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_jjp_ -> You know you have the right candidate when... (9/6/2008 7:36:22 AM)
You know you have the right candidate when... The opposing side is throwing every tidbit at them hoping something sticks. The liberals look rather foolish lately.

Bob_George -> RE: You know you have the right candidate when... (9/6/2008 8:01:17 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: _jjp_ The opposing side is throwing every tidbit at them hoping something sticks. Like how conservatives brought up Jeremiah Wright, William Ayers, the flag lapel pin, going to a Muslim school as a kid, his middle name etc.

_jjp_ -> RE: You know you have the right candidate when... (9/6/2008 8:17:34 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bob_George quote: ORIGINAL: _jjp_ The opposing side is throwing every tidbit at them hoping something sticks. Like how conservatives brought up Jeremiah Wright, William Ayers, the flag lapel pin, going to a Muslim school as a kid, his middle name etc. The first two issues are in fact big issues, they show the character of the man who wants to be president. If BO would not like to be associated with racist pastors or domestic terrorists he probably shouldn't form long term relationships with them.

Bob_George -> RE: You know you have the right candidate when... (9/6/2008 8:22:07 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: _jjp_ The first two issues are in fact big issues, they show the character of the man who wants to be president. If BO would not like to be associated with racist pastors or domestic terrorists he probably shouldn't form long term relationships with them. I'm sorry, but the whole thing with Obama's associations and how conservatives somehow think that because Wright has said negative things about America that Obama thinks the same way and that because William Ayers tried to blow stuff up in the 60s that Obama is a terrorist, is desperate.

_jjp_ -> RE: You know you have the right candidate when... (9/6/2008 8:22:20 AM)
I am talking about those great tidbits like McCain has 7 houses ... ooh aah. Governor Palin's daughter is pregnant, how could she run a country?

Bob_George -> RE: You know you have the right candidate when... (9/6/2008 8:31:44 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: _jjp_ I am talking about those great tidbits like McCain has 7 houses ... ooh aah. Governor Palin's daughter is pregnant, how could she run a country? I don't think it is the fact that McCain has 7 houses but more his response to the question "how many houses do you own?". I don't know which of his answers were more ridiculous. "Eer...umm...I'll check with my staff" or "did I mention I was a POW?".

_jjp_ -> RE: You know you have the right candidate when... (9/6/2008 8:36:47 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bob_George quote: ORIGINAL: _jjp_ I am talking about those great tidbits like McCain has 7 houses ... ooh aah. Governor Palin's daughter is pregnant, how could she run a country? I don't think it is the fact that McCain has 7 houses but more his response to the question "how many houses do you own?". I don't know which of his answers were more ridiculous. "Eer...umm...I'll check with my staff" or "did I mention I was a POW?". go ask Barack where all his money is invested see if he can tell you. How many of those homes did his wife own before the marriage?

Bob_George -> RE: You know you have the right candidate when... (9/6/2008 9:02:10 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: _jjp_ quote: ORIGINAL: Bob_George quote: ORIGINAL: _jjp_ I am talking about those great tidbits like McCain has 7 houses ... ooh aah. Governor Palin's daughter is pregnant, how could she run a country? I don't think it is the fact that McCain has 7 houses but more his response to the question "how many houses do you own?". I don't know which of his answers were more ridiculous. "Eer...umm...I'll check with my staff" or "did I mention I was a POW?". go ask Barack where all his money is invested see if he can tell you. How many of those homes did his wife own before the marriage? Again, I think it's not the fact that he has 7 houses but that he's so out-of-touch he had to ask his staff how many houses he owns and also how he responded to Leno's question about how many houses he owns by reminding everyone he was a POW. I think it's his response to Leno that's probably more absurd.

stonek -> RE: You know you have the right candidate when... (9/6/2008 9:33:08 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bob_George quote: ORIGINAL: _jjp_ The first two issues are in fact big issues, they show the character of the man who wants to be president. If BO would not like to be associated with racist pastors or domestic terrorists he probably shouldn't form long term relationships with them. I'm sorry, but the whole thing with Obama's associations and how conservatives somehow think that because Wright has said negative things about America that Obama thinks the same way and that because William Ayers tried to blow stuff up in the 60s that Obama is a terrorist, is desperate. You mean a man of true American and Godly conviction would sit week after week in a church listening to man like Wright for 20 years totally disagreeing with him?

stonek -> RE: You know you have the right candidate when... (9/6/2008 9:38:53 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: _jjp_ I am talking about those great tidbits like McCain has 7 houses ... ooh aah. Governor Palin's daughter is pregnant, how could she run a country? There are alot of working class Americans who have mulitple houses too that they bought as investments. Palin can run our country and lead it as VP, because she holds the strong leadership qualities to do so.

saved9201 -> RE: You know you have the right candidate when... (9/6/2008 9:42:01 AM)
And some people wonder why I've gotten so sarcastic and cynical about this election. - Julius

stonek -> RE: You know you have the right candidate when... (9/6/2008 9:45:45 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: _jjp_ quote: ORIGINAL: Bob_George quote: ORIGINAL: _jjp_ The opposing side is throwing every tidbit at them hoping something sticks. Like how conservatives brought up Jeremiah Wright, William Ayers, the flag lapel pin, going to a Muslim school as a kid, his middle name etc. The first two issues are in fact big issues, they show the character of the man who wants to be president. If BO would not like to be associated with racist pastors or domestic terrorists he probably shouldn't form long term relationships with them. AMEN!!!

Bob_George -> RE: You know you have the right candidate when... (9/6/2008 9:45:45 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: stonek You mean a man of true American and Godly conviction would sit week after week in a church listening to man like Wright for 20 years totally disagreeing with him? Obama wasn't in church every week and when he was there he never heard Wright speak the way he did in the clips that came out during the election.

_jjp_ -> RE: You know you have the right candidate when... (9/6/2008 10:25:40 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bob_George Again, I think it's not the fact that he has 7 houses but that he's so out-of-touch he had to ask his staff how many houses he owns and also how he responded to Leno's question about how many houses he owns by reminding everyone he was a POW. I think it's his response to Leno that's probably more absurd. Do you think that maybe the leno comment was A JOKE. McCain actually has a sense of humor. If BO can't tell me every company that his money is invested in and how many shares of stock he has in each then i would appreciate it if he didn't try to use the same sort of thing against McCain.

_jjp_ -> RE: You know you have the right candidate when... (9/6/2008 10:26:58 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bob_George quote: ORIGINAL: stonek You mean a man of true American and Godly conviction would sit week after week in a church listening to man like Wright for 20 years totally disagreeing with him? Obama wasn't in church every week and when he was there he never heard Wright speak the way he did in the clips that came out during the election. HAHAHAHA ... that's a good one. He called the man his mentor, do you really think that he didn't know how Wright felt?

Bob_George -> RE: You know you have the right candidate when... (9/6/2008 10:28:21 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: _jjp_ Do you think that maybe the leno comment was A JOKE. McCain actually has a sense of humor. If BO can't tell me every company that his money is invested in and how many shares of stock he has in each then i would appreciate it if he didn't try to use the same sort of thing against McCain. You obviously haven't seen the clip. Leno was the one that made a joke. He said something about "how many houses do you have?" Then McCain got all serious and told his POW story, in a serious tone. There's no humour in what he said. Perhaps you should watch it. I think it's absurd to bring up the fact that he was a POW to dodge addressing the issue of how many houses he owns.

_jjp_ -> RE: You know you have the right candidate when... (9/6/2008 10:31:18 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bob_George quote: ORIGINAL: _jjp_ Do you think that maybe the leno comment was A JOKE. McCain actually has a sense of humor. If BO can't tell me every company that his money is invested in and how many shares of stock he has in each then i would appreciate it if he didn't try to use the same sort of thing against McCain. You obviously haven't seen the clip. Leno was the one that made a joke. He said something about "how many houses do you have?" Then McCain got all serious and told his POW story, in a serious tone. There's no humour in what he said. Perhaps you should watch it. I think it's absurd to bring up the fact that he was a POW to dodge addressing the issue of how many houses he owns. Yeah he should have just continued to give time to the complete non-issue of the houses. Whether you like it or not him being a POW was a defining point in this mans life.

Bob_George -> RE: You know you have the right candidate when... (9/6/2008 10:34:12 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: _jjp_ HAHAHAHA ... that's a good one. He called the man his mentor, do you really think that he didn't know how Wright felt? I don't think Wright truly felt that way. I think he was angry at a few things. He was angry because Obama was being treated very poorly by the media and he was angry or perhaps worried because Hillary had a good chance at taking the nomination away from Barack. But at the same time he was angry at Obama perhaps for abandoning his roots in Chicago as a man of the community. He very quickly came from that to becoming a presidential candidate. Maybe there was some anger over that. And you may think it's strange that he's angry at Obama for running for President but he's also angry at Hillary for lessening Obama's chance of becoming the nominee. But people are complicated. Not everyone is "straight" like conservatives. People have feeling and emotions and they think about things. So, during the primaries, he had a lot of anger. And he kind of vented it. From all accounts, he said some things that were very out of his character during the primaries.

_jjp_ -> RE: You know you have the right candidate when... (9/6/2008 10:36:26 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bob_George quote: ORIGINAL: _jjp_ HAHAHAHA ... that's a good one. He called the man his mentor, do you really think that he didn't know how Wright felt? I don't think Wright truly felt that way. I think he was angry at a few things. He was angry because Obama was being treated very poorly by the media and he was angry or perhaps worried because Hillary had a good chance at taking the nomination away from Barack. But at the same time he was angry at Obama perhaps for abandoning his roots in Chicago as a man of the community. He very quickly came from that to becoming a presidential candidate. Maybe there was some anger over that. And you may think it's strange that he's angry at Obama for running for President but he's also angry at Hillary for lessening Obama's chance of becoming the nominee. But people are complicated. Not everyone is "straight" like conservatives. People have feeling and emotions and they think about things. So, during the primaries, he had a lot of anger. And he kind of vented it. From all accounts, he said some things that were very out of his character during the primaries. If that is what makes you feel better then believe it.

Bob_George -> RE: You know you have the right candidate when... (9/6/2008 10:38:45 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: _jjp_ Yeah he should have just continued to give time to the complete non-issue of the houses. How about, "let's move on Jay". Not "did I mention I was a POW?". quote: ORIGINAL: _jjp_ Whether you like it or not him being a POW was a defining point in this mans life. Yes, I know. That's the point. Everybody knows. He doesn't need to bring it up all the time. He said himself a few years back that he doesn't like talking about it. Now he can't help himself. It's losing it's meaning. The more he and his Republican buddies talk about the less it really means. It's getting to point where people are like, "POW. So what?" It's not insensitive. I just think people are sick of hearing about it. Everybody acknowledge he went through a tough time. Why can't McCain and the GOP leave at that? Why do they have to keep bringing it up? When McCain talked about being a POW on the Tonight Show it was completely irrelevant and random.

tafkam -> RE: You know you have the right candidate when... (9/6/2008 10:41:56 AM)
quote: I don't know which of his answers were more ridiculous. "Eer...umm...I'll check with my staff" I'm sure that was a polite way of saying that the question was irrelevant and nobody's business.... quote: "did I mention I was a POW?". Yeah, like John Kerry didn't answer every question without commenting on his service in Vietnam....

rnershigh -> RE: You know you have the right candidate when... (9/6/2008 10:43:51 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: _jjp_ You know you have the right candidate when... The opposing side is throwing every tidbit at them hoping something sticks. The liberals look rather foolish lately. Yup. That's what I and others I have talked to think as well. [sm=dance.gif][:D]

Memaw. -> RE: You know you have the right candidate when... (9/6/2008 10:44:14 AM)
quote: From all accounts, he said some things that were very out of his character during the primaries. Luke 6:45 A good man out of the good treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is good; and an evil man out of the evil treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is evil: for of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaketh.

Bob_George -> RE: You know you have the right candidate when... (9/6/2008 10:57:35 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tafkam Yeah, like John Kerry didn't answer every question without commenting on his service in Vietnam.... And McCain criticised him for it. Now he's doing the exact same thing. FLIP-FLOP!

letusreason -> RE: You know you have the right candidate when... (9/6/2008 11:21:02 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bob_George quote: ORIGINAL: tafkam Yeah, like John Kerry didn't answer every question without commenting on his service in Vietnam.... And McCain criticised him for it. Now he's doing the exact same thing. FLIP-FLOP! um , Bob, don't you mean hypocrite? And also, McCain doesn't mention it, his supporting cast does. And are you calling his POW experience a "tough time"? Could you marginalize that anymore you think? Bob,,,,you ever even serve in the military?

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