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TheBibleTRUTH -> The Reason for Creation (8/9/2008 6:32:52 PM)

Hi!, So I've been doing a study / teaching and I wanted to post my findings and also get some input. Thanks for the help and hope you don't mind!

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I'm going to share on God's reason for creating the world and us.

Ephesians 1:3-5

3) Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:
4) According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:
5) Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,

This is a great chunk of scripture, it talks about how we were picked out before the world even began. That means that he knew each and everyone one us before he even created Earth. That is pretty amazing. He also went a step further and preplanned us to be his sons through Christ and he made us holy and without blame.

God knew exactly what was going to happen with the world, he knew each and every person's great heart and he knows who has and will believe in him. He created this plan for sonship even before Adam and Eve screwed up and stained our blood with Sin. It's pretty amazing to think about how much God loves, and thought about us, ages and ages before we were created.

It says he preplanned us unto the adoption (sonship) of children by Jesus Christ before the world began. And in order to do this, he devised a plan to allow us to obtain sonship by his grace. That plan was called the Great Mystery and was revealed to us in depth by the Apostle Paul.

Colossians 1:26-27

26) Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints:
27) To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory:

It says this mystery was hid for ages and ages and from generation to generation, but is now made manifest. The "now", is referring to after the Day of Pentecost, when it was made available to have Christ in you. Since the beginning of time he had this plan to allow us to be Sons.

I John 3:1

1) Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.

This word behold, means to, "wake up" or "pay attention." Then "what manner" means to be in awe, or be in wonder and amazement (the first time it's used is when Jesus Christ calms the storm and the apostles say "behold what manner of man this is..."). We should be amazed that we are the sons of God. That we are in his family and share in the inheritance of heaven.

So why did God make this plan, create the way for us to be sons before we were even born, and made us heirs to the kingdom of God? He must have wanted something. God has everything he could ever want, I mean he's God, but there is one thing he desires above all things, and that is to have a family.

In the Old Testament, he had many names like Jehovah, El Shaddai, Elohim. However, in the New Testament, he doesn't have those names as it was based primarily in Greek. But he does have one occurring title that is used many, many times, and that is Father. See he just wanted to be our Father the entire time, and he just wanted sons to fill his family.

And as his sons he hasn't held anything back from us:

Romans 8:32 - He spared not us only son for us, why wouldn't he freely give us all things
I Corinthians 3:21-22 - All things are yours, both now and to come.
II Corinthians 4:15 - All things are for your sakes.

Creation came about because God wanted a family. He blessed his family by, before time, devising a plan to grant us sonship through Christ. He sent his only begotten Son for our sins so that we could be in his family. How amazing!

I John 4:8-10

8) He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.
9) In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him.
10) Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins.

God's love is greatly manifested in that he sent his Son, Jesus Christ, to be a propitiation (payment) for our sins. This just leaves me in awe. To know that all of creation was for us, that all of the Old Testament prophets prophesying about Christ, Christ's life on Earth and his resurrection; was so that our sins would be washed clean and that most of all, we could be in God's family.

He hasn't held anything back from us, not on Earth, and not in heaven either. He spared not his own Son, he gave us everything on Earth, and he is going to spend all of eternity blessing us as we love him back perfectly.

Ephesians 2:4-7

4) But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us,
5) Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;)
6) And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:
7) That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.

Verse 7 is talking about the ages to come, in heaven, that God will show the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness to us through Christ. He is going to spend eternity showing us the riches of His grace.

Romans 8:17

17) And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.

We are heirs of God! We are also joint-heirs with Christ! Once we get to heaven will be able to fully appreciate everything God has done for us, because we will have the mind of Christ, and will be able to fully comprehend the scope of God's love for us.

Lastly, I want to close with what God's inheritance is, which is a great and amazing truth of the Bible that just leaves me in awe:

Ephesians 1:18

18) The eyes of your understanding being enlightened; that ye may know what is the hope of his calling, and what the riches of the glory of his inheritance in the saints,

God's inheritance is in the saints! His inheritance is every believer that ever got born again and became sons into his family! God, through creation, his actions, and his love towards us proves that he wanted a family to love and to bless for all eternity. Consider yourselves blessed to have a loving God and Creator, and to be in the best possible situation of anyone for all eternity.

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Thanks for any feedback, suggestions, complaints, and threats!

God bless you in the wonderful name of Jesus Christ.




colliefan -> RE: The Reason for Creation (8/9/2008 7:23:34 PM)

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Creation came about because God wanted a family.


But He was in the perfect family. Why should He create the world and then create us who would muck up His perfect creation?




TheBibleTRUTH -> RE: The Reason for Creation (8/9/2008 7:26:08 PM)

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ORIGINAL: colliefan

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Creation came about because God wanted a family.


But He was in the perfect family. Why should He create the world and then create us who would muck up His perfect creation?


Well, our flesh is imperfect, but god is no respecter of persons and our flesh profiteth nothing. Once we get to heaven we will be perfect, much like Christ before us. The focus is primarily on heaven, not this world.

But honestly, part of his kingdom fell because of Satan. Perhaps he wanted to fill those spots? I don't know though, because I can't substantiate that with scripture.




Lapidoth -> RE: The Reason for Creation (8/12/2008 3:16:28 PM)

The truth of the matter will be more wonderful than
we can even imagine.

I did hear an idea once calling it the "Angel Question."
Had to do with the rebellion of Lucifer and God making
a point by creating mankind. I think they sprang off
the "showing Himself through the church."




colliefan -> RE: The Reason for Creation (8/12/2008 10:15:38 PM)

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But honestly, part of his kingdom fell because of Satan. Perhaps he wanted to fill those spots? I don't know though, because I can't substantiate that with scripture.


He created man knowing full well he would be betrayed and the only cure for that betrayal would be to send his Son to die on a cruel Roman cross. I cannit get my frail human mind around that fact.




Theophile2 -> RE: The Reason for Creation (8/15/2008 8:36:54 PM)

TheBibleTRUTH -

You have a great commentary on God's desire to create human beings and His plans for us, to do us good and not harm.

I would offer one thought on the WHY did God do this:

Col 1:16-17 MKJV For all things were created in Him, the things in the heavens, and the things on the earth, the visible and the invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers, all things were created through Him and for Him. (17) And He is before all things, and by Him all things consist.

In other words, all things were created to the Glory of God, even (gasp) sickness:

Jn 9:2-3 "And His disciples asked Him, saying, Master, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind? Jesus answered, Neither has this man nor his parents sinned, but that the works of God might be revealed in him."

Jn 11:3-4 "Then his sisters sent to Him, saying, Lord, behold, he whom You love is sick. When Jesus heard, He said, This sickness is not to death, but for the glory of God, so that the Son of God might be glorified by it."

Why would He do that?

Mt 25:34-40 "Then the King shall say to those on His right hand, Come, blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world. For I was hungry, and you gave me food; I was thirsty, and you gave Me drink; I was a stranger, and you took Me in; I was naked, and you clothed Me; I was sick, and you visited Me; I was in prison, and you came to Me. Then the righteous shall answer Him, saying, Lord, when did we see You hungry, and fed You? Or thirsty, and gave You drink? When did we see You a stranger, and took You in? Or naked, and clothed You? Or when did we see You sick, or in prison, and came to You? And the King shall answer and say to them, Truly I say to you, Inasmuch as you did it to one of the least of these My brothers, you have done it to Me."

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John_O -> RE: The Reason for Creation (9/5/2008 4:24:32 PM)

Nice job TBT!

One part of the question that you didn't answer is "Why did He create us here on earth?"

If God just wanted a family He could have created an infinite number of children already in heaven. Why make us go through this hell called Earth?

We know that we were created for His pleasure

Revelation 4:11 Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.

Now what Gives God pleasure? It must be more than just having Family because He could have done that without Earth.

Here's my take on it:

God wanted someone to love Him.

Deut 6:4 ¶ Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:
5 And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.

This first command is what all the requirements of the law are based on. We are to obey because we love.

Jesus confirms this in Matt 22:34-40.

34 ¶ But when the Pharisees had heard that he had put the Sadducees to silence, they were gathered together.
35 Then one of them, which was a lawyer, asked him a question, tempting him, and saying,
36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
38 This is the first and great commandment.
39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

God commands us first and foremost, to love Him. That is what gives Him the most pleasure

So how does he insure that this happens (Because God always gets what He wants). He could create us in heaven, choicelessly loving Him. Let's explore this for a moment.

We are made in God's image (Gen 1:26). We have the same emotions and basic desires that He does (although ours have been corrupted). The desire to be loved is one of the main motivating factors in mankind (as we see in Gen 2:18).

Let's assume that we could manipulate someone so that they would love us totally, and that they would not know they had been manipulated into loving us. While their love would seem sincere to them, we would know that the only reason they loved us is because we forced them to love us.

It's not very satisfying to have someone's heart just because they have no other choice. Likewise I think it would not be satisfying to God if we loved Him just becuase He made us that way and we had no choice in it. Forced love is not love.

So, Why did God create us here on Earth? I believe it was to give us the opportunity to see how great He is, how worthy of love He is, to see His goodness towards us, and to let us choose of our own will to obey His command and love Him. He gets sincere real love. Nothing forced or artificial about it.

The cost to God of giving us this freedom however is man's rebellion and sin. Some of us will refuse to love Him, and even those of us who do choose to love Him disobey Him at times. Sin itself is an evidence that God was seeking something that required us to have a choice. Otherwise why would He allow something to exist that He is not pleased with?

So God uses this life on Earth to raise up sons and daughters unto Himself that will love Him of their own free will.

(I honestly can't think of another reason why He'd put up with everything He puts up with from us.)




Thessa -> RE: The Reason for Creation (9/5/2008 6:46:06 PM)

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ORIGINAL: colliefan

quote:

Creation came about because God wanted a family.


But He was in the perfect family. Why should He create the world and then create us who would muck up His perfect creation?



It wasnt His intent for Eve to sin.




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