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RE: How could a Christian support Mccain/Palin? - 9/9/2008 9:29:48 AM
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blue1914
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you know even a Democrat like myself would admit that McCain could never ruin our nation any worse than the way Cowboy W has. However, I believe that 4 more years of trickle down economics will wipe out the middle class. If our country has to be subjected to 12 years of Republican dictatorship, we will soon be like the Dominican Republic. Either filthy rich or Dirt poor, no middle class.
Sometimes the inanity of these posts is astounding.
Reagan gave us 8 years of prosperity following economic times much worse than the ones we are in right now. The economy is cyclical, and chances are if there is a modicum of international and domestic tranquility, then the economy will begin to grow and expand. providing we don't tax it to death. You may not like the idea of another Republican adminstration, but anyone who thinks it will turn us into the Dom. Rep. has no sense of history, or reality for that matter.
Those who laud Mr. Regan's economic policies never fail to amaze me. I rarely ever see them ask HOW Mr. Regan achieved his runaway economic success-and I'll tell, there are two big factors which worked in his favor:
1. Mr. Nixon's ending of the U.S. Gold standard and the Bretton Wood's accords in 1973. By no longer obligating the U.S. to back up it's currency with hard money, we were led to:
2. Mr. Regan's easy credit of the 1980's. That credit was not backed by anything so it could be made available to any "business" that was interested in getting their grimy paws on it. What did we see from that-stock market bubbles, S&L scandals, record consumer debt and finally, our situation today-a teetering house of cards that is one big "bubble pop" away from disaster.
To your point about economic growth-it's somewhat unlikely that without a NEW bubble (such as the tech bubble of the late 90's) we will see significant economic growth because the engine we have used to fuel growth for the last 20+ years (thanks again to Mr. Regan's legacy)-credit-is now tapped out. The best that we can really hope for is no further degradation of our house of cards. If that were not true, why do you think Warren Buffet and Peter Peterson would be spending their own money to fund a movie about the world situation? If the U.S. economy follows the course it's currently on, their billions will be worthless, and so far they haven't found a great place to park them the world over-it's in their vested interest to do all that they can to try to prop up the falling wall.
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RE: How could a Christian support Mccain/Palin? - 9/9/2008 9:36:36 AM
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That doesn't change the nature of your posts.
True! But isn't that great Jack, that even though you might think I'm an idiot for backing those " Immoral, baby killing, gay suporting, ect, ect. whinny, tree hugging, non- drilling, pot smoking Liberals.....you still have to share the KINGDOM of HEAVEN with me, LOL! Nothing personal Brother, I don't care if your a conservative, If your a born again believer thats good enough for me, I'll even let you chill on my side of the golden streets, LOL!
And lest we all forget, in this election, the conservative side is supporting a pot smoking CONSERVATIVE (Mrs. Palin) though it was legal when she did it.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/08/29/politics/politico/thecrypt/main4397109.shtml
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RE: How could a Christian support Mccain/Palin? - 9/9/2008 9:45:56 AM
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And liberals will be voting guy that did a "little blow" that is cocaine!
Let's admit that in their younger days they BOTH did things they should not have been doing just as many of us did things we should not have been doing.
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RE: How could a Christian support Mccain/Palin? - 9/9/2008 8:11:02 PM
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Please provide sources on this from a non-blog, non-biased source, such as the US government itself - surely if it cost us taxpayers this, he must bill it to the government, and there must be a record of it - please provide this. Also in this source, please provide what other congressmen charge to the government for their travel expenses.
Thank you in advance, Peace and God bless,
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First, Biden, I understand, takes the Acela each day, which, according to posted rates, costs TAXPAYERS 250.00 PER DAY between Washington, DC and Wilmington, Delaware. I don't know how many days he does this. But, each week costs YOU, I and the other taxpayers a total of $1,250 PER WEEK just for his commute.
If he had a home in the DC suburbs, he's actually have to pay for that himself and it would probably take him just as long to commute to work. I know that my commute is as long or longer than his (1 hour and 15 minutes) each day. And, the people of the United States don't pay my commuting costs!
The owners of plantations knew every slave or sharcropper that worked for them. So, what does the fact that Biden happens to know the train workers have to do with how he feels about them? How could he NOT know them, doing it every day.
I have NO idea why the fact that Biden rides an exclusively First Class train somehow makes him a man of the people???? Most likely, the only non-elite people on that train are the workers! It's bizarrely democrat in its logic.
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I joined the 'how many houses' arguement and I have 1 house; last time I checked Obama and Biden each have 1 as well.
I agree both John and Cindy McCain are very classy.
However, as I have said before, their lives are far removed from mine, and the fact that they think that people that complain about the current economy are whiners shows just how far removed they are.
Actually neither John nor Cindy McCain ever said people were whiners - and unless you are a millionairess, Obama's life isn't any closer. Probably the closest to me would be Sarah Palin.
I see - so you discount the fact that Obama worked his way from modest means to go to Harvard. You discount the fact that Biden came from middle class as well and to this day still takes the same train, and knows all the workers on this traing, to DC everyday.
I guess since they're Democrats, this just does not hold anything in these parts...that's pretty easy to see...
PS BTW, Though neither of the McCains publicly stated that we are whiners due to the ailing economy - McCain's advisor IS on the record for saying this. Ie, that is pretty much the sentiment of their campaign, else he/she would have been let go.
Peace and God bless,
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RE: How could a Christian support Mccain/Palin? - 9/10/2008 4:07:30 PM
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But i do think honestly that if he (Obama) was white she (Oprah) wouldnt give him a second glance. She has never ever voiced her opinion so strongly about a President before this election. Imagine that...?
Thessa, I'd never thought about that, but I do believe you're right. Could she be backing Obama just because he's black and not based on anything else?
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RE: How could a Christian support Mccain/Palin? - 9/10/2008 4:13:49 PM
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Psalm I strongly doubt that. Oprah Winfrey is a very shrewd businesswoman in her own right. Let us not forget, Dr. Phil mcGraw owes the larger part of his fame to this day to his being a consultant to Oprah over the beef issue in Texas.
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RE: How could a Christian support Mccain/Palin? - 9/10/2008 4:17:21 PM
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Psalm I strongly doubt that. Oprah Winfrey is a very shrewd businesswoman in her own right. Let us not forget, Dr. Phil mcGraw owes the larger part of his fame to this day to his being a consultant to Oprah over the beef issue in Texas.
Enlighten me rev. I don't understand what your statement has to do with my opinion that Oprah is backing Obama just because he's black. So, you think her support of Obama is a business move?
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RE: How could a Christian support Mccain/Palin? - 9/10/2008 4:19:29 PM
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you know even a Democrat like myself would admit that McCain could never ruin our nation any worse than the way Cowboy W has. However, I believe that 4 more years of trickle down economics will wipe out the middle class. If our country has to be subjected to 12 years of Republican dictatorship, we will soon be like the Dominican Republic. Either filthy rich or Dirt poor, no middle class.
newsflash....the "middle class" is NOT disappearing....it's a lie!
if you think it is....what evidence do you have?
of the numbers I see on the U.S. population website, the middle class HAS shrunk a bit....and,yet, so has the "class" below it....as, the numbers of people moving UP has increased significantly...(i being one of them).....
ruin our nation? why? because he believed in tax breaks for EVERYONE? instead of just pandering to a one segment of the population?
is socialism/marxism REALLY going to solve anything? except for making EVERYONE poor....and all the wealth for the government?.....that sounds American to me!
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RE: How could a Christian support Mccain/Palin? - 9/10/2008 4:25:10 PM
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The people of this nation, our society, used to have two authorities the government and the Church.. both under God. These days the government has made itself autonomous, no longer under God and the Church is tolerated as long as it stays out of the public arena. The Church is well on it's way to becoming like the Indian nations. Allowed to exist as long as it stays on the reservation. The government has assumed the role of the All-Mighty and it cannot bear the mantle. J
Very, very well said!!! APPLAUSE!!!!! APPLAUSE!!!!
well, those who REALLY want "religion" off of the reservation....and into society as a whole, and into the public arena.....are prefectly fine with that, as long as it's THEIR religion "out in the open", and anyone else's religion is nowhere to be found.
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RE: How could a Christian support Mccain/Palin? - 9/10/2008 5:02:59 PM
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But i do think honestly that if he (Obama) was white she (Oprah) wouldnt give him a second glance. She has never ever voiced her opinion so strongly about a President before this election. Imagine that...?
Thessa, I'd never thought about that, but I do believe you're right. Could she be backing Obama just because he's black and not based on anything else?
I doubt that. A lot people in the black community does not care for Oprah. They claim all she does is help out the white community and never do anything for the Black American community. So I being a black american has heard both sides.
I think Oprah is totally about ideology. Think about all the people she promotes. Everyone can talk freely about the faith, except if they're a Christian. When Christians speak up about the name of Jesus and that He is the Only way to God the Father. She has stop them with a vehement rebuke and inform them the are many ways to God.
So Oprah is not anti-white. That is why she left that church. I believe she might have known the True God, our Lord and Savior Jesus the Christ. She is pro celebrity more so than pro black or white. She is about experimenting with new ideas... a new age mentality. Mixing all of the religions.... she seems in love with her image and the way people hang on everything she presents to them. No she is not pro black... she is pro Oprah. She took the bait that satan offer eve. You can become a god. So don't get confused. When you read this, does her ideology or push for a new religious experience on the basis of this. She promoting Obama's campaign of change. Because Oprah was embracing concocting her on religion and promoting everyone to have freedom to call right wrong, and wrong/right. What ever makes you feel good, do it without a conscious. It also appears Oprah is impressed with the fact that she puts her stamp of approval on someone or things, the people jump right on it. That in it's self can make a person feel like a god. She is out of control and it seems in competition with.... hmm. I'll leave it at that. It would be wise to know only God is the True Source of promotion. He builds up and He can tear down. God is a jealous God and He does not compete with mere humans... the creatures He created. So bottom line... Obama is her project... and if he wins... well, how much more will it seem she has the golden touch. Just food for thought. I know not her heart... but, her actions are shouting loud. Yet, if it were not for the grace of God... there go we all. Who would not be tempted to be drunk with such influence and monetary power. Lord have mercy on her... on us all.
Anyway do read the verses belong. God word is true.
It is written: 2 Peter 2-2:
1 But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them--bringing swift destruction on themselves. 2 Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute.
...12 But these men blaspheme in matters they do not understand. They are like brute beasts, creatures of instinct, born only to be caught and destroyed, and like beasts they too will perish. 13 They will be paid back with harm for the harm they have done. Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you. 14 With eyes full of adultery, they never stop sinning; they seduce the unstable; they are experts in greed--an accursed brood! 15 They have left the straight way and wandered off to follow the way of Balaam son of Beor, who loved the wages of wickedness. 16 But he was rebuked for his wrongdoing by a donkey--a beast without speech--who spoke with a man's voice and restrained the prophet's madness. 17 These men are springs without water and mists driven by a storm. Blackest darkness is reserved for them. 18 For they mouth empty, boastful words and, by appealing to the lustful desires of sinful human nature, they entice people who are just escaping from those who live in error. 19 They promise them freedom, while they themselves are slaves of depravity--for a man is a slave to whatever has mastered him. 20 If they have escaped the corruption of the world by knowing our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and are again entangled in it and overcome, they are worse off at the end than they were at the beginning. 21 It would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than to have known it and then to turn their backs on the sacred command that was passed on to them. 22 Of them the proverbs are true: "A dog returns to its vomit," and, "A sow that is washed goes back to her wallowing in the mud."
It is not Palins skin tone that makes her not want to give an interview. It is the Truth of the Gospel of Jesus the Christ in Palins heart that puts fear in Oprah. Oprah opposes Christ Centered Individuals.
P.S. I do think would be a blessing to pray for Oprah... I can't look at her show anymore... it just grieves me so. But, I love her because God loves her and wants her to come to her senses. So pray that she be deliver from herself and the stronghold of deceptions. To many christians are fellowing her, because her so called good deeds. But good deeds without the Holy Spirit's annointing are dead works.[/i]
So I'm happy to agree to disagree with your theory.
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RE: How could a Christian support Mccain/Palin? - 9/10/2008 5:26:15 PM
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It also appears Oprah is impressed with the fact that she puts her stamp of approval on someone or things, the people jump right on it. That in it's self can make a person feel like a god. She is out of control and it seems in competition with.... hmm. I'll leave it at that.
wow...you know Oprah personally? and so well? thank you for your insight, which could only come from someone who TRULY knows her.
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RE: How could a Christian support Mccain/Palin? - 9/10/2008 5:29:03 PM
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They are prolife and and they beleive marraige must be btween a man and a woman that is enough reason to support them but when you look to the way they want to accoumblish that if you are a God fearing person you are shocked especially when thier core supporters are christians, the campaign they are running, it something far from godly is very ungodly. The lies, the language the smear. I no longer watch news with my children like I did in the past. One of daughters asked me whether Sarah Palin is a christian when I wanted to know why she told what she heard her friends at school say she said about Senator Obama, frankly knew that Sarah Palin was lying about Obama. The whole world is watching and our children, I am fearful of them. Those people are running on the platform of ethics but the spinn the lying makes one to wonder.
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RE: How could a Christian support Mccain/Palin? - 9/10/2008 6:27:40 PM
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The people of this nation, our society, used to have two authorities the government and the Church.. both under God. These days the government has made itself autonomous, no longer under God and the Church is tolerated as long as it stays out of the public arena. The Church is well on it's way to becoming like the Indian nations. Allowed to exist as long as it stays on the reservation. The government has assumed the role of the All-Mighty and it cannot bear the mantle. J
Very, very well said!!! APPLAUSE!!!!! APPLAUSE!!!!
well, those who REALLY want "religion" off of the reservation....and into society as a whole, and into the public arena.....are prefectly fine with that, as long as it's THEIR religion "out in the open", and anyone else's religion is nowhere to be found.
kerns, please clarify, your statement didn't make sense to me.
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RE: How could a Christian support Mccain/Palin? - 9/10/2008 6:43:47 PM
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This commercial is one reason why I am voting for McCain/Palin.
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RE: How could a Christian support Mccain/Palin? - 9/10/2008 6:55:33 PM
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But i do think honestly that if he (Obama) was white she (Oprah) wouldnt give him a second glance. She has never ever voiced her opinion so strongly about a President before this election. Imagine that...?
Thessa, I'd never thought about that, but I do believe you're right. Could she be backing Obama just because he's black and not based on anything else?
I doubt that. A lot people in the black community does not care for Oprah. They claim all she does is help out the white community and never do anything for the Black American community. So I being a black american has heard both sides.
I think Oprah is totally about ideology. Think about all the people she promotes. Everyone can talk freely about the faith, except if they're a Christian. When Christians speak up about the name of Jesus and that He is the Only way to God the Father. She has stop them with a vehement rebuke and inform them the are many ways to God.
So Oprah is not anti-white. That is why she left that church. I believe she might have known the True God, our Lord and Savior Jesus the Christ. She is pro celebrity more so than pro black or white. She is about experimenting with new ideas... a new age mentality. Mixing all of the religions.... she seems in love with her image and the way people hang on everything she presents to them. No she is not pro black... she is pro Oprah. She took the bait that satan offer eve. You can become a god. So don't get confused. When you read this, does her ideology or push for a new religious experience on the basis of this. She promoting Obama's campaign of change. Because Oprah was embracing concocting her on religion and promoting everyone to have freedom to call right wrong, and wrong/right. What ever makes you feel good, do it without a conscious. It also appears Oprah is impressed with the fact that she puts her stamp of approval on someone or things, the people jump right on it. That in it's self can make a person feel like a god. She is out of control and it seems in competition with.... hmm. I'll leave it at that. It would be wise to know only God is the True Source of promotion. He builds up and He can tear down. God is a jealous God and He does not compete with mere humans... the creatures He created. So bottom line... Obama is her project... and if he wins... well, how much more will it seem she has the golden touch. Just food for thought. I know not her heart... but, her actions are shouting loud. Yet, if it were not for the grace of God... there go we all. Who would not be tempted to be drunk with such influence and monetary power. Lord have mercy on her... on us all.
Anyway do read the verses belong. God word is true.
It is written: 2 Peter 2-2:
1 But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them--bringing swift destruction on themselves. 2 Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute.
...12 But these men blaspheme in matters they do not understand. They are like brute beasts, creatures of instinct, born only to be caught and destroyed, and like beasts they too will perish. 13 They will be paid back with harm for the harm they have done. Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you. 14 With eyes full of adultery, they never stop sinning; they seduce the unstable; they are experts in greed--an accursed brood! 15 They have left the straight way and wandered off to follow the way of Balaam son of Beor, who loved the wages of wickedness. 16 But he was rebuked for his wrongdoing by a donkey--a beast without speech--who spoke with a man's voice and restrained the prophet's madness. 17 These men are springs without water and mists driven by a storm. Blackest darkness is reserved for them. 18 For they mouth empty, boastful words and, by appealing to the lustful desires of sinful human nature, they entice people who are just escaping from those who live in error. 19 They promise them freedom, while they themselves are slaves of depravity--for a man is a slave to whatever has mastered him. 20 If they have escaped the corruption of the world by knowing our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and are again entangled in it and overcome, they are worse off at the end than they were at the beginning. 21 It would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than to have known it and then to turn their backs on the sacred command that was passed on to them. 22 Of them the proverbs are true: "A dog returns to its vomit," and, "A sow that is washed goes back to her wallowing in the mud."
It is not Palins skin tone that makes her not want to give an interview. It is the Truth of the Gospel of Jesus the Christ in Palins heart that puts fear in Oprah. Oprah opposes Christ Centered Individuals.
P.S. I do think would be a blessing to pray for Oprah... I can't look at her show anymore... it just grieves me so. But, I love her because God loves her and wants her to come to her senses. So pray that she be deliver from herself and the stronghold of deceptions. To many christians are fellowing her, because her so called good deeds. But good deeds without the Holy Spirit's annointing are dead works.[/i]
So I'm happy to agree to disagree with your theory.
~Dolli
Dolli,
First of all, thank you for promoting a healthy discussion!
To me, for all appearances, Oprah is backing Obama because he's black. However, after seeing your argument I do agree with you that "It also appears Oprah is impressed with the fact that she puts her stamp of approval on someone or things, the people jump right on it. That in it's self can make a person feel like a god."
So, don't you think that she put her "stamp of approval" on Obama just because he's black? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I seem to remember seeing a show where she interviewed him right after he declared his candidacy (and I mean like the next day), and all she did was talk about him being black, it's time for a black president, and so on and so forth. So, that would lead me to believe she's promoting his "blackness" instead of his qualifications to serve.
I know there are voters out there that will vote for Obama based on race alone, just as there will be voters out there that will vote for McCain, just because Palin is a woman. It's terribly sad, but unfortunately true.
And I am in total agreement with you that Oprah is in dire need of prayer, as is Obama. They both have backgrounds of the Truth. Have they been deceived to stray from the faith, or did they ever have Jesus to begin with? I don't know. What I do know is that when I see Oprah's reaction to Christians it sends a shiver down my spine. satan and his demons don't like being in the presence of the Holy Spirit, Amen? So far, I haven't seen that with Obama, so IMO, there may be more hope for him. But, then again, I don't know them personally, these are just my observations.
You stated: "It is not Palins skin tone that makes her not want to give an interview. It is the Truth of the Gospel of Jesus the Christ in Palins heart that puts fear in Oprah. Oprah opposes Christ Centered Individuals."
I guess I've missed something somewhere, does Palin not want to give an interview with Oprah, or does Oprah not want to interview her?
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RE: How could a Christian support Mccain/Palin? - 9/10/2008 7:05:16 PM
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you know even a Democrat like myself would admit that McCain could never ruin our nation any worse than the way Cowboy W has. However, I believe that 4 more years of trickle down economics will wipe out the middle class. If our country has to be subjected to 12 years of Republican dictatorship, we will soon be like the Dominican Republic. Either filthy rich or Dirt poor, no middle class.
Well said. I do respect McCain, but 8 years of the same is too much - and to answer a question from another Republican - no, we are not better off than we were 8 years ago.
Peace and God bless,
gotta agree.
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RE: How could a Christian support Mccain/Palin? - 9/10/2008 7:23:16 PM
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McCain is married to a woman who inherited a lot of wealth which includes real estate. He doesn't sit around counting his houses like Scrooge McDuck counts his money. He doesn't know how many pieces of that type of real estate is in his wife's portfolio. So what is the big deal?
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RE: How could a Christian support Mccain/Palin? - 9/11/2008 2:52:15 AM
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Thessa
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But i do think honestly that if he (Obama) was white she (Oprah) wouldnt give him a second glance. She has never ever voiced her opinion so strongly about a President before this election. Imagine that...?
Thessa, I'd never thought about that, but I do believe you're right. Could she be backing Obama just because he's black and not based on anything else?
I beleive so. Because she has never ever been so fired up before about a candidate. She even went to some of his rallys. I mean i kinda understand because if i was black i would probably see this as being a wonderful accomplishment and finally a step towards a great thing. Which i think its great that finally black people are being more accepted because of Obamas' proverbial possible path to the white house, BUT i do believe that alot of them are just voting for him because of race and nothing else for that reason alone. If they were to really see his actions and really understand what he stands for i dont see how anyone - black or white - could stand him.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/09/06/obama.oprah/index.html?eref=rss_politics
Winfrey has repeatedly shown her name can sell nearly anything, but the media magnate has never endorsed a presidential candidate before.
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RE: How could a Christian support Mccain/Palin? - 9/11/2008 8:48:03 AM
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RE: How could a Christian support Mccain/Palin? - 9/11/2008 9:08:40 AM
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What if McCain had picked Condeleza Rice? Would she have her on? Interesting to ponder.
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RE: How could a Christian support Mccain/Palin? - 9/11/2008 9:21:36 AM
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What if McCain had picked Condeleza Rice? Would she have her on? Interesting to ponder.
I wish Rice would have run for Prez.
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RE: How could a Christian support Mccain/Palin? - 9/11/2008 9:29:19 AM
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But i do think honestly that if he (Obama) was white she (Oprah) wouldnt give him a second glance. She has never ever voiced her opinion so strongly about a President before this election. Imagine that...?
Thessa, I'd never thought about that, but I do believe you're right. Could she be backing Obama just because he's black and not based on anything else?
Which i think its great that finally black people are being more accepted because of Obamas' proverbial possible path to the white house, BUT i do believe that alot of them are just voting for him because of race and nothing else for that reason alone.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/09/06/obama.oprah/index.html?eref=rss_politics
Winfrey has repeatedly shown her name can sell nearly anything, but the media magnate has never endorsed a presidential candidate before.
Thessa, this is way I love this country... the freedom to express ourselves, and freedom to agree to disagree.
I being black know for a fact, that there are many in my sphere of influence do not think as you stated above. You see there are many people who vote based upon moral values.
Besides Obama, is not only black... remember his mother is white. Why is it the majority of the white community refuse to see his white heritage.
That is another flaw I see in our society. We choose to see skin tones. I refuse to see any tone. I choose to make decisions based upon ones belief system their theology, ideology and lifestyle. Skin tones are just shells. I choose to see pass the shell of the person, observes their behavior to see whether or not their actions line up with their speech. Voting records and action... that is how I and most of my peers, white, black, purple, red or green... choose our candidates.
Please don't stereo type skin tones. People are choosing him more so for his youth, his liberal policies more so than his skin tone. As far as being proud of a black candidate... NOT. I'm excited about anyone, displaying the wisdom of the Things of God and have a heart to protect the unborn.
My pride is not in my skin tone. My pride is in what Jesus did at the cross. As far as skin tones goes... the word of God never let us know what skintone Jesus was, WHY? I DON'T KNOW. However, God in His Wisdom thought it to be a great thing not to do. One might say Jesus is truly all things to all skin tones.
Race, racism, skin tones, is just a ploy satan uses to keep division, skisms, wars, etc... between human beings made in the image of God. Satan taps in on the sin of pride within peoples hearts. Most people feel so inferior they need to elevated their own worth or esteem by oppressing and berating others. And inferior person feels superior by controlling or berating another. However, it is not a black or white problem. It is the evil heart of all people. As I always say their are wars and crimes amongst many nations of the same skin tone. Bottom line of wars are pride and ideologies.
So this black female would vote for the person who has a heart for the matters of God... the Living God... who did for the Sins of the World... who love the little children and All of us made in the image of God. God who is a Spirit... not a skintone.
So if Obama was such a person who would honor God my his choice for Life .... of the innocent and not bait and switch in other matters dear to my heart concerning God's ways. Well, I would have voted for him. However, he doesn't and the people I'm voting for just happen to be white. If McCain/Palin were black I still would vote for them. Then you would probably said I voted for them because they were black.
Thessa, some black and white people do have a heart for Christ, the wisdom of Christ for he live in our hearts and we are not shallow to choose upon skin tone.
Just like all young people are not going to vote for him. Some of are young people display wisdom in the things of God because of the investments their parents made in their lives... not all have gone astray.
Anyway, my sister. Thank you for allowing me to agree to disagree with you.
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