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RE: Halloween 2008 - 10/10/2008 12:04:02 PM
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Lapidoth
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1 Timothy 4:1 (don't "follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons")
2 Corinthians 6:14-17 ("what fellowship can light have with darkness?")
1 Corinthians 10:31 ("whatever you do, do everything for the glory of God")
1 Corinthians 11:1 ("follow the example of Christ") I wonder if He ever celebrated Halloween or samhin?
1 Corinthians 10:31 ("whatever you do, do everything for the glory of God")
Romans 13:12 ("put aside the deeds of darkness and put on the armor of light.")
Ephesians 6:11-18 ("take your stand against the devil's schemes.")
1 Thessalonians 5:21-22 ("Test everything. Hold on to the good. Avoid every kind of evil.")
James 1:27 ("keep oneself from being polluted by the world")
1 Corthians 10:21 Ye cannot drink the cup of the Lord, and the cup of devils: ye cannot be partakers of the Lord's table, and of the table of devils.
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I think Halloween is a fun time for kids to get to dress up and pretend to be something else....(who doesn't want to be a super hero) of course there are the weirdoes out there who treat Halloween as something evil but those people are not doing anything but ruining it for the rest of us
I guess one of the weirdoes is the word then.... but knowing what I know I would NOT partake in the worlds so called holiday if u can call it that and yes as a child I did go house to house and do the things "trick or treat" but I grew up and found out what it is really all about and now I would NOT allow my soul spirit or body that is to be the vessel of the most holy God to go out in to the worlds sinful night......
but I guess like John says John 3:19-20 (people love darkness instead of light).......I shall take a stand and say to John and to Jesus "NOT I LORD" I love you more than this so called holiday...
I'd rather have it ruin than to lose a soul due to the wickedness of the night
Superduck, there are many who share your views.
And I am one who recognizes that to side on the side of Scripture is not an opinion.
But, we do live in the day that so much is just dismissed as "well, that's your opinion."
As John says, "When we know the truth, the truth will set us free."
But, until then, grats to your attitude to continually pray for the rest.
I notice that about all of Paul's writings. He continually prays for everyone.
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RE: Halloween 2008 - 10/10/2008 12:32:18 PM
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psalm867
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I'd be interested for those who disagree with me to respond to my post 308 and the Scripture I posted.
I didn't notice a question, sorry.
I have a friend who used to be satanist, is now a Christian, and says that when he walks into a store this time of year and sees all the decorations he literally gets sick to his stomach.
I see nothing but things that glorify horror, suffering, and death.
Deuteronomy 30:19
This day I call heaven and earth as witnesses against you that I have set before you life and death, blessings and curses. Now choose life, so that you and your children may live.
I also like the verses:
Test everything. Hold on to what is good.
Avoid every kind of evil"
(1 Thessalonians 5:21,22)
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"Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them."
(Ephesians 5: 11)
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RE: Halloween 2008 - 10/10/2008 11:06:16 PM
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phosadaud
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ORIGINAL: Lapidoth
And I am one who recognizes that to side on the side of Scripture is not an opinion.
But, we do live in the day that so much is just dismissed as "well, that's your opinion."
I know you aren't saying that the rest of us aren't siding with Scripture just because we disagree with how to apply Scripture to Halloween because that would be really arrogant and demeaning. 
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I didn't notice a question, sorry.
I have a friend who used to be satanist, is now a Christian, and says that when he walks into a store this time of year and sees all the decorations he literally gets sick to his stomach.
I see nothing but things that glorify horror, suffering, and death.
Deuteronomy 30:19
This day I call heaven and earth as witnesses against you that I have set before you life and death, blessings and curses. Now choose life, so that you and your children may live.
I also like the verses:
Test everything. Hold on to what is good.
Avoid every kind of evil"
(1 Thessalonians 5:21,22)
and
"Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them."
(Ephesians 5: 11)
I appreciate you responding, but that actually doesn't respond to my post and the challenges in my post. The problem is that while I would agree with those Scriptures, I don't agree with how you are applying them to Halloween. I'm not celebrating darkness by carving a silly face on a pumpkin or dressing up as a princess.
In addition, we need to be cautious in judging something as bad simply because there is a small segment of the world who has or currently does evil in it's name. The fact is, the devil twists everything that God created and all that God created was good. Paul tells folks it's ok to eat meat sacrificed to idols. Why would he if someone perverting something made that thing unclean and evil? I mean, the entire reason that meat was on the market was because someone used it for pagan reasons and yet Paul didn't seem distressed by that. Why?
To me, it all boils down to - don't throw the baby out with the bathwater.
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RE: Halloween 2008 - 10/11/2008 12:17:26 AM
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Superduck77
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Superduck, your bio says that your location is "the other side of the pond". Does that mean that you are in Europe?
Naw am in Texas at the moment the other side of the pond means the other side of the mississippi river lol born and raised in usa in Texas to let you know a bit more about me Grinz Have a wonderful day
Thanks for asking
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RE: Halloween 2008 - 10/11/2008 8:16:21 AM
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Qtman
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Qtman, why do you use an avatar that promotes a satanic festival?
I was asked the above question in another thread. Since it would be off topic in that thread I will respond here.
According to the calendar currently in use there are 365 days in a year. That equates to 8760 hours or 525,600 minutes or 31,536,000 seconds. I serve a Mighty God. He created every one of those seconds. He allows me to use those seconds. Therefore I choose to celebrate each and every one of them. I am not saying satan is not powerful but his power is nothing compared to the power and might of God. Satan can't take a single second from God and I refuse to let him take anything away from me. There is not a day in the year that some misinformed and even evil group od people did not have some kind of pagan celebration.
But, those people are the ones that tried to steal a day from God. Just because they used a day to celebrate false gods does not mean I can't use that same day. If you choose to let satan rob you of a day that is up to you. But I will not let him or his people take a single day away from me. God gave those days to me and through his grace and kindness they are mine and satan can't have them.
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RE: Halloween 2008 - 10/11/2008 8:20:28 AM
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armydude
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Someone actually asked you such an inane question?
Why doesn't that surprise me?
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RE: Halloween 2008 - 10/11/2008 8:24:56 AM
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Qtman
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They did Dude. I responded briefly in that thread. THen I thought about my response and decided it was snarky so I posted it in the snarky thread also. I thought I might get nudged about it but instead I got snars.
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RE: Halloween 2008 - 10/11/2008 9:03:14 AM
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Superduck77
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But, those people are the ones that tried to steal a day from God
NO am not trying to steal a day from God I do agree that He gives us all the days for they are given by His mercy....
BUT.... it is what we do with and in them that promotes things now am not saying we r sinless people by fars means we r sinners saved by grace...and all have fallen short incl. me
but to go out and to pretake in things its like saying well a little sin does no harm or does it ?
am not holier than thou..... says that bc i know its coming i am humbled by my King of kings and know what He saved me from... which is what halloween and or samhain is all about witchcraft or the craft as to say it right...
do we drop our armour like king saul done and seek out the things call up the dead and such or how about the baal worshipers do we do as they done dance around a fire and cry out to false gods or do we take a stand....
i asked this in one of my post and it has yet to be addressed "I wonder if Jesus ever celebrated halloween or samhain?" and yes it is was around when He walked the earth.....i will say this no He didnt
Just a bit of knowledge on the subject read this and choose http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halloween
Ya know if i could say what i have seen on the said night not only in the woods but also on the streets of my town the things following people seeking them out....i say to you all it is real... they are real and they dont play nice you said (qtman its the people trying to rob no its not its the spirits that walk that time that steal and rob and i have seen them do so) just realize whom it is all for....and give God glory instead
< Message edited by Superduck77 -- 10/11/2008 9:13:25 AM >
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RE: Halloween 2008 - 10/11/2008 9:51:03 AM
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Qtman
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My friend I have about as muc knowledge on the subject as anyone on here. And if you want to quote a reliable source of information for me to use you will have to do better than wikipedia. I cannot celebrate a satanic holiday because satan does not own a holiday. God owns them all. Why can't you people get it?
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RE: Halloween 2008 - 10/11/2008 10:06:53 AM
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You can steal a day from God? Now there's a new one.
Truthfully, I'm annoyed by "harvest festivals" and the like that churches have to...combat...Halloween or whatever they're doing. If you don't agree with Halloween, IGNORE IT. I think it makes it look like churches are trying to compete with something they don't believe in.
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RE: Halloween 2008 - 10/11/2008 10:12:17 AM
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Qtman
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I fear I have been misquoted. I did not say we could steal a day from God. I said the exact opposite. What I said was satan and his people tried to steal a day from God and they can't and I refuse to let them steal a day from me either.
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RE: Halloween 2008 - 10/11/2008 10:14:23 AM
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themoodyexperience
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You can steal a day from God? Now there's a new one.
Truthfully, I'm annoyed by "harvest festivals" and the like that churches have to...combat...Halloween or whatever they're doing. If you don't agree with Halloween, IGNORE IT. I think it makes it look like churches are trying to compete with something they don't believe in.
Half of me has always thought that too. Then the other half thinks it's fun for the kids and such. So the jury's still out for me on harvest festivals.
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RE: Halloween 2008 - 10/11/2008 10:20:23 AM
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stellaluna
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But if the point is to keep your kid from celebrating the holiday, then don't.
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RE: Halloween 2008 - 10/11/2008 11:16:32 AM
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Kath
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You can steal a day from God? Now there's a new one.
Truthfully, I'm annoyed by "harvest festivals" and the like that churches have to...combat...Halloween or whatever they're doing. If you don't agree with Halloween, IGNORE IT. I think it makes it look like churches are trying to compete with something they don't believe in.
Do you suppose that is similar to how Christmas and Easter supposedly got started? You know, all that info about how both days were evil or days that heathens celebrated in one way or another and Christians tried to make it into something else?
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RE: Halloween 2008 - 10/11/2008 12:00:08 PM
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well we do not do halloween in our family and everytime i voice my opinion everyone always asked me if we are jehovahs witness? NOT, we do celebrate everything but.......this night this night is very evil and the history is not good at all, i am a Scot and well my ancestors were a part of past of this awful nite. and it's satan's nite as well, we do not even make excuses to buy candy and it's not a nite to be passive either. so its not a good nite.
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RE: Halloween 2008 - 10/11/2008 12:09:57 PM
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ORIGINAL: stellaluna
You can steal a day from God? Now there's a new one.
Truthfully, I'm annoyed by "harvest festivals" and the like that churches have to...combat...Halloween or whatever they're doing. If you don't agree with Halloween, IGNORE IT. I think it makes it look like churches are trying to compete with something they don't believe in.
Many churches are just trying to offer a fun alternative for kids and many use Halloween as a time of outreach to the communities.
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RE: Halloween 2008 - 10/11/2008 12:19:41 PM
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armydude
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well we do not do halloween in our family and everytime i voice my opinion everyone always asked me if we are jehovahs witness? NOT, we do celebrate everything but.......this night this night is very evil and the history is not good at all, i am a Scot and well my ancestors were a part of past of this awful nite. and it's satan's nite as well, we do not even make excuses to buy candy and it's not a nite to be passive either. so its not a good nite.
How can a night be evil? Just like the concept of money being the root of all evil. It's a tool, nothing more. People can be evil. Days are not evil. Nights are not evil.
The concept of an "evil night" is not correct.
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RE: Halloween 2008 - 10/11/2008 12:36:29 PM
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stellaluna
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ORIGINAL: stellaluna
You can steal a day from God? Now there's a new one.
Truthfully, I'm annoyed by "harvest festivals" and the like that churches have to...combat...Halloween or whatever they're doing. If you don't agree with Halloween, IGNORE IT. I think it makes it look like churches are trying to compete with something they don't believe in.
Many churches are just trying to offer a fun alternative for kids and many use Halloween as a time of outreach to the communities.
That's my point. Do churches really need a fun alternative? If you believe Halloween is evil, and dressing up and trick or treating is wrong...why would you move it into the church? And by using it as outreach, all you're doing is telling your community that Halloween is okay as long as you celebrate at your church. If you think it shouldn't be celebrated, then don't celebrate at all. You can have a harvest festival or fall carnival or whatever anytime you want between Sept. 20 and Dec. 20.
As for Christmas and Easter, I don't know enough about their histories to speculate.
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RE: Halloween 2008 - 10/11/2008 12:46:30 PM
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armydude
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Great minds Phosy?
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RE: Halloween 2008 - 10/11/2008 12:54:28 PM
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armydude
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OOOO!!! Darth Pumpkin!
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When my children were younger, I sure would have liked to have had that book for 4-7 year olds explaining why we don't celebrate halloween 
