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RE: 'Fireproof" - 10/2/2008 2:17:42 PM
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I personally did not see that much bad acting in it, a lot less than facing the giants. The georgia accents are still there of course, but to me it adds a sense of realism too it.
That's cause we're so used to hearing "bad" southern accents by actors/actresses who are not from the south portraying people are are. 
Bad accents...that could be ONE ENTIRE discussion thread right there...
My wife can't STAND them....as she is from FAR south lousiana (How far south? English really is a "second language" for her)....and, whenever she sees a show or movie that is supposed to be from that area, the people's so-called "Cajun" accents are HORRIBLE (or, so she says....Iam from Detroit...so, i really have no idea)
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RE: 'Fireproof" - 10/2/2008 2:32:19 PM
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DH and I went to see it last night. We enjoyed very much. There was funny, exciting, sad, and touching. I thought the acting was good too.
Here's a little trivia that I saw in a magazine that impressed DH:
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In the kissing scene toward the end in the firehouse when the wife comes to reconcile with Kirk where it's dim and you can't really see them. Kirk is actually kissing his wife in real life. How neat is that 
Yep - we saw Kirk at a Way of the Master conference a few months beforehand and he was answering questions as to why he does not do more acting and having to kiss someone other than his wife was the top reason.
Back to accents...I love the YaYa Sisterhood Movie, but to listen to these actresses who are no more southern than the Queen of England - my ears hurt afterward.
I'm so sorry you're from Detroit  my dh is from Boston. you poor guys...
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RE: 'Fireproof" - 10/2/2008 3:41:07 PM
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Lisa, you was raised right is all I can say 
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RE: 'Fireproof" - 10/2/2008 3:46:08 PM
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Connie,
I try, but sometimes people think I'm stupid because of my accent.  That ever happen to you?
Maybe the reason Facing the Giants wasn't as painful to watch as it seemed to be for some others is because I actually KNOW people like those in the film, and yes, those accents sound real.
Hey, I'm not really Southern. I'm Texan, but my parents are not originally from Texas but from a "Southern" state, so I claim it by way of heritage.
BTW, I despise most Texas accents I hear in movies. They are absurd. I also hate the way Dallas is usually portrayed. It is not like what you usually see in movies. Dr. T and the Women is about the worst I've ever seen as far as stereotypes, and the show Dallas was not indicative of Dallas at all. We all thought it would bomb. Good thing I don't produce tv shows for a living.
Back to topic.
I do look forward to Fireproof, but I must admit I don't have expectations of it being slicked up like a usual Hollywood production. But it can't ever be as bad as the old Billy Graham films.
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RE: 'Fireproof" - 10/2/2008 3:46:23 PM
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I'm so sorry you're from Detroit my dh is from Boston. you poor guys...
I have a brother-in-law from Cleveland. I've often told him how sorry I am that he's not Southern. He told me he got to the South as quickly as he could. Now he's back in Cincinnati -- but not by choice.
Hey, I'm just kidding. People are people, and yes, there are wonderful places outside the South. But I can't help it that I'm partial.
WELL, originally from Detroit (born and grew up there, but, job opportunities there weren't great...and, ended up getting a job elsewhere after college)
I DID go to Art School at Cincinnati (I LOVED it there...).....
as I mentioned, my wife is from far south Louisiana.....
but, we've been here in Dallas for 12 years .....and LOVE IT...
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RE: 'Fireproof" - 10/2/2008 3:52:26 PM
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kernsfamily,
I like Cincinnati. It is a beautiful area and the people are very down to earth.
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RE: 'Fireproof" - 10/2/2008 3:56:51 PM
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I do look forward to Fireproof, but I must admit I don't have expectations of it being slicked up like a usual Hollywood production. But it can't ever be as bad as the old Billy Graham films.
Oh My! I remember some of those...and you're right! They were pretty bad.
When the Cross and the Switchblade came out, we thought that was some cutting edge stuff. Pat Boone and Ponch on the same screen.
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RE: 'Fireproof" - 10/2/2008 7:42:41 PM
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Well, a few more user reviews have popped up on IMDB, which I tend to trust more than critics because these are comments from regular folk like you and me. And most of the reviews are positive.
But for some reason the movie is still only ranking a 3.9 out of possible 10 stars (with 93 votes cast thus far....).
I would still have expected far more input on the IMDB site, especially given the pre-release hype this film has enjoyed in the Christian community...
Atheists are trying to flood IMDB's rating for this film with "1-star" votes. They just surpassed the "10-star" votes today after starting out with less than 50.
To all: If you are so inclined, please help out the movie by rating it up at IMDB:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1129423/ratings
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RE: 'Fireproof" - 10/2/2008 7:45:39 PM
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Bad accents...that could be ONE ENTIRE discussion thread right there...
My wife can't STAND them....as she is from FAR south lousiana (How far south? English really is a "second language" for her)....and, whenever she sees a show or movie that is supposed to be from that area, the people's so-called "Cajun" accents are HORRIBLE (or, so she says....Iam from Detroit...so, i really have no idea)
I think the worst attempts at accents I've ever seen/heard were in that film with Jeff Bridges as Bostonian (either a fire fighter or a policeman) and Tommy Lee Jones as an Irish terrorist.
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RE: 'Fireproof" - 10/2/2008 7:52:53 PM
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I think Tony Curtis still wins the prize for worst accent in some movie he made where he was a knight. Can't remember the name. But it takes place in England and Tony still had his Bronx accent a bit and practically said dees, dem and dose.
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RE: 'Fireproof" - 10/2/2008 8:10:05 PM
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Spoiler:
In the kissing scene toward the end in the firehouse when the wife comes to reconcile with Kirk where it's dim and you can't really see them. Kirk is actually kissing his wife in real life. How neat is that
This is so cool!!! This part really bothered my wife, I'm so glad He did this. I wish a lot more actors did this, I think this is the number 1 Reason Hollywood is so messed up. How can you have a love scene with another person and not feel something? That is why you see so many break ups and then get together's with someone else they did a movie with. CRAZY!
You'd be surprised (or maybe not) how many atheists criticized him for that. Of course, if he had kissed his co-star, we all know they'd have complained about that, too.
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RE: 'Fireproof" - 10/2/2008 8:45:18 PM
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Spoiler:
In the kissing scene toward the end in the firehouse when the wife comes to reconcile with Kirk where it's dim and you can't really see them. Kirk is actually kissing his wife in real life. How neat is that
This is so cool!!! This part really bothered my wife, I'm so glad He did this. I wish a lot more actors did this, I think this is the number 1 Reason Hollywood is so messed up. How can you have a love scene with another person and not feel something? That is why you see so many break ups and then get together's with someone else they did a movie with. CRAZY!
You'd be surprised (or maybe not) how many atheists criticized him for that. Of course, if he had kissed his co-star, we all know they'd have complained about that, too.
LOL, you sure are right, someone will always complain, I'm so glad he follows God and not People! To me this is the BEST thing I have heard about Movies in a long Time!
I so want to watch it again now, just to see the ending, Can you tell if you are looking for it???
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RE: 'Fireproof" - 10/2/2008 10:19:34 PM
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My husband and I saw Fireproof yesterday. The movie was very inspirational and it's message was very clear. It's a movie for any couple to see whether there is an issue in their relationship or not. My Pastor has some copies of the book "The Love Dare" which plays a key role in the movie. We plan on getting a copy.
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RE: 'Fireproof" - 10/3/2008 9:30:43 AM
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Well, a few more user reviews have popped up on IMDB, which I tend to trust more than critics because these are comments from regular folk like you and me. And most of the reviews are positive.
But for some reason the movie is still only ranking a 3.9 out of possible 10 stars (with 93 votes cast thus far....).
I would still have expected far more input on the IMDB site, especially given the pre-release hype this film has enjoyed in the Christian community...
Atheists are trying to flood IMDB's rating for this film with "1-star" votes. They just surpassed the "10-star" votes today after starting out with less than 50.
Question: How do you know they are "ATHEISTS"?
Does giving a "1 star" vote equate "Atheist"???
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RE: 'Fireproof" - 10/3/2008 10:09:09 AM
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I think this is the number 1 Reason Hollywood is so messed up. How can you have a love scene with another person and not feel something?
Um, easy. Trying kissing someone else with about 20 crew members with cameras and microphones pressing in on your space to capture the scene on film. Ask any actor or actress and they'll tell you, stage or screen kisses are about the most awkward and UNromantic thing anyone can do, and they aren't usually that enjoyable.
Kudos to Kirk for using his wife in that scene, but c'mon guys, onscreen kisses just aren't that big of a deal....
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RE: 'Fireproof" - 10/3/2008 10:59:32 AM
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I think this is the number 1 Reason Hollywood is so messed up. How can you have a love scene with another person and not feel something?
Um, easy. Trying kissing someone else with about 20 crew members with cameras and microphones pressing in on your space to capture the scene on film. Ask any actor or actress and they'll tell you, stage or screen kisses are about the most awkward and UNromantic thing anyone can do, and they aren't usually that enjoyable.
Kudos to Kirk for using his wife in that scene, but c'mon guys, onscreen kisses just aren't that big of a deal....
You are so wrong about this, yes kissing is not the same as a sex scene, but is still plays with peoples emotions big time, Even on camra. Now A fast kiss is different from a long kiss, we don't need to go into all this...., but relationship's are made and broken everyday in Hollywood because of this. (mostly sex scenes though). Look at all the Actors that get together with someone they have had a scene with, and dump there spouse. Now they are not Christian, but the same will happen to Christians if they do this.
To do wrong just because you are making a movie does not make it right. I know I would never allow my wife to have a sex scene or a long kissing scene with another guy, and anyone who would needs to watch Fireproof because something is broken in that marriage?
Yes, some actors stay together with a spouse after doing this, but that does not make it right. Many people live in sin everyday and think everything is ok. Until one day they wake up and say Wow, something is broken here?
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RE: 'Fireproof" - 10/3/2008 12:58:29 PM
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but relationship's are made and broken everyday in Hollywood because of this. (mostly sex scenes though).
While there are people like Jack Nicholson or Nick Nolte who have pursued relationships with some of thier leading ladies, overall I think you're dead wrong. I just don't see that many headlines about lead actors and actresses from a given film running off together.
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To do wrong just because you are making a movie does not make it right. I know I would never allow my wife to have a sex scene or a long kissing scene with another guy, and anyone who would needs to watch Fireproof because something is broken in that marriage?
Hardly. It's acting. It's playing a part, and I can guarantee that is how the VAST majority of actors and actresses view it. Contrary to your apparently simplistic beliefs, they are not a bunch of bunny rabbits running around looking to se who they can hop on on the next movie or stage set. I've done a little with film, but a lot with stage work, and I've talked with actresses about their kissing scenes. To a person, they have assured me that it means NOTHING. As opposed to romantic, it is more often awkward, embarrassing, and no fun at all.
I hate to burst your stereotyping, but...
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RE: 'Fireproof" - 10/3/2008 1:28:18 PM
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but relationship's are made and broken everyday in Hollywood because of this. (mostly sex scenes though).
While there are people like Jack Nicholson or Nick Nolte who have pursued relationships with some of thier leading ladies, overall I think you're dead wrong. I just don't see that many headlines about lead actors and actresses from a given film running off together.
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To do wrong just because you are making a movie does not make it right. I know I would never allow my wife to have a sex scene or a long kissing scene with another guy, and anyone who would needs to watch Fireproof because something is broken in that marriage?
Hardly. It's acting. It's playing a part, and I can guarantee that is how the VAST majority of actors and actresses view it. Contrary to your apparently simplistic beliefs, they are not a bunch of bunny rabbits running around looking to se who they can hop on on the next movie or stage set. I've done a little with film, but a lot with stage work, and I've talked with actresses about their kissing scenes. To a person, they have assured me that it means NOTHING. As opposed to romantic, it is more often awkward, embarrassing, and no fun at all.
I hate to burst your stereotyping, but...
You are not bursting any bubbles... and it's not stereotyping...
I will take it your not Married? I have never talked to a Christian Married man or woman that thought this was ok. I'm not saying they are not out there, This world has a big mix of people who think all kinds of ways, You would be the first I have talked to who thinks this would be ok to have his wife do this. (You really need to see this movie), But Remember, we are not talking about a small kiss, we are talking a kissing scene (long) or sex scene. I don't remember what it was in this movie? I think it was more on the shorter side?
Facts don't lie, I did not say they go looking for it or want it to happen, I just said it happens a lot in Hollywood, if you don't believe this there is no point in going on...
"My simplistic beliefs" Your kidding Right, this has nothing to do with me, this is what the bible teaches, but that does not mean much to most these days. People just set aside the bible and do what they want.
Hey, if you do see the movie, let us know what you think? Even with my simplistic beliefs, (which I thank God for), I like to know what others think of movies. I'm all about getting Christian movies out to people, I don't make them, I just like to spread the word for those who do.
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RE: 'Fireproof" - 10/3/2008 2:09:01 PM
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Actually, I am married, but I've also been around the arts community enough to know what I'm talking about. I've never met an actor who was turned on or otherwise tempted into an illicit relationship because of a kiss onstage. Sorry. It's just not the norm.
If my wife was an actress, and the scene called for a kiss, big deal. I know where her devotion is, and I'm not threatened by it.
What do you think about gynecologists? Men, often times married, who choose a career that has them examining a woman's most intimate areas every day. Yet we think nothing of that. It's perfectly acceptable. Because they are professionals and we know they are not doing this out of any form of lust.
Likewise for actors. They are professionals doing a job. Nothing more, nothing less. To say a Christian can't be involved in a kissing scene because it might lead to something else is like saying Christians shouldn't work in offices because they might get involved in an inter-office romance. Do you hear how dumb this argument begins to sound when you apply it to "normal" jobs?
But a kiss between two fictional characters, by actors and actresses with no emotional connection is bad? Give me a break...
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RE: 'Fireproof" - 10/3/2008 2:34:37 PM
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Do you hear how dumb this argument begins to sound when you apply it to "normal" jobs?
Yes I do, because this is the way you take everything, You have to apply it where it does not apply.
This has nothing to do with anything you are saying, like normal.
Again, I said a Quick Kiss is different, we are not talking about just a kiss, but a Long Kissing Scene. A long kissing scene is not just a long hold with a peck to the lips, there is always something more.
So we are clear, Do You think it is ok for your wife to have a sex scene with another person or a Long Kissing scene where they are all over each other, (do I have to spell it out)? And your wife would be ok if you did this to another woman?
I know you like to aruge with everything on this board, it's just what you do. That's ok, I can see some of your points sometimes, and I like to see what others think because most of the time there is no one right answer. But I don't understand you trying to say that a Christian doing this is ok?
Well, I guess we should start another topic, Because this is not the right place?
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RE: 'Fireproof" - 10/3/2008 3:21:16 PM
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Extramile, personal attacks like those in your last post will get you booted from these forums if you keep it up. Just thought you should be warned since you're still new here.
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