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RE: Southern Rock Appreciate Thread - 9/3/2008 12:14:34 PM
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DaveW
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How about BTO? LOL!!! Southern part of Canada!
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RE: Southern Rock Appreciate Thread - 9/3/2008 12:52:56 PM
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I wouldn't classify CCR as Southern Rock. Their style doesn't fit. Plus, for all his Cajun posturing, John Fogerty is a California boy.
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RE: Southern Rock Appreciate Thread - 9/3/2008 1:30:42 PM
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Is Molly Hatchett considered a southern rock band? How about BTO? kd
Molly Hatchett I know is. I got to see them perform live, one time, in Bottineau, ND.
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RE: Southern Rock Appreciate Thread - 9/3/2008 1:36:17 PM
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Well, this is interesting. I got this list off of Slacker Personal Radio (www.slacker.com - GREAT website for listening to music on-line without commercials). They've got tons of stations with different genres of music, and I recently found one specifically for "Southern Rock." The following bands and singers are what the ones they consider to be classified as "Southern Rock"
1. Tom Petty
2. Lynyrd Skynyrd
3. The Allman Brothers Band
4. Creedence Clearwater Revival
5. The Black Crowes
6. ZZ Top
7. .38 Special
8. Stevie Ray Vaughan
9. Molly Hatchet
10. Little Feat
11. The Marshall Tucker Band
12. George Thorogood
13. Kenny Wayne Shepherd
14. Eagles
15. Gregg Allman
16. Blackfoot
17. Charlie Daniels
18. Joe Walsh
19. Bad Company
20. Gov't Mule
21. Outlaws
22. Wet Willie
23. The Doobie Brothers
24. Brother Cane
25. The Georgia Satellites
26. Cry of Love
27. Ozark Mountain Daredevils
28. The Screamin' Cheetah Wheelies
29. Foghat
30. John Fogerty
31. Vaughan Brothers
32. Dickey Betts
33. Johnny Van Zant
34. Jonny Lang
35. The Band
36. Edgar Winter
37. Van Zant
38. Drive-By Truckers
39. Eric Clapton
40. Widespread Panic
41. Doyle Bramhall II
42. Black Label Society
43. Bob Seger
44. Cross Canadian Ragweed
45. Kid Rock
46. The Kentucky Headhunters
47. Black Oak Arkansas
48. The James Gang
49. Jeff Beck
50. Flynnville Train
51. North Mississippi Allstars
52. Steve Earle
53. The Rolling Stones
54. Tishamingo
55. Atlanta Rhythm Section
56. Grand Funk Railroad
57. Blue Öyster Cult
58. Jeff Healey
59. Mountain
60. Back Door Slam
61. Chris Hicks
62. Counting Crows
63. Joe Bonamassa
64. Nazareth
65. Shooter Jennings
66. The Bottle Rockets
67. Bachman-Turner Overdrive
68. Pat Travers
69. Pure Prairie League
70. Hank Williams, Jr.
71. Humble Pie
72. Ram Jam
73. Rossington Collins Band
74. Cinderella
75. Dollar Store
76. Jackyl
77. Junkyard
78. Silvertide
79. Steve Miller
80. Ted Nugent
81. Third Day
82. White Cowbell Oklahoma
83. April Wine
84. Billy Thorpe
85. Canned Heat
86. Cowboy
87. Derek & the Dominos
88. Four Horsemen
89. Free
90. Janis Joplin
91. Red Rider
92. Sea Level
93. Southern Culture on the Skids
94. Stillwater
95. The Arc Angels
96. The Charlie Daniels Band
97. Black Stone Cherry
98. Cactus
99. Coco Montoya
100. Cream
101. Devon Allman
102. Edwin McCain
103. Elvin Bishop
104. Exile
105. Gary Moore
106. Ghost Riders
107. Halfway to Gone
108. Head East
109. Ingram Hill
110. J.J. Grey
111. Jackson Browne
112. James Taylor
113. Jerry Reed
114. Leadfoot
115. Little Texas
116. Lonnie Mack
117. Los Lonely Boys
118. Memphis Soul Revue
119. New Riders of the Purple Sage
120. Pete Berwick
121. Randall Bramblett
122. Rascal Flatts
123. Son Volt
124. Southern Gentlemen
125. Steppenwolf
126. Tantric
127. Tesla
128. The Gourds
129. The Mother Truckers
130. The Paladins
131. The Sleepers
132. The Traveling Wilburys
133. Tommy Castro
134. Tora Tora
135. Warren Haynes
I don't know if I agree with all of them being considered Southern Rock (especially the Traveling Wilburys... George Harrison in a Southern Rock band????), but I like most of the artists.
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RE: Southern Rock Appreciate Thread - 9/3/2008 2:32:12 PM
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James Taylor??? Janis Joplin??? Los Lonely Boys??? I want some of whatever this person was smokin'!!
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RE: Southern Rock Appreciate Thread - 9/3/2008 2:40:45 PM
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James Taylor??? Janis Joplin??? Los Lonely Boys??? I want some of whatever this person was smokin'!!
Ditto! I just found Jeff Healy on the list. REALLY??? The Jeff Healy Band was considered Southern Rock? That's like considering Iron Maiden as Christian Contemporary.
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RE: Southern Rock Appreciate Thread - 9/3/2008 2:45:43 PM
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Looks like their main criteria was somebody in the band had to be born south of the Canadian border.
Screaming Cheetah Wheelies??????????
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RE: Southern Rock Appreciate Thread - 9/3/2008 3:01:18 PM
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Nobody thought Blue Oyster Cult on that list was a bit strange?
Good ol' Long Island southern boys.
Bad Company is on that list which stinks because a friend of mine said they were southern rock because he saw their tapes everywhere here in Florida (yes, that was a part of his evidence). I understand that they have some stuff in common with southern rock but Bad Company is from Britain and don't "honky tonk".
With all the bands on the list how come REM didn't make it?
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RE: Southern Rock Appreciate Thread - 9/3/2008 3:27:55 PM
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The Eagles are from CA, James Gang are from Ohio, Grand Funk Railroad and Ted Nugent are from just outside Detroit MI.
Some members of the Traveling Wilburys were from England, as are the Cream, Derek and the Dominos, Humble Pie and the Rolling Stones.
They padded the list.
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RE: Southern Rock Appreciate Thread - 9/3/2008 3:44:25 PM
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Traveling Wilburys have no business being on there. They were a super-group, anyway (Jeff Lynn of E.L.O., Tom Petty, Roy Orbison, George Harrison of The Beatles, and Bob Dylan), and I don't think any of their stuff sounds even remotely like Southern Rock.
I like the music that's playing, but Dave is right... this list is padded, big time!
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RE: Southern Rock Appreciate Thread - 9/3/2008 3:45:36 PM
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They padded the list Ya think?!  I'm surprised they don't have the Beatles and Stones on there!
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RE: Southern Rock Appreciate Thread - 9/3/2008 4:03:26 PM
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So, geography doesn't necessary make a band a certain type, according to that list. That's like saying Keith Urban can't be country because he's from Australia. kd
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RE: Southern Rock Appreciate Thread - 9/3/2008 4:28:41 PM
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geography doesn't necessary make a band a certain type No, it doesn't necessarily, but some of those artists are far from any kind of rock. C'mon, James Taylor? Janis Joplin? Let's get serious.
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RE: Southern Rock Appreciate Thread - 9/3/2008 4:30:55 PM
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Janis Joplin was from Port Arthur, Texas, so she was a southern girl.
I guess the question remains--what defines a group as "Southern Rock"? Style, geography? If style, what style, exactly, is "Southern Rock?" If geography, is it where you were born, where you were raised, or where you first got your start?
Or is it all in the eye of the beholder?
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RE: Southern Rock Appreciate Thread - 9/3/2008 4:33:11 PM
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So, geography doesn't necessary make a band a certain type, according to that list. That's like saying Keith Urban can't be country because he's from Australia. kd
I guess I agree with you about the geography part, they must consider the style of music or what influenced them. I don't agree with some on the list, but wasn't Janis from Texas, I may be wrong, and she would be maybe southern blues?
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RE: Southern Rock Appreciate Thread - 9/3/2008 10:03:43 PM
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Janis Joplin was from Port Arthur, Texas, so she was a southern girl.
I guess the question remains--what defines a group as "Southern Rock"? Style, geography? If style, what style, exactly, is "Southern Rock?" If geography, is it where you were born, where you were raised, or where you first got your start?
Or is it all in the eye of the beholder?
The following is MY opinion...ONLY...based on being a southern rock fan...
I believe "southern rock" is first of all...SOUTHERN...it's a fusion of country, bluegrass, rock, jazz and blues...
Skynyrd's double lead guitar is a hall mark (later used by the Eagles).
The songwriting...the songs are more like stories...
And...they just flat out ROCK...
But that's just my southern redneck/hippie opinion :)
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RE: Southern Rock Appreciate Thread - 9/4/2008 2:00:49 AM
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Here's the general description of the genre from an article on Southern Rock on Wikipedia.com
"Southern rock is a subgenre of rock music. It developed in the Southern United States from rock and roll, country music, and blues, and is focused generally on electric guitar and vocals."
The reason it gets its name is from the fact that originated in the south, but what makes it distinct is how it blends country, rock 'n' roll, and blues and the focus on certain instruments and sounds.
So just because someone is from the south (say Texas or Oklahoma) doesn't necessarily make them Southern Rock musicians. Conversely just because a band or singer is from say Canada or California doesn't mean they AREN'T Southern Rock.
Like uncabeeil said, some of those artists on that list like James Taylor and Janis Jopin don't fit the Southern Rock genre at all, but not because of where they're from.
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RE: Southern Rock Appreciate Thread - 9/4/2008 8:21:31 AM
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Southern rock, to me, is at least two lead guitars with a third playing rhythm, lots of piano, and a vocalist that sound like he (or she) gargled with Jack Daniels. It helps if one of the guitar leads plays some slide. Skynyrd is definitely the benchmark.
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RE: Southern Rock Appreciate Thread - 9/4/2008 1:19:57 PM
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I would put the Allman Bros as the benchmark. (back when Duane and Berry were still alive) I have always loved the guitar duets done by Duane and Dickey. Their new guy - Derek Trucks - is really good too.
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RE: Southern Rock Appreciate Thread - 9/9/2008 12:16:44 PM
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LOL!!! Southern part of Canada!
Speaking of this, I just found a new Southern Rock band called "Cross Canadian Ragweed." I've been listening to them most of the day. I'm QUITE impressed!
Their song "Fighting For" is one of their best.
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RE: Southern Rock Appreciate Thread - 9/11/2008 2:36:32 AM
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I grew up with Southern Rock as my soundtrack for life.
Skynyrd was my favorite but I also listened to a ton of Molly Hatchet, The Outlaws, Danny Joe Brown Band, Atlanta Rhythm Section, Rossington Collins Band, Charlie Daniels Band, .38 Special and some Allmans.
I was a Skynyrd fan through and through and even got to play with the band live on the radio in 1991, but I hardly listen to the stuff any more.
The term "Southern Rock" is a bit of a misnomer, although it did become a sort-of sub-genre of rock. The guys in Skynyrd would say in interviews that they preferred the term "rock from the south" as they were more influenced by English bands like the Rolling Stones and Cream than by their non-Yankee culture and locale.
Still, the marketing folks thought that the Confederate Battle Flag would make a nice back-drop...
Lest anyone think that the guitar playing in Skynyrd is "repetitive and bad", I challenge you to learn to play a few of their songs correctly.
Most people I've come across in 28 years of playing can't even correctly play the intro to "Sweet Home Alabama", much less anything else.
While both Allen Collins and Gary Rossington formed much of their solos from basic pentatonic scales, they usually were well crafted solos that fit the song as perfectly as a violin solo in a Bach piece. Then you have guitarist Ed King and, his replacement, Steve Gaines; each was a powerhouse player with few peers back in the day.
Leon Wilkeson's bass playing was, like the guitarists, under-rated and, again, often incorrectly reproduced by most every bassist I've ever come across.
Who am I kidding...I'm still a fan.
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RE: Southern Rock Appreciate Thread - 9/11/2008 10:24:25 PM
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One more band that hasn't been mentioned...Head East...
"save my life I'm going down for the last time..."
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RE: Southern Rock Appreciate Thread - 9/11/2008 10:37:34 PM
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One more band that hasn't been mentioned...Head East...
"save my life I'm going down for the last time..."
NDY
Also Point Blank. They were a semi-legit Southern Rock band and had a pretty big hit in the early '80s with "Nicole"
The first verse and chorus are:
I hear you're goin' through some changes
I hear your friends all turn their backs on you
And now you're hangin' round with strangers
Now just be careful who you're talkin' to
Oh Nicole, my sweet Nicole
Oh Nicole, sweet sweet Nicole
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