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RE: Is Sarah Palin too far right for mainstream America? - 9/7/2008 2:13:06 PM
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SovereignIsHe
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Thats alot of America. I saw a poll the other day that had 92% of Americans believe in God.
And most who believe in God knows his word to be correct and the one to follow. So therefore they would not support what Obama supports. Lots of us believe in God but don't support Sarah Palin's extreme conservative views. Yes, I consider most of her view outside the mainstream, especially on abortion, teaching creationism, abstinence ONLY sex ed and global warming.
heh... God's word regarding the creation of the world is an extreme view... As well His thoughts on fornication and murder...
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RE: Is Sarah Palin too far right for mainstream America? - 9/7/2008 2:16:39 PM
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So you believe in God but ignore what His word might have to say on certain issues in an election year.
How convenient....
Some here believe that how one votes regardless of the supported agenda is outside the jurisdiction of God...
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RE: Is Sarah Palin too far right for mainstream America? - 9/7/2008 3:07:48 PM
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out-of-touch with mainstream America.
Well, growing up in a dictatorship militar nation I sure woul never ever want that again! The censorship that goes on monitor everything as fear of "comunists and captalists are comming to take over". Even when you are a kid in a militar family you are told to be careful and not express thi or that, people go to jail and just disapear. Plus when a nation do hve an official church going on it can become "strange" at least the mixt of both like that.
Nations that experienced that and became democracies are learning that, I left my original country when democracy was a baby. What I have learn is to reject any extremism and dictatorship. The best thing happens in my life was to be born again. What I do know is that is very much unfortunatly the way politics and religion play in the USA. Particularly with parties carrying themselves the way they do. As at least 50% of US dont know God and the Bible to me is really not the place of christians to impose themselves in a political party and wanting all to behave like the Book...is the Holy Spirit who convince persons and the Lord do not use a party to to Holy Spirit job.
God calls people blind, lost without Him, is deeper than out of touch, already senteced before Him. He does call and keep calling us to repent come to Him, not to membership party people of Him are pointing to Jesus and nothing else. Even if Democrat become Republican and not abort or have gay life style they are not save, because good people do not go to haven but redeemed ones goes because Lord Jesus.
I do not thinking we need to impose the Lord, He is very attractive and lovely and His ways just so awesome that we agree with what He tells about our condition and awful ways whe we come to Him we trully star to really see what we could not before.Yep, is incredible the ways He does and operates!
ops..sorry I keep writing.. but the individual have to know Him to "get it" and keep knowing Him is a life process and walking! Than no party can impose God and His ways to the mainstreem ones, God is the one who convinces.
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RE: Is Sarah Palin too far right for mainstream America? - 9/7/2008 5:21:00 PM
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The facts appear to be the Palin has helped the McCain campaign, and that personally Palin is more popular than either Obama or McCain - so it would appear however Americans line up with her views, they like her personally - and I am guessing that is because in terms of life experience, she is the most like an average American.
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RE: Is Sarah Palin too far right for mainstream America? - 9/7/2008 6:23:51 PM
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The facts appear to be the Palin has helped the McCain campaign, and that personally Palin is more popular than either Obama or McCain - so it would appear however Americans line up with her views, they like her personally - and I am guessing that is because in terms of life experience, she is the most like an average American.
If so, this is not very good news for McCain - Palin easily upstaged him by a mile during the RNC convention. The difference in energy level between last Wednesday and Thursday was more than obvious.
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RE: Is Sarah Palin too far right for mainstream America? - 9/7/2008 6:31:41 PM
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Actually,more people watched McCain on Thursday than any candidate. And his poll numbers are up, so she certainly isn't hurting him.
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RE: Is Sarah Palin too far right for mainstream America? - 9/7/2008 6:36:44 PM
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Actually,more people watched McCain on Thursday than any candidate. And his poll numbers are up, so she certainly isn't hurting him.
From a personal stance, I liked McCain's speech - esp the part about his experiences as a POW. It was very inspiring.
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Actually,more people watched McCain on Thursday than any candidate. And his poll numbers are up, so she certainly isn't hurting him.
The national polling is becoming less and less relevant (no matter who the numbers benefit); it's all coming down to the battleground states now, and judging from the numbers I saw this morning, McCain has a lead by the narrowest of margins.
In one Ohio poll I saw, McCain is leading Obama by less than one percentage point (0.8), and in a statistical tie on a few others.
McCain is also trailing Obama in PA and MI, and a bit ahead of him in VA.
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RE: Is Sarah Palin too far right for mainstream America? - 9/7/2008 7:25:07 PM
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The polling that will come out tomorrow will reflect the 3 day rolling averages after the RNC conventjions; they should be interesting.
I see things about as they were two weeks ago with McCain being a little closer to Obama.
Should be an interesting two months.
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RE: Is Sarah Palin too far right for mainstream America? - 9/7/2008 7:30:17 PM
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relady
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So you believe in God but ignore what His word might have to say on certain issues in an election year. Not that you'll care or listen, but I don't ignore God at all. Just because I don't see political issues the same as you doesn't mean I "ignore" or "hate" God.
Yall just CAN'T keep from making it personal. It's like you really just can't help yourselves, LOL, from being hurtful and nasty.
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RE: Is Sarah Palin too far right for mainstream America? - 9/7/2008 8:16:44 PM
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Well, growing up in a dictatorship militar nation I sure woul never ever want that again! The censorship that goes on monitor everything as fear of "comunists and captalists are comming to take over". Even when you are a kid in a militar family you are told to be careful and not express thi or that, people go to jail and just disapear. Plus when a nation do hve an official church going on it can become "strange" at least the mixt of both like that.
Nations that experienced that and became democracies are learning that, I left my original country when democracy was a baby. What I have learn is to reject any extremism and dictatorship. The best thing happens in my life was to be born again. What I do know is that is very much unfortunatly the way politics and religion play in the USA. Particularly with parties carrying themselves the way they do. As at least 50% of US dont know God and the Bible to me is really not the place of christians to impose themselves in a political party and wanting all to behave like the Book...is the Holy Spirit who convince persons and the Lord do not use a party to to Holy Spirit job.
Adriana:
I appreciate your comments. Its important for Americans to hear from someone like you who has grown up in a dictatorship with an official state church. Also, thanks for reminding us of what happens when nationalism gets mixed with faith and you get an official state church (which many American evangelical/fundamental and conservative Catholics aspire to turn their churches into ).
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RE: Is Sarah Palin too far right for mainstream America? - 9/7/2008 8:31:33 PM
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I've heard people say Obama is too liberal for America. But what about Palin? Is she too far the other way, too conservative, for mainstream America?
She is against abortion, even in the cases incest and rape. Asked what she'd do if he teenage daughter was raped and became pregnant, she said she'd "choose life". She supports abstinence-only sex education in schools. She wants to teach creationism in public schools. She is a strong supporter of capital punishment. She is very pro-gun. She doesn't believe in global warming. etc.
All of this is very out-of-touch with mainstream America. You have to admit she is very far right. Is she too extreme for mainstream America?
I think many of these positions show that she really hasn't had to debate the standard right-wing policies against anybody with some scientific expertise. I agree with her position on abortion, as right-wing as it is. However, her positions on creationism, global warming, and from what I understand about the issue, sex ed would get absolutely shredded by anybody with experience in those fields. Being the mayor of a small town and briefly the governor of a very lightly populated state, she likely hasn't had to contend with these issues on any real level. If she winds up in the white house, I don't see federal science policy improving at all over Bush's already terrible record.
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RE: Is Sarah Palin too far right for mainstream America? - 9/7/2008 8:43:57 PM
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She cannot be that far out of the mainstream.
IMO, on abortion rights, Palin is unquestionably far-right, and her position on the issue will do little to draw in moderates - if anything, it will repel them to Obama's side.
RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT as if Obama isn't the far left when it comes to having babies killed or letting them die after botched abortions. By the way Todd what is your position on botched abortions, are you brave enought to say it on here? Do you agree with Obama on this? Do you even know what his position is after 19 months of campaining or do you need to go google it right now?
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We don't know nearly enough about her yet to answer that question. She hasn't given us much information on her position on issues of national importance. She hasn't made any policy speeches since she became VP nominee, hasn't given interviews.
Which is something that Palin cannot afford to do for long (e.g. giving the same stump speeches while hiding from the national media).
Plus, why are McCain's people even hesitant for Palin to discuss her basic policy positions - this, outside of probing her knowledge of issues like foreign affairs?
Its pretty obvious from her speakings at her church and other places what her position on this is. You mean you really don't know?
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RE: Is Sarah Palin too far right for mainstream America? - 9/7/2008 8:49:46 PM
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Jhud
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The national polling is becoming less and less relevant (no matter who the numbers benefit); it's all coming down to the battleground states now, and judging from the numbers I saw this morning, McCain has a lead by the narrowest of margins.
In one Ohio poll I saw, McCain is leading Obama by less than one percentage point (0.8), and in a statistical tie on a few others.
McCain is also trailing Obama in PA and MI, and a bit ahead of him in VA.
Well, again, Palin doesn't seem tobe hurting him in battleground states either; of course this will become more evident as time goes on.
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RE: Is Sarah Palin too far right for mainstream America? - 9/7/2008 8:55:21 PM
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Any morning now, I expect to be awakened from my slumber by an echoing, nationwide refrain of "OH NO!!!"
I will sit up, note the date that all the liberals figured out that Obama is not actually running against Palin and that all their comparisons between the two regarding experience and stance are moot, and then go back to sleep.
It will be a good day.
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