obama wanting to bring Gitmo... - 11/21/2008 11:36:03 AM   
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Bush appointed judge rules to free five GITMO detainees.

Leon said the five Algerians already have been improperly held for seven years and deserve to go home. He said an appeal could delay their release for up to another two years.Leon was appointed by President George W. Bush and has been sympathetic to the argument that the president has broad authority during wartime. In 2005, Leon ruled that this same group of detainees had no right to challenge their detention in civilian courts.

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RE: Why in heavens name is Obama wanting to bring Gitmo... - 11/21/2008 11:49:31 AM   
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Bush appointed judge rules to free five GITMO detainees.


Liberal Islamo-Fascist judges. I wonder what Politburo Punk made him a judge?

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RE: Why in heavens name is Obama wanting to bring Gitmo... - 11/22/2008 4:39:02 PM   
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You know, those in the military learn to de-humanize the enemy. My husband has told me that. Along with fear and panic are not your friends. I am a Christian and pray for the ememy. Does this make me want to embrace them on US Soil? No, I want to ask those that want to free them. Where do you want them? do you really trust them here upclose and personal? Maybe a different alternitive could, or should be worked out. I do not know, but neither do any of you. Do any of you know what has happened to those rleased, or been given a trial? I do not think it it is very pretty. One suicide bombing the day or so after, one not wanting the trial.These are crazy folk mixed with evil, mixed with false fanatical religon. So maybe they will look for host families if they are brought over are you willing? If not then I say quit complaing about Gitmo. Who says an enemy combatant deserves a trail anyway? They stay captive as long as we as long are in war. I do not remember trials in past wars. The combatants are held until the war is over. There maybe a solution we could exchange prisoners for Osama Bin Laden.
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Bush appointed judge rules to free five GITMO detainees.


Liberal Islamo-Fascist judges. I wonder what Politburo Punk made him a judge?


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RE: Why in heavens name is Obama wanting to bring Gitmo... - 11/24/2008 9:42:50 AM   
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You know, those in the military learn to de-humanize the enemy. My husband has told me that. Along with fear and panic are not your friends. I am a Christian and pray for the ememy. Does this make me want to embrace them on US Soil? No, I want to ask those that want to free them. Where do you want them? do you really trust them here upclose and personal? Maybe a different alternitive could, or should be worked out. I do not know, but neither do any of you. Do any of you know what has happened to those rleased, or been given a trial? I do not think it it is very pretty. One suicide bombing the day or so after, one not wanting the trial.These are crazy folk mixed with evil, mixed with false fanatical religon. So maybe they will look for host families if they are brought over are you willing? If not then I say quit complaing about Gitmo. Who says an enemy combatant deserves a trail anyway? They stay captive as long as we as long are in war. I do not remember trials in past wars. The combatants are held until the war is over. There maybe a solution we could exchange prisoners for Osama Bin Laden.
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Bush appointed judge rules to free five GITMO detainees.


Liberal Islamo-Fascist judges. I wonder what Politburo Punk made him a judge?


Actually, we have not declared war on anybody. Therefore, how will we know when the "war" is over. Even General Petraeus (speaking about Afghanistan) noted that reconciliation- with the Taliban- is the only way (to end the conflict there).

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RE: Why in heavens name is Obama wanting to bring Gitmo... - 11/24/2008 11:38:40 AM   
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Eric Holder's (Obama's choice for Attorney General) opinion of the detainees in Gitmo

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122731301791449521.html?mod=djemEditorialPage
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RE: Why in heavens name is Obama wanting to bring Gitmo... - 11/24/2008 12:19:44 PM   
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Eric Holder's (Obama's choice for Attorney General) opinion of the detainees in Gitmo

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122731301791449521.html?mod=djemEditorialPage


The quote was in 2002. I'd be more interested in what he thinks today. I'd like to know what they (detainees) are rather than what they are not.

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RE: Why in heavens name is Obama wanting to bring Gitmo... - 12/1/2008 9:57:20 AM   
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Bin Laden's taxi driver released from Gitmo to serve out his sentence in Yemen.


The Department of Defense announced today the transfer of Salim Hamdan from Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, to Yemen. On Aug. 6, 2008, Hamdan was convicted of material support to terrorism at trial by military commission. A military panel of six officers found Hamdan guilty of charges that included service as a Bin Laden bodyguard in Afghanistan both before and after the attacks of Sept. 11. As part of a transfer agreement with the United States, the remainder of Hamdan’s sentence will be served in Yemen. Hamdan was sentenced to 5 ½ years in prison, with 5 years and one month credited for pre-trial confinement. The sentence will end on Dec. 27, 2008.

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RE: Why in heavens name is Obama wanting to bring Gitmo... - 12/3/2008 4:32:34 PM   
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Not directly about Gitmo, but this Washington Post story was written by an Air Force interrogator in Iraq, discussing the reasons he does not support the use of the tactics used at Guantanamo Bay (and also in Iraq):

"Torture and abuse are against my moral fabric. The cliche still bears repeating: Such outrages are inconsistent with American principles. And then there's the pragmatic side: Torture and abuse cost American lives."

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RE: Why in heavens name is Obama wanting to bring Gitmo... - 12/3/2008 7:37:00 PM   
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I don't think Obama will treat the situation much differently than McCain would have if he was elected.


Exactly.

As John McCain would say, it's a matter of restoring America's honor in the world.

Who would have thought the USA would lock people up for years without formally charging them?
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RE: Why in heavens name is Obama wanting to bring Gitmo... - 12/4/2008 4:29:55 PM   
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Not directly about Gitmo, but this Washington Post story was written by an Air Force interrogator in Iraq, discussing the reasons he does not support the use of the tactics used at Guantanamo Bay (and also in Iraq):

"Torture and abuse are against my moral fabric. The cliche still bears repeating: Such outrages are inconsistent with American principles. And then there's the pragmatic side: Torture and abuse cost American lives."


The Iraq War posters should check out the article.

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RE: Why in heavens name is Obama wanting to bring Gitmo... - 12/10/2008 9:54:57 AM   
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Latest modification in interrogation techniques.

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