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RE: Introducing.... - 8/21/2008 11:36:44 PM
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ORIGINAL: ljmac Have you guys noticed that the Obama brother who lives in a shack made out of garbage is being called "half brother," by some Obama apologists? It's a transparent attempt to diminish BO's indifference to his brother's suffering. Yet by the same people, and BO himself, he's called black, when he's just as much half black as he is half brother. Maybe we should revise Matthew 25:40 "And the king will answer them, ‘I tell you half of the truth, just as you did half as much for one of the least of these half brothers or half sisters of mine, you did it half as much for me.’" Does this let half Brother Barak off the hook?... anyone? I wish I had written that!
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RE: Introducing.... - 8/22/2008 9:35:56 AM
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Shawn Hannity has requested the address of the half-brother so as to send him a check for one thousand dollars. Compassionate conservatism at work again. I really wish someone would do B. Hussien Obama's family tree with all the half brothers, sisters, and who or whatever else is out there. Thanks RC
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RE: Introducing.... - 8/22/2008 9:54:14 AM
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ORIGINAL: rcjames Shawn Hannity has requested the address of the half-brother so as to send him a check for one thousand dollars. Compassionate conservatism at work again. I really wish someone would do B. Hussien Obama's family tree with all the half brothers, sisters, and who or whatever else is out there. Thanks RC Shawn (sic) Hannity has apparently never read the part about the widow's mite, or the other one about 'when giving alms, do not proclaim it as the Pharisees do, but do not let your left hand know what your right is giving. " LATER - here's the passage: "Jesus adds to this stark image still another: we should be so secretive in giving that we should not let our left hand know what our right hand is doing (6:3; 1 Cor 4:3-5). " Hannity's 'offer' is a transparent grandstanding move, about what I would expect of him.
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RE: Introducing.... - 8/22/2008 9:55:16 AM
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What does it matter if George ignores Barry? George has no political clout in the world. The point I am making, if you will be so gracious as to permit me, is that rich, important American running for President chooses to allow his half brother to live in squalor. I know that won't satisfy you and you will come back with some really clever "gotcha," so go ahead, give it your best shot. You aren't the first to do so, and you probably won't be the last. -Dave quote:
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ORIGINAL: davemiller7 What you are saying about some blood relatives being not exactly family is probably true, however if one is running for President, you had better have your relatives and family counted and ready for at least some scrutiny. It doesn't look good to have someone living like George, being ignored by the guy running for the highest office in the land, spouting Scripture, when it's convenient and telling Americans that they aren't doing their part to alleviate world hunger and poverty. That's called hypocrisy! -Dave quote:
ORIGINAL: huangshan I think there are going to be plenty of people who have the understanding that some blood relatives aren't exactly family. Now, to be sure that I understand you - are you claiming that B Obama ignores his half-brother, that the half-brother G Obama ignores B, or that both of them have chosen to ignore each other?
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RE: Introducing.... - 8/22/2008 10:02:28 AM
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ORIGINAL: SwedishCovenant Hannity's 'offer' is a transparent grandstanding move, about what I would expect of him. Call it what you will, it sure beats what B. Hussein Obama (who made 4 million dollars last year) has ever done for his flesh and blood. But of course the guy cannot vote so he does not matter to the 'Chosen One". Thanks RC
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RE: Introducing.... - 8/22/2008 10:05:44 AM
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Yes, I've noticed that the Obamessiah hardly mentions that he is half white. He always emphasizes that he is black, though. Now if George happened to be a white half brother, Obamessiah would be more consistent, but George is black. That's even harder to reconcile. Hmmmmmmmmm. -Dave quote:
ORIGINAL: ljmac Have you guys noticed that the Obama brother who lives in a shack made out of garbage is being called "half brother," by some Obama apologists? It's a transparent attempt to diminish BO's indifference to his brother's suffering. Yet by the same people, and BO himself, he's called black, when he's just as much half black as he is half brother.
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RE: Introducing.... - 8/22/2008 12:41:52 PM
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ORIGINAL: rcjames Shawn Hannity has requested the address of the half-brother so as to send him a check for one thousand dollars. Compassionate conservatism at work again. I really wish someone would do B. Hussien Obama's family tree with all the half brothers, sisters, and who or whatever else is out there. Thanks RC Shawn (sic) Hannity has apparently never read the part about the widow's mite, or the other one about 'when giving alms, do not proclaim it as the Pharisees do, but do not let your left hand know what your right is giving. " LATER - here's the passage: "Jesus adds to this stark image still another: we should be so secretive in giving that we should not let our left hand know what our right hand is doing (6:3; 1 Cor 4:3-5). " Hannity's 'offer' is a transparent grandstanding move, about what I would expect of him. "Transparent grandstanding" will help Obama's destitute brother much more than calloused indifference.
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RE: Introducing.... - 8/22/2008 12:59:45 PM
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Shawn (sic) Hannity has apparently never read the part about the widow's mite, or the other one about 'when giving alms, do not proclaim it as the Pharisees do, but do not let your left hand know what your right is giving. " LATER - here's the passage: "Jesus adds to this stark image still another: we should be so secretive in giving that we should not let our left hand know what our right hand is doing (6:3; 1 Cor 4:3-5). " And apparently Barak has never read James: James 2:15-16 If a brother or sister is without clothing and in need of daily food, and one of you says to them, "Go in peace, be warmed and be filled," and yet you do not give them what is necessary for their body, what use is that?
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RE: Introducing.... - 8/22/2008 1:17:49 PM
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The ONLY facts that are relevant are: 1. Barak Obama is wealthy. 2. His brother is destitute and living in squalor. What more needs to be said? Exactly.
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RE: Introducing.... - 8/25/2008 12:14:19 AM
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The ONLY facts that are relevant are: 1. Barak Obama is wealthy. 2. His brother is destitute and living in squalor. What more needs to be said? Exactly. Really? http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/us_elections/article4583353.ece quote:
He said that he was furious at subsequent reports that he had been abandoned by the Obama family and that he was filled with shame about living in a slum. “It seems there are people who want to destroy me and my family,” he said. “They say I live on a dollar a month, but this is all lies by people who don’t want my brother to win.” He said that he was supported by his mother, Jael, who now lives in the US, and by a cousin in Huruma. The Obama family in Kenya watched with dismay as the campaign in the US turned increasingly negative. Reporters have tried to prove that Barack Obama is a secret Muslim and have tracked down friends of his father, portrayed as a drunk and abusive husband. Now they are worried that a careless comment in Kenya could have repercussions thousands of miles away. George is the youngest of Barack’s seven half-brothers and sisters. He was born to Barack Obama Sr’s fourth partner, six months before his father died in a car crash. Yesterday, over a simple lunch of barbecued goat and fistfuls of thick maize porridge, George admitted that he knew little about his famous half-brother. “People keep asking questions, but I have met him only twice and I can’t speak about what kind of man he is,” he said. “Many people don’t know about my connection,” he continued, dipping a greasy hunk of goat in salt before popping it into his mouth. “If people ask about my name I tell them we are not related. The problem here is that people have expectations and think I would look after them.” Kenyan politics is synonymous with corruption and MPs are expected to shower cash and development projects on their home villages.
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RE: Introducing.... - 8/25/2008 12:51:28 AM
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The ONLY facts that are relevant are: 1. Barak Obama is wealthy. 2. His brother is destitute and living in squalor. What more needs to be said? Exactly. Really? http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/us_elections/article4583353.ece quote:
He said that he was furious at subsequent reports that he had been abandoned by the Obama family and that he was filled with shame about living in a slum. “It seems there are people who want to destroy me and my family,” he said. “They say I live on a dollar a month, but this is all lies by people who don’t want my brother to win.” He said that he was supported by his mother, Jael, who now lives in the US, and by a cousin in Huruma. The Obama family in Kenya watched with dismay as the campaign in the US turned increasingly negative. Reporters have tried to prove that Barack Obama is a secret Muslim and have tracked down friends of his father, portrayed as a drunk and abusive husband. Now they are worried that a careless comment in Kenya could have repercussions thousands of miles away. George is the youngest of Barack’s seven half-brothers and sisters. He was born to Barack Obama Sr’s fourth partner, six months before his father died in a car crash. Yesterday, over a simple lunch of barbecued goat and fistfuls of thick maize porridge, George admitted that he knew little about his famous half-brother. “People keep asking questions, but I have met him only twice and I can’t speak about what kind of man he is,” he said. “Many people don’t know about my connection,” he continued, dipping a greasy hunk of goat in salt before popping it into his mouth. “If people ask about my name I tell them we are not related. The problem here is that people have expectations and think I would look after them.” Kenyan politics is synonymous with corruption and MPs are expected to shower cash and development projects on their home villages. Really. From your own source: "The muddy lanes and rickety shacks of Huruma slum are known for their poverty, disease and outbreaks of gang violence — but for Barack Obama’s half-brother it is the place he calls home." "He said that he was supported by his mother, Jael, who now lives in the US, and by a cousin in Huruma." Barak Obama lives in a multi-million dollar home. His brother lives in a slum.
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RE: Introducing.... - 8/25/2008 1:07:06 AM
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Is there something wrong with living in a million-dollar home now? I think you're projecting a bit of an entitlement complex on George. I think that this bit: He said that he was furious at subsequent reports that he had been abandoned by the Obama family and that he was filled with shame about living in a slum. “It seems there are people who want to destroy me and my family,” he said. “They say I live on a dollar a month, but this is all lies by people who don’t want my brother to win.” He said that he was supported by his mother, Jael, who now lives in the US, and by a cousin in Huruma. The Obama family in Kenya watched with dismay as the campaign in the US turned increasingly negative. Reporters have tried to prove that Barack Obama is a secret Muslim and have tracked down friends of his father, portrayed as a drunk and abusive husband. Now they are worried that a careless comment in Kenya could have repercussions thousands of miles away. George is the youngest of Barack’s seven half-brothers and sisters. He was born to Barack Obama Sr’s fourth partner, six months before his father died in a car crash. ...is a strong indicator that people are making a lot of hay about a guy who doesn't want the attention and is content where he is. If nothing else, it's a sign that this line of attack is extremely inappropriate, as the "victim" doesn't view himself as such, and notes the problem of acknowledgment by his half-brother (Kenyans that know about the connection will be asking for a handout).
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RE: Introducing.... - 8/25/2008 8:25:28 AM
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Sounds like a typical bunch of spin the Democrat/socialist media is putting out in an effort to ward off negative news of their Obamessiah. I don't think there is any "entitlement" for George. George, apparently isn't begging his famous brother for money, nor is he saying he is entitled to any. It is Barack, the Obamessiah we are having issues with. And if you will read the Bible, you'll find we are commanded to care for our families. Check out I Timothy 5:8 and Matthew 25:40. It's pretty clear and doesn't require any interpretation or political spin. -Dave quote:
ORIGINAL: huangshan Is there something wrong with living in a million-dollar home now? I think you're projecting a bit of an entitlement complex on George. I think that this bit: He said that he was furious at subsequent reports that he had been abandoned by the Obama family and that he was filled with shame about living in a slum. “It seems there are people who want to destroy me and my family,” he said. “They say I live on a dollar a month, but this is all lies by people who don’t want my brother to win.” He said that he was supported by his mother, Jael, who now lives in the US, and by a cousin in Huruma. The Obama family in Kenya watched with dismay as the campaign in the US turned increasingly negative. Reporters have tried to prove that Barack Obama is a secret Muslim and have tracked down friends of his father, portrayed as a drunk and abusive husband. Now they are worried that a careless comment in Kenya could have repercussions thousands of miles away. George is the youngest of Barack’s seven half-brothers and sisters. He was born to Barack Obama Sr’s fourth partner, six months before his father died in a car crash. ...is a strong indicator that people are making a lot of hay about a guy who doesn't want the attention and is content where he is. If nothing else, it's a sign that this line of attack is extremely inappropriate, as the "victim" doesn't view himself as such, and notes the problem of acknowledgment by his half-brother (Kenyans that know about the connection will be asking for a handout).
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RE: Introducing.... - 8/25/2008 8:46:47 AM
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ORIGINAL: davemiller7 Sounds like a typical bunch of spin the Democrat/socialist media is putting out in an effort to ward off negative news of their Obamessiah. I don't think there is any "entitlement" for George. George, apparently isn't begging his famous brother for money, nor is he saying he is entitled to any. It is Barack, the Obamessiah we are having issues with. And if you will read the Bible, you'll find we are commanded to care for our families. Check out I Timothy 5:8 and Matthew 25:40. It's pretty clear and doesn't require any interpretation or political spin. -Dave I don't see how going against his half-brother's wishes is caring for him. George Obama is content, and according to the article, isn't willing to accept help from his brother. I'm not sure where the controversy is, beyond George Obama indicting people for giving life to and spreading lies about him and his half-brother.
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RE: Introducing.... - 8/25/2008 8:58:12 AM
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I don't see how going against his half-brother's wishes is caring for him. George Obama is content, and according to the article, isn't willing to accept help from his brother. I'm not sure where the controversy is, beyond George Obama indicting people for giving life to and spreading lies about him and his half-brother. George is content because he is receiving help from both his mother and a cousin. He is not self sufficient and I read no where in the article you quote from where George says he would not accept help fro brother Barak.
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RE: Introducing.... - 8/25/2008 9:24:18 AM
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I don't see how going against his half-brother's wishes is caring for him. George Obama is content, and according to the article, isn't willing to accept help from his brother. I'm not sure where the controversy is, beyond George Obama indicting people for giving life to and spreading lies about him and his half-brother. George is content because he is receiving help from both his mother and a cousin. He is not self sufficient and I read no where in the article you quote from where George says he would not accept help fro brother Barak. Ah, fair enough, I was guilty of projecting too. Reading too much into "If people ask about my name I tell them we are not related. The problem here is that people have expectations and think I would look after them". Still, if George wants people to drop it (my understanding of “It seems there are people who want to destroy me and my family” and “They say I live on a dollar a month, but this is all lies by people who don’t want my brother to win”), I think it behooves people to stop using him as a political attack.
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RE: Introducing.... - 8/25/2008 9:29:41 AM
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Then without letting the left hand know what the right hand is doing the brother might just want to add to what George's mother and cousin are doing. That just might be the right thing to do, don't you think?
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RE: Introducing.... - 8/25/2008 9:40:11 AM
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ORIGINAL: stamper_ben Then without letting the left hand know what the right hand is doing the brother might just want to add to what George's mother and cousin are doing. That just might be the right thing to do, don't you think? I'm not sure how that is necessary, given the information in the article. But... But, if we're assuming the left hand won't necessarily know, maybe Barack Obama is doing that already and they're keeping everything hush-hush. Maybe. I don't know, maybe not. But, I think what is likely is that it's none of our business, given the aforementioned quotes about lies by politically interested parties and what others in the community think.
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RE: Introducing.... - 8/25/2008 9:48:13 AM
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ORIGINAL: stamper_ben Then without letting the left hand know what the right hand is doing the brother might just want to add to what George's mother and cousin are doing. That just might be the right thing to do, don't you think? I'm not sure how that is necessary, given the information in the article. But... But, if we're assuming the left hand won't necessarily know, maybe Barack Obama is doing that already and they're keeping everything hush-hush. Maybe. I don't know, maybe not. But, I think what is likely is that it's none of our business, given the aforementioned quotes about lies by politically interested parties and what others in the community think. Of course it is none of our business, but that point of common courtesy is lost on those determined to bash Obama no matter what.
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RE: Introducing.... - 8/25/2008 10:10:16 AM
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ORIGINAL: stamper_ben Then without letting the left hand know what the right hand is doing the brother might just want to add to what George's mother and cousin are doing. That just might be the right thing to do, don't you think? I'm not sure how that is necessary, given the information in the article. But... But, if we're assuming the left hand won't necessarily know, maybe Barack Obama is doing that already and they're keeping everything hush-hush. Maybe. I don't know, maybe not. But, I think what is likely is that it's none of our business, given the aforementioned quotes about lies by politically interested parties and what others in the community think. Of course it is none of our business, but that point of common courtesy is lost on those determined to bash Obama no matter what. The "bashing" started with Obama accusing the American public of the great moral failure of not "caring for the least of these". So, let me see if I understand, the presumptive Democrat nominee can point his finger accusing America of a great moral failure, quoting the Bible in the process... yet the fact that his brother lives in squalor while he lives in a multi-million dollar mansion is none of our business? Think again! Any candidates words can and should be compared with his actions. If Obama had not been preaching to us on this issue, then you might have a point... but the fact is that OBAMA opened this issue up. If he (and his supporters) are upset by the reaction after the exposure of Brother George's condition... well that's just too bad!
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RE: Introducing.... - 8/25/2008 11:13:42 AM
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ORIGINAL: Dubya The "bashing" started with Obama accusing the American public of the great moral failure of not "caring for the least of these". So, let me see if I understand, the presumptive Democrat nominee can point his finger accusing America of a great moral failure, quoting the Bible in the process... yet the fact that his brother lives in squalor while he lives in a multi-million dollar mansion is none of our business? Think again! Any candidates words can and should be compared with his actions. If Obama had not been preaching to us on this issue, then you might have a point... but the fact is that OBAMA opened this issue up. If he (and his supporters) are upset by the reaction after the exposure of Brother George's condition... well that's just too bad! Given the articles, I'm not sure what the controversy is at this point.
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RE: Introducing.... - 8/25/2008 11:17:09 AM
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ORIGINAL: stamper_ben Then without letting the left hand know what the right hand is doing the brother might just want to add to what George's mother and cousin are doing. That just might be the right thing to do, don't you think? I'm not sure how that is necessary, given the information in the article. But... But, if we're assuming the left hand won't necessarily know, maybe Barack Obama is doing that already and they're keeping everything hush-hush. Maybe. I don't know, maybe not. But, I think what is likely is that it's none of our business, given the aforementioned quotes about lies by politically interested parties and what others in the community think. Of course it is none of our business, but that point of common courtesy is lost on those determined to bash Obama no matter what. The "bashing" started with Obama accusing the American public of the great moral failure of not "caring for the least of these". So, let me see if I understand, the presumptive Democrat nominee can point his finger accusing America of a great moral failure, quoting the Bible in the process... yet the fact that his brother lives in squalor while he lives in a multi-million dollar mansion is none of our business? Think again! Any candidates words can and should be compared with his actions. If Obama had not been preaching to us on this issue, then you might have a point... but the fact is that OBAMA opened this issue up. If he (and his supporters) are upset by the reaction after the exposure of Brother George's condition... well that's just too bad! And yet no one has made the slightest attempt to actually refute the validity of Obama's actual statements - in which, just in case you chose to forget, he included himself - which makes one wonder: why not? Is it because you cannot refute the validity and your argument is reduced to trying to change the subject?
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RE: Introducing.... - 8/25/2008 12:26:52 PM
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I think the problem is that normal people are expecting liberals to have the same compassion, care and sympathy for others that we do. Let's not forget these are the same people who: - Killed 50 million unborn and partially born. - Nominated Al Gore, a man who bragged about being a tobacco farmer after his sister died of smoking related lung cancer. - Supported Al Gore after he booted a poor sick family out of his disrepaired renal property. - Nominated Al Gore after it was revealed that while he was VP he gave less than $1000 to charity in at least one year. - Couldn't wait to starve Mary Schaivo to death. That tightwad BO has a brother living in a diseased filled slum and has done nothing for him, is simply normal among liberals.
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