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RE: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant - 9/3/2008 7:27:15 PM
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earthless
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Earthless, the only thing I've seen about that is a picture supposedly of Bristol Palin and an (as yet) unidentified friend holding a liquor bottle, mugging for the camera. I don't believe it's been confirmed to be Bristol. And from what I've heard, the photo originally surfaced at....wait for it....Perez Hilton's website (?!)
Two photos.. one of the tongue and the other of them holding a Captain Morgan rum bottle and being all cheesy about it.
Perez Hilton and TMZ are on the cutting edge of the gossip.. so that's not a shocker.
well, even if real - how many of us took embarrassing photos when we were children/teens? Somewhere in my mom's many photo albums is a picture of me naked in the bathtub. I hope it never gets out!!
Do you really think they are not real?
And I am not saying any of this as a GOP basher.. for I am voting McCain/Palin.. but that more and more stuff is going to be dug up.
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RE: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant - 9/3/2008 7:29:02 PM
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Being responsible can take place after the fact... If he doesn't own up to the responsibility he would be worse than the infidel according to the bible...
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1Ti 5:8 But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.
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RE: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant - 9/3/2008 7:29:28 PM
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Personally I don't care - it's a little bit like the line in Juno - she's already pregnant, what fact could make her look worse?
The fact is she probably didn't get pregnant in a church pew.
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RE: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant - 9/3/2008 7:30:43 PM
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Earthless, the only thing I've seen about that is a picture supposedly of Bristol Palin and an (as yet) unidentified friend holding a liquor bottle, mugging for the camera. I don't believe it's been confirmed to be Bristol. And from what I've heard, the photo originally surfaced at....wait for it....Perez Hilton's website (?!)
Two photos.. one of the tongue and the other of them holding a Captain Morgan rum bottle and being all cheesy about it.
Perez Hilton and TMZ are on the cutting edge of the gossip.. so that's not a shocker.
well, even if real - how many of us took embarrassing photos when we were children/teens? Somewhere in my mom's many photo albums is a picture of me naked in the bathtub. I hope it never gets out!!
Do you really think they are not real?
And I am not saying any of this as a GOP basher.. for I am voting McCain/Palin.. but that more and more stuff is going to be dug up.
I really couldn't say for sure that the photos in question are real - in the sense that it's Bristol Palin in them. I hate to say this - but to an old man like me, most high school girls look alike!
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RE: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant - 9/3/2008 7:32:15 PM
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And I am not saying any of this as a GOP basher.. for I am voting McCain/Palin.. but that more and more stuff is going to be dug up.
And we should get used to it I suppose, because more and more of our lives are being recorded in photos and videos and online in some form or another. And it doesn't take much to manipulate such info, as we have seen.
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RE: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant - 9/3/2008 7:43:23 PM
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The 17 y/o kid isn't up on the ballot therefore her actions really don't matter to me. Unfortunately there are a lot of dumb things teens do that they have to pay the consequences for later. A lot of kids will regret the pics that they posted online for years to come. Bristol Palin will not be alone.
I did stuff at 15-18 that I knew dang well was wrong, sinful and illegal. I was taught better. I had to pay the consequences of my choices, not my mom. She did her job of teaching me right from wrong. It did not matter at that time in my life what I was taught because I made the choice to do what I did all on my own. I'm sure it's the same for Bristol and every other teenager out there who has done a few things that they shouldn't have done. It is part of growing up.
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RE: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant - 9/3/2008 7:47:18 PM
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And I am not saying any of this as a GOP basher.. for I am voting McCain/Palin.. but that more and more stuff is going to be dug up.
And we should get used to it I suppose, because more and more of our lives are being recorded in photos and videos and online in some form or another. And it doesn't take much to manipulate such info, as we have seen.
Sadly.. these photos do not need to be manipulated. Simply posted.
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RE: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant - 9/3/2008 7:59:59 PM
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People just want to attack non-leftists.
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RE: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant - 9/3/2008 8:02:12 PM
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People just want to attack non-leftists.
Earthless,
I jsut thought of a good question for you!
Are children part of a Christians "fruit".
Or should I start another thread?
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RE: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant - 9/3/2008 8:05:48 PM
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People just want to attack non-leftists.
On this forum?
In any case, I note that you condemn both attacking people and use the term "leftists" in the same sentence. Since you are being consistent, thanks for affirming leftist as a compliment and not a smear; I agree with you that leftists are smart and should not be held in just as high a regard as any other political ideology.
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RE: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant - 9/4/2008 11:59:35 AM
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Levi's My Space page was created when he was quite young. It had not been accessed in over 2 years. I really don't know many 15 year old boys who would check 'yes' when asked if they'd want children.
Franklin Graham has used his past to win many to the Lord. I don't know much about Christopher Laurie other than what I read on the internet. I do know none of us are perfect!
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RE: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant - 9/4/2008 12:14:08 PM
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I'm sure I speak for many in sharing that hope.
Yeah, when I was ten I looked like a Farside kid. I hope that doesn't get out.
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RE: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant - 9/4/2008 1:28:49 PM
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A lot of people don't think they want kids, until they find out they are having one. And that might not even have been a recent statement. God forbid I be judged by things I said when I was a teenager!
Those two kids are almost adults, and their bad decision will lead them to being adults earlier. Thankfully for them they have people who can teach them to do this.
Hitting age 18 makes one legally an adult, but not emotionally or spiritually an adult. We ALL know people twice that age who are still immature and irresponsible.
This situation may certainly lead Bristol to grow up earlier, but maybe not her fiance'. Guys simply don't mature as fast or well as girls, and if the MySpace thing was any indication, this young man has quite a ways to go before he grows up. And all the teachers in the world might not be enough to keep these two together down the road. Teen marriages have a failure rate of 95% +/-. Teenagers' brains are still developing (even if it apears they're not using them) and their ability to weigh consequence- or their ability to discern as it were- is not fully functional. Their personalities are also still developing, and they will change as they get older.
It will boil down to each one's commitment to doing whatever it takes to make it work, which is a very large order for someone not yet grown up. Teen fathers, far more than teen mothers, may feel that they are missing out on life and resent the child and the child's mother for "ruining" his life and may become abusive (altho you'd think he'd have better sense given who his in-laws are) or neglectful. Most teen fathers bail out within 2 yrs, which is harsh but the reality of the matter. Obviously Bristol wouldn't have the monetary worries of being a single mother like the vast majority of young ladies in her position, but no amount of money or social position would be able to buffer her from the emotional hurts should her marriage fail and her husband abandon her and their child.
Its going to be an expensive lesson either way, and I truly feel for her.
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RE: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant - 9/4/2008 1:49:29 PM
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if the MySpace thing was any indication
Did you see Diane's post up higher? He hadn't changed his page in 2 years. That alone speaks of a bit of growing up to me, lol.
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RE: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant - 9/4/2008 4:27:45 PM
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My prayer for her is that one day she will turn to Him to teach her to be what He wants her to be... an excellent wife to Todd, and a faithful mother to those precious children and grandchildren to come.
In His love,
Melanie
I think you're wanting God to "teach her" to be the wife and mother YOU want her to be.
 Yep ~ Guilty as charged. (see Ps 37:4)
I know first hand the blessing I am praying for them and I actually have a very tender heart toward Sarah and her family. No condemnation here.
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RE: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant - 9/4/2008 4:48:31 PM
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Looks like a few online sleuths are catching up to the original poster of the pictures and false allegations about Palin and her son Trig. There is a lot of internet scrubbing and cleanup going on, but yahoo and google cache so darn many things that it's nearly impossible to anonymously post anything. It should be interesting to see where the information leads, and what connection it has, and what potential legal liability is in play.
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RE: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant - 9/4/2008 5:22:28 PM
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PaleHawkWoman
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if the MySpace thing was any indication
Did you see Diane's post up higher? He hadn't changed his page in 2 years. That alone speaks of a bit of growing up to me, lol.
Maybe, maybe not. I've known too many 18 yr old boys to expect too much maturity out of them... including one of my own. Thank God he's 21 now, working and going to college. But he most definitely went thru the idiot phase at age 17-18. A lot of jocks are even worse- they were more likely to be jerks when I was a teen and they're still more likely to be jerks if the class mates of my kids have been any indication.
My 16 yr old is as we say here in the South, 'smelling himself' and can be a real pain at times. I don't know if its the testosterone interfering with his common sense or what. When his buddies are all over here it's like trying to ride herd on a pack of half-grown pitbulls. At this point, I would not encourage him to get married at age 18 if he did get some girl pregnant. I would make him get a job and take care of his child- before and after its born, and to keep a strong presence in his child's life. But he would not be ready for the responsibilities of being a husband and father, and I would not want him, the girl, or the child to go thru the emotional trauma that occurs when a marriage goes bad.
Now if they keep it together and get married after college, that would be another thing.
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RE: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant - 9/4/2008 7:56:52 PM
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I don't think anyone is saying 'fornication' is OK. The Bible says it is a sin and as all Christians or non-Christians sin, there is nothing new or shocking about that. When Christians commit a sin, they have the option of confessing it to God and receiving God's forgiveness. We are not to judge another's sins, only God does that. As Christians, we are responsible to Him to repent of our many sins and because of Jesus Christ's sacrifice, we are forgiven. This young woman is nearly 18, and in America she is considered an adult at 18. It is no reflection on her parents or her upbringing that she got pregnant before marrying. My son's wife was pregnant at 17, they married after the baby was born and now he is a 17 year old Junior in HS and they are happily married. Oddly, my daughter-in-law claims not to be a Christian, but she would not have killed her baby....my precious grandson. "Judge not lest ye be judged".
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RE: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant - 9/8/2008 4:41:06 PM
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I would just like to express my opinion about Sarah Palin's daughter being pregnant. I too agree with some of the previous posters that yes, we know that sex outside/before marriage is a sin. But, what better opportunity for Sarah to practice her pro-life position than saying yes, my daughter is pregnant and we are supporting her and she is keeping the baby. I agree that adoption would have been the only other right thing to do. I strongly feel that it's God's decision on whether babies should live or die not us as humans. I believe things happen for a reason. And maybe like a previous poster said, she is like Esther brought about at a particular time for certain purpose. Maybe to get Roe v. Wade overturned!
And the line Obama said in a recent interview with Rick Davis I think it was where he said something like determining when life begins is above my pay grade, is totally riduculous! God tells us life begins at conception. You know it's so contradictory to me in the democratic platform how they want to take care of the lowest of the low with more govt. programs, but yet they condone abortion. A new life is the most precious and vulnerable there is. How can they not want to protect unborn children.
Anyway, McCain-Palin has my vote.
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RE: Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant - 9/8/2008 5:26:13 PM
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I'm sure I speak for many in sharing that hope.
Yeah, when I was ten I looked like a Farside kid. I hope that doesn't get out.
I am fighting to restrain my keyboard ..............................
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