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Christians Drinking Wine (Moderately) is Wrong
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RE: Christians Drinking Wine (Moderately) is Wrong - 8/14/2008 8:15:45 PM
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SonInMe1
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I have found that one drink is one drink too many for me. I've tried all ways...a lot and moderation and very little...and none works.
If you drink around me, no doubt it will tug at me but its up to me to do it or not. You...cannot....make....me....sin. The choice would be mine.
Do I think others should drink? No. Do I tell them they are sinful? No. I don't know if it is a sin for them or not.
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RE: Christians Drinking Wine (Moderately) is Wrong - 8/14/2008 8:51:22 PM
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Covaan_Meshuga
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I see nothing wrong with drinking in moderation, if one doesn't have an addiction or physical problem. What I can't understand is people who like it! Grrrross!
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RE: Christians Drinking Wine (Moderately) is Wrong - 8/14/2008 9:03:47 PM
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Qtman
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I see nothing wrong with drinking in moderation, if one doesn't have an addiction or physical problem. What I can't understand is people who like it! Grrrross!
I understand this statement. I can't stand the taste of wine or beer. Well with the exception of a couple of German wines and beers then only the one over there not what you can buy here. I did however have a fondness for good bourbon once upon a time.
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RE: Christians Drinking Wine (Moderately) is Wrong - 8/14/2008 11:14:15 PM
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MindySue69
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I can understand not liking the taste - Just like I can not stand the taste of milk, or coffee with sugar in it, or tea with milk in it..or the taste of liver.
The fact that it IS a stumbling block for unbelievers as well as believers is the reason why I drink my wine in the privacy and comfort of my home. I have nothing to prove to anyone by drinking it out in public; I know that it will upset many people. I have nothing to hide either....
It does bug me though that alcohol has this horrible taboo attached to it, when other things don't get much attention (i.e., eating lots of junk food, which will be much worse for your body than one or two glasses of wine...heck the wine is supposed to be good for your heart. lol)
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RE: Christians Drinking Wine (Moderately) is Wrong - 8/15/2008 2:32:31 AM
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Hayseed
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The fact that it IS a stumbling block for unbelievers as well as believers...
It CAN be, it's not a fact that it IS.
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RE: Christians Drinking Wine (Moderately) is Wrong - 8/15/2008 7:35:50 AM
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P31W
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I was thinking about this. My son is 20 and has been completely on his own a few months after he turned 18. To be honest with you I am glad that I raised him in a home that was alcohol free. I don't have any regrets. In his home we find no alcohol meaning he will probably raise our grandchildren (five 5oys we hope -  ) in a home free of alcohol. I am glad to know that.
I know many of you don't think it's important or silly and maybe don't understand why I am glad about this but speaking "for me" - I am. I have no regrets and am glad to know that my son does not drink alcohol either.
We both have coffee pots in our home. But if we overindulge it's not really a big deal. (my nephew didn't go to prison for DUI Manslaughter because he had coffee in his system)
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RE: Christians Drinking Wine (Moderately) is Wrong - 8/15/2008 8:53:00 AM
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Good for you on the alcohol free home but I have also seen this: a family that protected their daughter from the darker side of life and when she got out on her own, sampled many of the sins that she had been protected from. She went a bit overboard IMHO and it wouldn't surprise me if it broke her parents' hearts.
I know a gentlman who never had a drink because there is a history of alcoholism in his family and he simply does not want to risk it. I can honor that.
Watch a few episodes of COPS and you can see how stupid folks get on too much booze.
That being said, we still enjoy the occassional glass of wine when we are home for the night and are not going out anywhere.
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RE: Christians Drinking Wine (Moderately) is Wrong - 8/15/2008 8:56:27 AM
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P31W
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a family that protected their daughter from the darker side of life and when she got out on her own, sampled many of the sins that she had been protected from.
Are you saying that having alcohol in your home is "the darker side of life"?
That is what I am reading from you. Do you believe that those of us who don't drink are "over-protective parents".
Having an alcholol free homes does not mean one is an overprotective parent. My son was given more freedom than most kids I know. But then again he never gave us reason to not trust in his ability to make wise decisions.
He also grew up in an affair free, illegal drug free and abuse free home.
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sampled many of the sins that she had been protected from.
ROFL what "sins" do you believe we should exposed our son to in our home committed by his fahter and I?
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LOL you really have kinda told on yourslef here. But I don't mind. I use to hold those types of views about "homeschoolers" until I discovered one of my cousins who is very educated, very professional and very un-homebody told me she homeschooled her children. She laughed at me and said "You think homeschoolers wear matching handmade bluejean skirts, no make up and grow their own food". I had to admit that she was correct.
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RE: Christians Drinking Wine (Moderately) is Wrong - 8/15/2008 9:54:58 AM
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Qtman
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I find that most young people who do this are simply going through a rebellious state. It is not at all uncommon for a young person raised in church, in a loving home, etc., to do this. I did.
MindySue I quit drinking for the same reason you don't drink in public. I was singing with various Southern Gospel groups and I did not want my actions to reflect on the ministry because of those who believed alcohol was a sin. I have never believed the consumption of alcohol in and of itself is sinful but there are those that do so I just decided not to drink because of that.
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RE: Christians Drinking Wine (Moderately) is Wrong - 8/15/2008 12:21:33 PM
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P31W
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Was your father the alcoholic?
I ask that because oftentimes if it's the mother the house will be a mess. (and the children will grow up to be cleanies if they don't have a drinking problem)
But if it's the father the mother will try to gain back some control and normalicy by trying to keep everything inorder/clean.
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RE: Christians Drinking Wine (Moderately) is Wrong - 8/15/2008 12:24:25 PM
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MindySue69
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Yes, he was. And he was nasty when he drank. In fact, he was sometimes very violent.
Though sometimes he was slobbery lovey-dovey too. I hated both manifestations. When I was little, I thought he was funny when he was that way - but by the time I I was a pre-teen/teen I detested his drunken behavior, whether it was sappy or violent, as much as my mom did.
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RE: Christians Drinking Wine (Moderately) is Wrong - 8/15/2008 12:44:15 PM
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P31W
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throw her stuff out if it wasn't put away and it was her sister's turn to clean the house
LOL
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RE: Christians Drinking Wine (Moderately) is Wrong - 8/15/2008 1:57:08 PM
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zmanfan38
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I was thinking about this. My son is 20 and has been completely on his own a few months after he turned 18. To be honest with you I am glad that I raised him in a home that was alcohol free. I don't have any regrets.
I made a post on the first page about not being offended by people who drink moderately around me (or not around me...whatever), but I do not drink because I had a problem with alcohol in my late teens and early 20s. That was all before I became a Christian at 23 years old.
The reason I started drinking is because of my horrible home life (had a horrible "mother"). BUT, her liquor cabinet is where I got the opportunity in the first place.
I wanted to make that point to say that if you have teenagers (I know the OP is about a friend...hope this isn't too off topic) who are depressed, whether or not you are the reason for their depression, I would recommend not having any alcohol in the house to keep from providing an opportunity for big(er) problems in their lives...being a stumbling block.
P31W, I'm glad to hear your son didn't grow up like that (bad home life with the addition of alcohol in the house).
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RE: Christians Drinking Wine (Moderately) is Wrong - 8/15/2008 8:56:40 PM
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Being brought up in an alcohol-free home didn't stop me from trying it.
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RE: Christians Drinking Wine (Moderately) is Wrong - 8/16/2008 7:54:05 AM
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Covaan_Meshuga
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Being brought up in an alcohol-free home didn't stop me from trying it.
No me. But the taste was such a turn off. It wasn't worth it.
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RE: Christians Drinking Wine (Moderately) is Wrong - 8/16/2008 8:41:18 AM
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Covaan_Meshuga
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We obviously tasted different things 
I've heard! People have said that before and gave or suggested stuff. Everything, so far, has tasted exceedingly better without the booze. I have no appreciation whatsoever for it, I guess.
I actually worry about when we are with the Messiah, and He hands me wine. I am likely to say, "Do I hafta? Can I just have grape juice? Please?"
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