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RE: McCain's VP choice Palin - 9/5/2008 6:18:43 PM
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FreddieD
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Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin seems to be John McCain's pick for V.P. and I'm thrilled.
It takes a Republican to turn the U S government into a joke.
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RE: McCain's VP choice Palin - 9/5/2008 6:44:10 PM
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It takes a Republican to turn the U S government into a joke.
Wow, what an insightful and thought provoking post....now do you have anything of SUBSTANCE to add to the discussion, or is this as deep as you swim?
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RE: McCain's VP choice Palin - 9/5/2008 7:03:43 PM
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FreddieD
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Wow, what an insightful and thought provoking post....now do you have anything of SUBSTANCE to add to the discussion, or is this as deep as you swim?
Sure do.
Don't let them insult your intelligence.
And you can provide the reasons why Mc Cain pick this person to be a VP without being political. I mean give me real reasons and not just wishful thinking.
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RE: McCain's VP choice Palin - 9/5/2008 7:23:18 PM
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Jhud
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Sure do.
Don't let them insult your intelligence.
And you can provide the reasons why Mc Cain pick this person to be a VP without being political. I mean give me real reasons and not just wishful thinking.
Education via youtube is an insult to everyone's intelligence.
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RE: McCain's VP choice Palin - 9/5/2008 7:26:53 PM
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Welcome aboard Freddie! Now Good Luck!
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RE: McCain's VP choice Palin - 9/5/2008 7:28:58 PM
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See what I mean Freddie? You can't win Bro. However you like anyone else here has a right to share your opinion.
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RE: McCain's VP choice Palin - 9/5/2008 7:29:22 PM
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Sure do.
Don't let them insult your intelligence.
And you can provide the reasons why Mc Cain pick this person to be a VP without being political. I mean give me real reasons and not just wishful thinking.
Education via youtube is an insult to everyone's intelligence.
I just love this.
All of a sudden we get a truck load of new posters and what do they contribute;
-record number of new threads about irrelevant topics
-record number of posts (look at the date joined vs number of posts - 300+ in a week or two; wow!)
-youtube vidoes to prove that their possitions are correct
-claims that they aren't democrats nor do they support NObama but everything they post is anti-McCain and Palin bashing.
Very telling if yo ask me.
Word of advice to all the newbies, if you want to make your opinions known that's fine but try to at least back up you presumptions with at least somewhat factual or credible references.
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RE: McCain's VP choice Palin - 9/5/2008 7:49:31 PM
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FreddieD
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See what I mean Freddie? You can't win Bro. However you like anyone else here has a right to share your opinion.
SMIB
And how do you define winning?
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RE: McCain's VP choice Palin - 9/5/2008 7:54:25 PM
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Jhud
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See what I mean Freddie? You can't win Bro. However you like anyone else here has a right to share your opinion.
Yeah, perhaps you two can collaborate since there seems to be a lot in common.
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RE: McCain's VP choice Palin - 9/5/2008 7:55:55 PM
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It is no wonder that the GOP has not tried to play up Mr. Palin's Native ancestry, nor sought to interview any Native Alaskans about Gov. Palin or her husband. If the Dem's wanted to go after the Palins, that would be the way to do it.
Thank you PHW for that info, I was certainly looking for it. That is how we tell a good leader, by how the treat the poor among them.
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RE: McCain's VP choice Palin - 9/5/2008 7:59:44 PM
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Knock it off.
Focus on the topic, not with sniping at each other.
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RE: McCain's VP choice Palin - 9/5/2008 8:01:57 PM
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FreddieD
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Word of advice to all the newbies, if you want to make your opinions known that's fine but try to at least back up you presumptions with at least somewhat factual or credible references.
Why don’t you quit your ad hominem and start looking at some facts. For one she didn’t know what the job of the VP and wanted someone to explain it to her before she excepted the position. Try the US Constitution.
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RE: McCain's VP choice Palin - 9/5/2008 8:59:47 PM
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letusreason
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ORIGINAL: FreddieD
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ORIGINAL: tafkam
Wow, what an insightful and thought provoking post....now do you have anything of SUBSTANCE to add to the discussion, or is this as deep as you swim?
Sure do.
Don't let them insult your intelligence.
And you can provide the reasons why Mc Cain pick this person to be a VP without being political. I mean give me real reasons and not just wishful thinking.
FreddieD
FreddieD, I've always referred to the UTOOB generation as the reading comprehensionally challenged and you are proving me right.
How about this 'one', uno, singular reason...
The video is not accurate on the "Bridge to nowhere" issue but people that can only watch the video like say,,, a SpongeBob show, won't know that, only people who can READ articles can.
The video says "Governor Palin" supported it and implies she supported it after her saying no thanks where as reality is exactly the opposite.
SHE WASN'T EVEN GOVERNOR when she sought to implement it but AFTER BECOMING governor and EXAMINING IT MORE CLOSELY like a shrewd person would, she decided against it. SO SHE WAS TELLING THE TRUTH!
So in essence these videos which are made by young guys living at home in their mom's basements are insulting your intelligence by lieing. And if that was a lie, I would bet money on the rest of it being false , fabricated, distorted, out of context, or misleading for the purpose of personal destruction.
But give yourself a pat on the back for posting a link to do your personal assinating! that takes a lot of talent , thought, and skill {smirk} {smirk}
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RE: McCain's VP choice Palin - 9/5/2008 9:11:59 PM
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Jhud
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Why don’t you quit your ad hominem and start looking at some facts. For one she didn’t know what the job of the VP and wanted someone to explain it to her before she excepted the position. Try the US Constitution.
Do you believe every carefully edited video you see on youtube?
I mean how many times do you watch that tripe a day?
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RE: McCain's VP choice Palin - 9/5/2008 11:05:44 PM
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StephK
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Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin seems to be John McCain's pick for V.P. and I'm thrilled.
It takes a Republican to turn the U S government into a joke.
FreddieD
I don't think you remember Jimmy Carter's term.
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RE: McCain's VP choice Palin - 9/5/2008 11:26:23 PM
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Word of advice to all the newbies, if you want to make your opinions known that's fine but try to at least back up you presumptions with at least somewhat factual or credible references.
Why don’t you quit your ad hominem and start looking at some facts. For one she didn’t know what the job of the VP and wanted someone to explain it to her before she excepted the position. Try the US Constitution.
FreddieD
Because as I have shown oh so many times before these YouTube videos are edited, misleading and most of the time false. The one where she asks about the VP is cut right after her response. It doesn't show the complete conversation. That alone should throw up a red flag.
I can show you a YouTube video of NObama and Hillary kissing full on the mouth. Does that make it real? Does that mean that Barack is having an affair with Hillary?
Or how about NObama's statement about having been to 57 states and still has 3 to go. Do you really believe NObama thinks we have 60 states?
I can go on and on with this but I'm tire of hashing this tired old garbage.
And truth be told I firmly believe that some other forum such as the Daily Kos or some other liberal trash rag probably asked their posters to come over her and start flooding the boards. That was the reasoning behind my previous post.
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RE: McCain's VP choice Palin - 9/6/2008 1:02:50 AM
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FreddieD
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I don't think you remember Jimmy Carter's term.
Was Sarah Palin his choice too?
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RE: McCain's VP choice Palin - 9/6/2008 1:56:04 AM
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I can show you a YouTube video of NObama and Hillary kissing full on the mouth.
Please, please don't.
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RE: McCain's VP choice Palin - 9/6/2008 2:02:02 AM
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FreddieD
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FreddieD, I've always referred to the UTOOB generation as the reading comprehensionally challenged and you are proving me right.
How about this 'one', uno, singular reason...
The video is not accurate on the "Bridge to nowhere" issue but people that can only watch the video like say,,, a SpongeBob show, won't know that, only people who can READ articles can.
The video says "Governor Palin" supported it and implies she supported it after her saying no thanks where as reality is exactly the opposite.
SHE WASN'T EVEN GOVERNOR when she sought to implement it but AFTER BECOMING governor and EXAMINING IT MORE CLOSELY like a shrewd person would, she decided against it. SO SHE WAS TELLING THE TRUTH!
How can you say that with a straight face?
If you can READ articles as you claimed you do than explain this article by The Anchorage Daily News: Palin touts stance on 'Bridge to Nowhere,' doesn't note flip-flop
"I told Congress, thanks but no thanks on that bridge to nowhere," Palin told the cheering McCain crowd, referring to Ketchikan's Gravina Island bridge.
But Palin was for the Bridge to Nowhere before she was against it
The Alaska governor campaigned in 2006 on a build-the-bridge platform, telling Ketchikan residents she felt their pain when politicians called them "nowhere."
Meanwhile, Weinstein noted, the state is continuing to build a road on Gravina Island to an empty beach where the bridge would have gone -- because federal money for the access road, unlike the bridge money, would have otherwise been returned to the federal government.
After canceling the bridge she kept the money. If you don’t like that article, I have another one:
USATODAY: Palin backed 'bridge to nowhere' in 2006
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ORIGINAL: letusreason
So in essence these videos which are made by young guys living at home in their mom's basements are insulting your intelligence by lieing. And if that was a lie, I would bet money on the rest of it being false , fabricated, distorted, out of context, or misleading for the purpose of personal destruction.
But give yourself a pat on the back for posting a link to do your personal assinating! that takes a lot of talent , thought, and skill {smirk} {smirk}
That SpongeBob whom you are referring to happens to be a professor at an university teaching Constitutional Law.
Now brush up on your reading.
FreddieD
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RE: McCain's VP choice Palin - 9/6/2008 2:24:59 AM
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FreddieD
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Because as I have shown oh so many times before these YouTube videos are edited, misleading and most of the time false. The one where she asks about the VP is cut right after her response. It doesn't show the complete conversation. That alone should throw up a red flag.
Or is it a red flag should they disagree with you?
There are many authors, some more honorable than others. But you shouldn’t paint all with a single brush. Do your research and come up with a specific reason why you disagree less I assume that they are telling the truth.
Freddie
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RE: McCain's VP choice Palin - 9/6/2008 10:21:13 AM
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letusreason
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FreddieD, I've always referred to the UTOOB generation as the reading comprehensionally challenged and you are proving me right.
How about this 'one', uno, singular reason...
The video is not accurate on the "Bridge to nowhere" issue but people that can only watch the video like say,,, a SpongeBob show, won't know that, only people who can READ articles can.
The video says "Governor Palin" supported it and implies she supported it after her saying no thanks where as reality is exactly the opposite.
SHE WASN'T EVEN GOVERNOR when she sought to implement it but AFTER BECOMING governor and EXAMINING IT MORE CLOSELY like a shrewd person would, she decided against it. SO SHE WAS TELLING THE TRUTH!
How can you say that with a straight face?
Because like I said before, the video does not include the FACT that she wasn't even governor when she was "for it" so how in the world could she know everything it entailed and the state's fiscal situation??? The video said "GOVERNOR Palin" as if she WAS GOVERNOR when she was "for it".
You call that a flip flop? Which the video didn't do, it implied she lied, and you are not even addressing that. Why not? first it was a lie now its a flip flop? making up your character assinating mind!
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After canceling the bridge she kept the money.
She kept the money , in her personal account I take it?
Also, from your expertise and knowledge on this subject, tell me how many others (governors) give money back to Washington. Or are you just singleing her out for political reasons? Thought so.
Now here are the facts you need brushing up on .
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After taking office and examining the project closely, she consistently opposed funding the ‘Bridge to Nowhere’ and ultimately canceled the wasteful project.”
and from your USAToday article you left out:
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McAlister said he was unaware of the details of Wasilla's earmarks. But, he added, "As mayor of the city, her charge was very different than it is now. She's obviously taking a much broader look at things as governor."
That is so evident it was not a flip flop but an exercise in gaining knowledge and making a better decision based on the broader outlook. Are you dense?
Did you note that word "consistantly" ???? Funny how a story has a word in it stating her position as governor as consistant and you decide to spread a lie out over the longer span of her life when she wasn't governor. Why is that?
Why is it you don't want to address all of OBAMA's flip flops that occurred WHILE HE WAS A BABY SENATOR? Funny how you don't see the difference between a non-governor decision and a sitting Senator don't cha think?
Your silly little video and fuzzy selectable facts are totally transparent to your agenda and lack of reason and logic.
But of course, your barak colored glasses will keep you seeing what you want to see I'm sure.
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RE: McCain's VP choice Palin - 9/6/2008 10:24:09 AM
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letusreason
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Because as I have shown oh so many times before these YouTube videos are edited, misleading and most of the time false. The one where she asks about the VP is cut right after her response. It doesn't show the complete conversation. That alone should throw up a red flag.
Or is it a red flag should they disagree with you?
There are many authors, some more honorable than others. But you shouldn’t paint all with a single brush. Do your research and come up with a specific reason why you disagree less I assume that they are telling the truth.
Freddie
You post a youtube video and tell someone else to do their research? Little bit of a hypocrite aren't you? You have already been given a reason why those college-kid videos are totally worthless. Let me guess, you think wikipedia is a repudable site for knowledge and info too lol.
To say some are more honorable than others is like saying there are some episodes of South Park more honorable than others. Its entertainment for people who don't like ( or have trouble ) reading, why is that a concept that eludes you? How old are you?
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RE: McCain's VP choice Palin - 9/6/2008 12:38:14 PM
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