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...or, at least, that is what a poster on another thread seemed to imply.

Please....can somebody help me out here? I am aghast.

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As I pointed out in the other thread, I believe that the poster simply misspelled the name of Florida's Governor "Crist", and was not implying that Gov. Palin was Christ.

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ORIGINAL: my2cents

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...or, at least, that is what a poster on another thread seemed to imply.

Please....can somebody help me out here? I am aghast.

As I pointed out in the other thread, I believe that the poster simply misspelled the name of Florida's Governor "Crist", and was not implying that Gov. Palin was Christ.

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That's like saying choose David Berkowitz over Henry Lee Lucas. None of these parties represent christ-like values stop it please.

Do not append the Lord God Most High to any political party.

You know something the greatest community organizer ever was Christ and who did Sarah Palin slam in her speech the work that community workers do. Go after Barack Obama fine but to belittle the owrk of community workers who steps in when the government fails to is reprehensible. I have worked hard for the people in my community and there are millions of others she had no right to speak of it as if its nothing.

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ORIGINAL: Jhud

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That's like saying choose David Berkowitz over Henry Lee Lucas. None of these parties represent christ-like values stop it please.

Do not append the Lord God Most High to any political party.

You know something the greatest community organizer ever was Christ and who did Sarah Palin slam in her speech the work that community workers do. Go after Barack Obama fine but to belittle the owrk of community workers who steps in when the government fails to is reprehensible. I have worked hard for the people in my community and there are millions of others she had no right to speak of it as if its nothing.

You really think that Palin and Obama are like serial killers?

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ORIGINAL: Jhud

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As I pointed out in the other thread, I believe that the poster simply misspelled the name of Florida's Governor "Crist", and was not implying that Gov. Palin was Christ.

But you know, if she can get Jesus to run with her, I would definitely vote for that ticket - of course, He probably wouldn't need a VP.

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Well, Barracuda does have the marksmanship skills and knows how to field dress a moose.

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Americans, especially Republicans, would never elect a long-haired bearded Jewish guy, travelling about with no visible means of support, preaching peace and understanding, healing at no charge, love your neighbor as yourself, feed the hungry, comfort the hurting, and no way could they deal with a single guy who seems to spend an inordinate amount of time with his male buddies.

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ORIGINAL: my2cents
As I pointed out in the other thread, I believe that the poster simply misspelled the name of Florida's Governor "Crist", and was not implying that Gov. Palin was Christ.

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ORIGINAL: okrox

...or, at least, that is what a poster on another thread seemed to imply.

Please....can somebody help me out here? I am aghast.

But, then again, maybe nobody else here sees the many, many problems with that attitude?

If that is the sort of reasoning the Christian community comes up with, we deserve all the bashing we get.

I am...aghast.

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ORIGINAL: AdrianaS

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ORIGINAL: okrox

...or, at least, that is what a poster on another thread seemed to imply.

Please....can somebody help me out here? I am aghast.

But, then again, maybe nobody else here sees the many, many problems with that attitude?

If that is the sort of reasoning the Christian community comes up with, we deserve all the bashing we get.

I am...aghast.

I have to confess that I had to look at dictionary about aghast meaning..lol..but my personal aghast my do come colored because of me being a foreigner born and that our God is not a monopolio of USA's particular party, He belongs to many who belongs to Him alone all over the globe!


I do think a political party can become an idol to some, particular here in the USA where some draw the line of Republicans being pro God and Democrats against Him...at least is the way it come across by the discurs of some in this board..well maybe because I have no attachments with both parties I do not see things the way many see...and Republican party to me comes across as a Party of war in a Superpower Nation. Unfortunatly some do come across to me as reading their Bibles as USA is Israel of OT, as The Lord leading His people to go to wars under His Name and etc. In my Bible I do read Israel the Nation of choice of the Lord and all the other Nations standings during history, past, present and future, still the real action the Bible points to is to look at Israel and etc it is all written in Scriptures about the Church and Israel unique standings.

Than the greater Christian Community the Body of Christ around the world where believers in the USA is a part of it as the representative Body of Christ in this nation, may find this unique standings comming from some, reggarding Republican Party and their candidates as being Christ representatives not be biblical but extreme position of fanacticism. We must walk in wisdom not fanacticism comming from left or right political views of issues because the true meassure does not comes by men comparing with men but with Christ, Christ Himself stands above all of party politics and His mission is 1 to save men. There are no men who will save men and not die but The Only One unique Man God who Is: Jesus Christ lives. There is none like HIM!- than foolishness comes from fools and those who lacks wisdom must ask God for it, all of us need His wisdom and constant updates of our hearts states and a life of full daily dependency of Him and not men.

Now, being an international born, living in US what I know is that many of the out cry comming from international community reggarding USA present Bush administration and wars, diplomacy and etc was not a political cry from their nations many representatives leaders from diverse political standings. But so many Christians Bible believing individuals around the world cried out against Iraq war. Than the way some Christian from particular party in the US see themselves and what other Christian around the world perceives them do differ, but who cares what the world outside USA thinks? Right? The international voice to some are what they choose them to be in a "package of nations politics", not who they are in reality in their own individual standings, as not just Christians Bible believers also, but plain commomsense thought people. And sure the Bible itself show us exemples of Christians calling other Christians out.


The line must be drawn at some point between politics and religion particularly when those who belong to Him do have a personal relationship with Christ, inside each one we carry in our earthly vessels, His Spirit seal of promisse and eternal hope to come. Glory to God.


Thanks.

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and Republican party to me comes across as a Party of war in a Superpower Nation. Unfortunatly some do come across to me as reading their Bibles as USA is Israel of OT, as The Lord leading His people to go to wars under His Name and etc.

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Now, being an international born, living in US what I know is that many of the out cry comming from international community reggarding USA present Bush administration and wars, diplomacy and etc was not a political cry from their nations many representatives leaders from diverse political standings. But so many Christians Bible believing individuals around the world cried out against Iraq war. Than the way some Christian from particular party in the US see themselves and what other Christian around the world perceives them do differ, but who cares what the world outside USA thinks? Right? The international voice to some are what they choose them to be in a "package of nations politics", not who they are in reality in their own individual standings, as not just Christians Bible believers also, but plain commomsense thought people. And sure the Bible itself show us exemples of Christians calling other Christians out.

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Well, Barracuda does have the marksmanship skills and knows how to field dress a moose.

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ORIGINAL: my2cents
As I pointed out in the other thread, I believe that the poster simply misspelled the name of Florida's Governor "Crist", and was not implying that Gov. Palin was Christ.

Are you kidding me? I think that was my post and I can't even find it now - it was the first thing I did when I rolled out of bed this morning! Or was it late last night? Was it my reference to looking forward to voting for Palin/Crist in 2012 or 2016?

Get real, people! A whole ranting thread launching a theological discussion on a typo?? Now I know we've all gone over the deep end.

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I think people need to examine the platforms of both parites before making blanket statements that a party is all about one thing or another. Both major parties have things that most of us can agree upon in their platforms, in fact far more in common than they do in difference. There are variying differences in how to attain those common goals, of course.

There are things in each party platform I agree with and things I disagree with, which is why I don't belong to either. When I vote I vote for the person running for the office, not for the political party.

I want someone who is honest and upright, educated and articulate, having intelligence and common sense, someone who knows how to work with folks and who does not engage in histrionics or vendettas. I want a leader who is first and foremost a public servant and never forgets that.

I want someone who will work for the common good, not for Big Oil or giving more money to Big Business to move overseas and leave Americans without jobs. Corporate welfare should be the first kind of welfare cut from the budget.

I want someone who will not tolerate partisanship in any branch of the government but will see to it that each agency operates efficiently, hiring and maintaining the best applicants to serve the public. Toeing the party line has no place in the Oval Office- the President is the President for the entire United States, not just the Red States or the Blue ones, and this philosophy should be applied right on down the line.

I want someone who can take into account the homeless guy under the bridge as well as the millionaire, the struggling single parent right along with the intact family.

I want someone who thinks that a woman deserves to be paid the same wage or salary as a man when both are doing the same job and have the same experience.

I want someone who can truly endeavor to protect our natural resources and wilderness areas while at the same time holding industry to the letter of the law when contracting to allow them to extract needed resources, and ensure that said industries pay the US taxpayer the fair market rate for those resources and that they clean up after themselves during and after said extraction.

I want someone who is progressive, who thinks ahead and puts resources into place for future growth and needs, and who shows me why this is needed and how it can be done in plain terms. I can stomach an increase in my taxes if I can see that it is needed and that my money will be spent wisely.

I want someone who understands that justice isn't just about convictions and punishment but about rehabilitating felons so that they don't go back to criminal lives but can become productive, law-abiding citizens. This means counseling, education, and vocational training as well as spiritual growth and mentoring. Churches who want to partner with Corrections to provide this should be allowed to do so, and the taxpayers need to know the benefits of such programs in the prison system.

Justice is also about making sure that all proper procedures are followed by law enforcement, attornies, and the judiciary so that the innocent are exonerated, and the guilty are found and tried fairly and competantly for a just conviction. If evidence proves that someone has been wrongfully convicted, then that person should be exonerated and released immediately.

Do I want to see human life protected from conception? I sure do, but even I know that there are circumstances, such as ectopic (tubal)pregnancies, when the mother's life is truly in danger and the pregnancy must be terminated or both mother and child will die. For actual medical reasons where it is proven that the mother will die without intervention and the child cannot be saved and for those reasons alone-not mental health or lifestyle- should there be provisions for an abortion, and it must be performed in a hospital with full medical staff in attendance.

We need a strong military, but we also need to stop defense contractors who are ripping us off. An accounting must be required and any irregularities nipped in the bud. Our men and women in uniform should be paid better and our veterans and wounded given the best medical care this nation has to offer... as promised.

We need a better health care system than the one we've got, one where the poor among us have access to needed medical, dental, and vision services so that they can go to work or keep a job. If we can get pharmaceuticals cheaper from Canadian companies, then by all means lets do so. The competition will cause American pharmaceutical companies to have to adjust their prices and the consumers will benefit. Also, any company that refuses to produce and market a cheaper medication, like one to treat macular degeneration for $60/month as opposed to the one currently available for $2000/month, should have all federal funding for that company terminated immediately. And medicaid should be fixed so that NO illegal alien gets free medical anything- not even for childbirth. Like American citizens, they should pay up front or have to do without.

And I want someone who will promote and encourage civil discourse as I am so tired of all of the sniping and knee-jerking and bickering, all of the vendettas and feuding and backstabbing, and other such behaviors ill-fitting in a supposedly civilized society.

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ORIGINAL: AdrianaS

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ORIGINAL: okrox

...or, at least, that is what a poster on another thread seemed to imply.

Please....can somebody help me out here? I am aghast.

But, then again, maybe nobody else here sees the many, many problems with that attitude?

If that is the sort of reasoning the Christian community comes up with, we deserve all the bashing we get.

I am...aghast.

I have to confess that I had to look at dictionary about aghast meaning..lol..but my personal aghast my do come colored because of me being a foreigner born and that our God is not a monopolio of USA's particular party, He belongs to many who belongs to Him alone all over the globe!


I do think a political party can become an idol to some, particular here in the USA where some draw the line of Republicans being pro God and Democrats against Him...at least is the way it come across by the discurs of some in this board..well maybe because I have no attachments with both parties I do not see things the way many see...and Republican party to me comes across as a Party of war in a Superpower Nation. Unfortunatly some do come across to me as reading their Bibles as USA is Israel of OT, as The Lord leading His people to go to wars under His Name and etc. In my Bible I do read Israel the Nation of choice of the Lord and all the other Nations standings during history, past, present and future, still the real action the Bible points to is to look at Israel and etc it is all written in Scriptures about the Church and Israel unique standings.

Than the greater Christian Community the Body of Christ around the world where believers in the USA is a part of it as the representative Body of Christ in this nation, may find this unique standings comming from some, reggarding Republican Party and their candidates as being Christ representatives not be biblical but extreme position of fanacticism. We must walk in wisdom not fanacticism comming from left or right political views of issues because the true meassure does not comes by men comparing with men but with Christ, Christ Himself stands above all of party politics and His mission is 1 to save men. There are no men who will save men and not die but The Only One unique Man God who Is: Jesus Christ lives. There is none like HIM!- than foolishness comes from fools and those who lacks wisdom must ask God for it, all of us need His wisdom and constant updates of our hearts states and a life of full daily dependency of Him and not men.

Now, being an international born, living in US what I know is that many of the out cry comming from international community reggarding USA present Bush administration and wars, diplomacy and etc was not a political cry from their nations many representatives leaders from diverse political standings. But so many Christians Bible believing individuals around the world cried out against Iraq war. Than the way some Christian from particular party in the US see themselves and what other Christian around the world perceives them do differ, but who cares what the world outside USA thinks? Right? The international voice to some are what they choose them to be in a "package of nations politics", not who they are in reality in their own individual standings, as not just Christians Bible believers also, but plain commomsense thought people. And sure the Bible itself show us exemples of Christians calling other Christians out.


The line must be drawn at some point between politics and religion particularly when those who belong to Him do have a personal relationship with Christ, inside each one we carry in our earthly vessels, His Spirit seal of promisse and eternal hope to come. Glory to God.


Thanks.

please read above post....

wow....a typo....ooops....

end of story

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ORIGINAL: WesP

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and Republican party to me comes across as a Party of war in a Superpower Nation. Unfortunatly some do come across to me as reading their Bibles as USA is Israel of OT, as The Lord leading His people to go to wars under His Name and etc.

Where do you get this? Both parties voted on the war. Both parties want out. The Democrats want out immediately, and that undermines the entire endeavor. The Republicans want out when the Iraqi government can deal with security themselves. We are talking with Iraq now about being out the first of 2010. Also, Replacement Theology has nothing to do with political affiliation.

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Now, being an international born, living in US what I know is that many of the out cry comming from international community reggarding USA present Bush administration and wars, diplomacy and etc was not a political cry from their nations many representatives leaders from diverse political standings. But so many Christians Bible believing individuals around the world cried out against Iraq war. Than the way some Christian from particular party in the US see themselves and what other Christian around the world perceives them do differ, but who cares what the world outside USA thinks? Right? The international voice to some are what they choose them to be in a "package of nations politics", not who they are in reality in their own individual standings, as not just Christians Bible believers also, but plain commomsense thought people. And sure the Bible itself show us exemples of Christians calling other Christians out.

What was the vote from the "international community" when the war started? Is it the same now? Not even close.