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RE: If Hillary was the nominee, would McCain have chose... - 9/7/2008 10:02:48 AM   
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Just wondering.

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Its not hard to guess where you are going with this...and the answer is no. He wouldnt have.

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RE: If Hillary was the nominee, would McCain have chose... - 9/7/2008 10:02:52 AM   
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Just wondering.

- Julius


There is no way anyone can know what the dynamics of the election would have been. We only know what is reality. There is way too much conjecture while people disregard what is. This is just another way to attempt to inject racism, sexism, etc. into the mix. It is wrong.

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RE: If Hillary was the nominee, would McCain have chose... - 9/7/2008 2:49:10 PM   
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What you got this year will be deducted from your return next year. If it results in a negative payout, you will reimburse the government. It isn't a tax cut at all. It is a payment against future gains. It was meant to help the economy, not provide free money. We will all be accountable for what we received.


That is incorrect. This is from the IRS web site:

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What is it? It's an economic stimulus payment that more than 124 million households will receive. It's not taxable, and it won't reduce your 2007 or 2008 refund or increase the amount you owe when you file your 2008 return. Payments started in May and will continue through the end of 2008.


http://www.irs.gov/newsroom/article/0,,id=179211,00.html

The final form of the bill this was just free money for anyone who made over 3k a year from working, Social Security or Retirement. It has nothing to do with your taxes other than you must either work and file a return, be a spouse of someone and filing a joint return or get some kind of qualifying pension type money.

Under Clinton the child tax cut was a cut and it couldn't get you more money back then you paid. Bush and the Republicans made this a credit and Bush fought tooth and nail to make this permanent. All that happens is it comes up for vote at election time and no one is dumb enough to turn the tap off on a great big windfall of money for so many voters so they add little extensions to it instead. I think this is absurd and it means several thousand dollars a year for me at tax time but hey- if a Republican wants to give away free money to millions of people who didn't earn it and I'm getting a big fat piece of it they can call it whatever they want. ; ) It is not however a tax cut.

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RE: If Hillary was the nominee, would McCain have chose... - 9/7/2008 6:32:42 PM   
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My answer would be no, primarily because, who would he choose?


Agreed. I think Lieberman would have been McCain's man. As is, he very nearly was before McCain's advisors talked him into choosing Palin at the last minute.

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RE: If Hillary was the nominee, would McCain have chose... - 9/7/2008 7:34:20 PM   
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My answer would be no, primarily because, who would he choose?


Agreed. I think Lieberman would have been McCain's man. As is, he very nearly was before McCain's advisors talked him into choosing Palin at the last minute.


Liberman might have been good for national security, but McCain is fine in that are. Liberman would have been a dud with the base because of his abortion stance.

McCain will give it about a month or so and then say that he will appoint Liberman as Sec. of State. That will pull in the Jewish vote a lot of moderates and will not bother the pro-life base.

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RE: If Hillary was the nominee, would McCain have chose... - 9/7/2008 7:36:27 PM   
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My answer would be no, primarily because, who would he choose?


Agreed. I think Lieberman would have been McCain's man. As is, he very nearly was before McCain's advisors talked him into choosing Palin at the last minute.


Liberman might have been good for national security, but McCain is fine in that are. Liberman would have been a dud with the base because of his abortion stance.

McCain will give it about a month or so and then say that he will appoint Liberman as Sec. of State. That will pull in the Jewish vote a lot of moderates and will not bother the pro-life base.

Thanks
RC


Mr. Obama's stance on abortion is such that McCain could have probably got even Mr. Liberman past the right wing base of the Republican Party as the VP...

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RE: If Hillary was the nominee, would McCain have chose... - 9/7/2008 8:07:07 PM   
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Probably. I don't think he saw anything in Palin except breasts. He wanted the non-partisan feminists who voted for Hillary to vote for Palin. Because being an older man he still thinks women have smaller brains than men and would be easily manipulated into voting for a strong conservative when the supported a strong liberal in the primaries. Not he case unfortunately for McCain.

Honestly George, straight answer please: since the OVERWHELMING MAJORITY of black voters voted for Obama, do they have smaller brains too?

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RE: If Hillary was the nominee, would McCain have chose... - 9/7/2008 8:42:37 PM   
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Back to the question.

My answer would be no, primarily because, who would he choose? There are none. Take out Powell and Rice, all you have left is J.C. Watts, who said he may vote for Obama, former Lt. Governor Michael Steele - maybe, and Alan Keyes (been there done that). All of the above would smell strongly of tokenism.

- Julius

What about Michael Steele? Well, some do not consider him black since some threw the symbolic oreo cookies (black on the outside, white on the inside) at him and also have called him an Uncle Tom. Michael Steele Youtube LINK

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RE: If Hillary was the nominee, would McCain have chose... - 9/7/2008 8:51:28 PM   
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If Hillary was the nominee I think McCain would've picked Jindall. He's not black but he's not white either.


Actually, I believe that from an anthropological/biological standpoint, east indians (maybe arabs, too, I forget) are grouped with caucasians. It has to do with similarities in bone structure, particularly in the face.

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