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revbob4God -> Death Row Inmate in Ohio Argues he is too fat to be put to death (8/7/2008 8:21:24 AM)

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/05/us/05brfs-004.html?ref=us

COLUMBUS, Ohio | A death row inmate scheduled for execution says he is too fat to be put to death.

Richard Cooey faces the death penalty for raping and murdering two women in 1986. He claims that executioners would have trouble finding his veins and that his weight could diminish the effectiveness of one of the lethal injection drugs.

Lawyers for Cooey argue in a federal lawsuit that Cooey — 5-feet-7 and 267 pounds — had poor veins when he faced execution five years ago and the problem has been worsened by weight gain.

The lawsuit, which was filed Friday in federal court, also says prison officials have had difficulty drawing blood from Cooey for medical procedures.

Cooey, 41, is scheduled for execution Oct. 14.

His attorneys also say a drug he is taking for migraine headaches could have created a resistance to thiopental, the drug used to put inmates to sleep before two other lethal drugs are administered.

I thought this was interesting and ironic at the same time. Any other views?



stampinlady -> RE: Death Row Inmate in Ohio Argues he is too fat to be put to death (8/7/2008 9:16:22 AM)

Take him off his migrain meds and put in a central line.[8D]



revbob4God -> RE: Death Row Inmate in Ohio Argues he is too fat to be put to death (8/7/2008 9:21:44 AM)

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Take him off his migrain meds and put in a central line.

I can't help but feel offended that taxpayers are funding this argument.



bluestone -> RE: Death Row Inmate in Ohio Argues he is too fat to be put to death (8/7/2008 9:24:26 AM)

This is why I am in favor of beheadings. Guillotines are effective, low cost, and work equally well on everyone.



rcjames -> RE: Death Row Inmate in Ohio Argues he is too fat to be put to death (8/7/2008 9:25:43 AM)

Use a really strong rope.


Thanks
RC



revbob4God -> RE: Death Row Inmate in Ohio Argues he is too fat to be put to death (8/7/2008 9:29:02 AM)

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Use a really strong rope.

RC you just slay me.



mrsrevbob -> RE: Death Row Inmate in Ohio Argues he is too fat to be put to death (8/7/2008 9:40:44 AM)

Cooey, 40, was sentenced to die in 1986 for raping and murdering two University of Akron students.

In September 1986, Cooey, then 19, and his accomplice Clint Dickens, 17, abducted, raped and murdered Wendy Offredo, 21 and Dawn McCreery, 20. The women were headed home when Offredo's car was disabled by a rock thrown by Cooey and Dickens from a bridge over Interstate 77 in West Akron.

I am praying for the souls of these girls, and for the consolation and a sense of closure for their families and loved ones.



colliefan -> RE: Death Row Inmate in Ohio Argues he is too fat to be put to death (8/7/2008 4:16:55 PM)

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I thought this was interesting and ironic at the same time. Any other views?


Bring back Old Sparky from Florida. But libs have problems with fried fat.



SuspenseWriter -> RE: Death Row Inmate in Ohio Argues he is too fat to be put to death (8/7/2008 4:23:07 PM)

A nine-millimeter round costs less than a buck. Park one behind his ear and bury him. I swear, the way "death" penalties get stretched out is laughable.



allisonbrett -> RE: Death Row Inmate in Ohio Argues he is too fat to be put to death (8/7/2008 5:04:14 PM)

You people are terrible! [;)]

The sad part is that this guy is facing his own mortality. I do hope he is saved.

That being said I agree that its unreal that tax $$$ are being spent on such a claim. If its impossible to find a vein thats one thing but we all have veins that can be accessable even if they have to go in the feet. Personally, I have deep veins that roll so drawing blood isn't the most pleasant thing in the world. Gee, so the nurse will have to do a bit of digging to find a vein. Maybe this guy should consider losing a bit of weight before his scheduled execution. It may prove to be less painful if someone doesn't have to dig as much to find a suitable vein in which to administer the drugs that will kill him.

Does that make sense? [8D]



OneJohn410 -> RE: Death Row Inmate in Ohio Argues he is too fat to be put to death (8/7/2008 6:06:30 PM)

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ORIGINAL: allisonbrett

You people are terrible! [;)]

The sad part is that this guy is facing his own mortality. I do hope he is saved.

That being said I agree that its unreal that tax $$$ are being spent on such a claim. If its impossible to find a vein thats one thing but we all have veins that can be accessable even if they have to go in the feet. Personally, I have deep veins that roll so drawing blood isn't the most pleasant thing in the world. Gee, so the nurse will have to do a bit of digging to find a vein. Maybe this guy should consider losing a bit of weight before his scheduled execution. It may prove to be less painful if someone doesn't have to dig as much to find a suitable vein in which to administer the drugs that will kill him.

Does that make sense? [8D]

Digging? Suitable vein? Everything to that point made sense. The situation is look at poor me. I'm a really poor candidate for some lethal injection. If he says he's too robust now, take away his cable TV, just give him two squares, no A/C, and we'll see how you're doing in a month. That right there might be enough.

Either that or SuspenseWriter-style, only two to the body, one to the head.

OneJohn410



ta_mosquito -> RE: Death Row Inmate in Ohio Argues he is too fat to be put to death (8/7/2008 7:47:12 PM)

If they put him on a 1500-1700 calorie diet, he'd lose weight... would that be "cruel and unusual punishment" for a death row in mate?



lightshineon -> RE: Death Row Inmate in Ohio Argues he is too fat to be put to death (8/7/2008 10:00:05 PM)

How does one become obese in prison? Bread and water diet (LOL). Seriously though how?



revbob4God -> RE: Death Row Inmate in Ohio Argues he is too fat to be put to death (8/8/2008 11:46:01 AM)

a congregation member said the man is also on migraine medicine that inhibits the pain killer Ohio gives before the lethal injection. In consideration of the fact that the trial transcript says he beat each of the women close to sixteen times about the head before the acts of torture, rape and strangulation, maybe he needs to know what a REAL BAD HEADACHE feels like



revbob4God -> RE: Death Row Inmate in Ohio Argues he is too fat to be put to death (8/8/2008 11:47:54 AM)

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The sad part is that this guy is facing his own mortality. I do hope he is saved.

Up to this point there is no statement indicating remorse or desire for salvation, but we can only hope it occurs, probably in his case several minutes before the execution



GregandJenny -> RE: Death Row Inmate in Ohio Argues he is too fat to be put to death (8/8/2008 12:38:27 PM)

Put him on a very regimented diet 2 meals a day and no snacks. Prune Juice and water. Exercise him 5 hours a day. He will get to the right weight or he'll literally drop dead trying.

G



JJB1222 -> RE: Death Row Inmate in Ohio Argues he is too fat to be put to death (8/8/2008 2:07:56 PM)

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ORIGINAL: revbob4God

In consideration of the fact that the trial transcript says he beat each of the women close to sixteen times about the head before the acts of torture, rape and strangulation, maybe he needs to know what a REAL BAD HEADACHE feels like


And to think that he just gets to go "nighty nite" before his death with a sleep serum. Shouldn't he feel a little bit of what those girls went through?

Somebody should give 'em another donut and let the beating begin.



ta_mosquito -> RE: Death Row Inmate in Ohio Argues he is too fat to be put to death (8/8/2008 2:45:31 PM)

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And to think that he just gets to go "nighty nite" before his death with a sleep serum. Shouldn't he feel a little bit of what those girls went through?

Somebody should give 'em another donut and let the beating begin.


If he's going to hell, he'll feel a LOT more than what those girls went through.



colliefan -> RE: Death Row Inmate in Ohio Argues he is too fat to be put to death (8/8/2008 5:14:25 PM)

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How does one become obese in prison? Bread and water diet (LOL). Seriously though how?


My experience with prison chow comes from the times I have been involved with Prison Fellowship seminars and during lunch break we ate with the inmates in the chow hall.

Most prison food is heavy on the starches and the inmates get out one hour per day to exercise. The exercise mostly consists of walking around the prison yard so there is little aerobic exercise. And prison food is truly awfull.



JJB1222 -> RE: Death Row Inmate in Ohio Argues he is too fat to be put to death (8/8/2008 5:35:38 PM)

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ORIGINAL: ta_mosquito

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And to think that he just gets to go "nighty nite" before his death with a sleep serum. Shouldn't he feel a little bit of what those girls went through?

Somebody should give 'em another donut and let the beating begin.


If he's going to hell, he'll feel a LOT more than what those girls went through.


That's true...I don't really wish that on anyone, because at that point...there are no second chances. Hopefully he will get saved.



SonInMe1 -> RE: Death Row Inmate in Ohio Argues he is too fat to be put to death (8/8/2008 8:22:08 PM)

I read a book about serial killers and it seems that one sued he should not be hung because he was too fat. He was afaraid of...decapitation.



buckifn -> RE: Death Row Inmate in Ohio Argues he is too fat to be put to death (8/8/2008 8:28:57 PM)

Well what the guy says is true...but who cares? Do I care he is going to suffer a small percent of what his victims suffered? NO.

I believe once you take a life you lose all rights. except the right to die just like your victim/victims did.



MyCatSmokey2006 -> RE: Death Row Inmate in Ohio Argues he is too fat to be put to death (8/8/2008 11:52:20 PM)

Prison inmates almost always make excuses why they shouldn't have to face the consequences of their actions. This one claims he's too fat to be executed. Another case I've heard of claimed that he was too old to be executed. A 5 foot, 100 lb. Nebraska inmate was spared a prison sentence for molesting two children because the female judge felt that he was "too short" to go to prison and would get hurt there. [:@] The list goes on and on.

When I read about these types of cases and other more horrific ones, it makes me glad that I'm not God, because I don't have the capacity to be as merciful as our Heavenly Father. It's time for those bleeding heart liberals to wake up and smell the coffee. Everyone is responsible for the consequences of their actions. Period. That's life. Don't like it? That's too bad. Get used to it.



OneJohn410 -> RE: Death Row Inmate in Ohio Argues he is too fat to be put to death (8/9/2008 1:38:07 AM)

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ORIGINAL: GregandJenny

Put him on a very regimented diet 2 meals a day and no snacks. Prune Juice and water. Exercise him 5 hours a day. He will get to the right weight or he'll literally drop dead trying.

G


I like this nutrition and fitness plan, only one thing is missing. Prisoner eats alone where he can't grab cake from someone else's tray, or rolls, or anything big carbs. Also, make the exercise labor to fix up the prison, not mindless repetitions of weight lifting or such. None of this 'I'm too fat for the injection, too fat for the injection, too fat... yeah."

OneJohn410



Marcus. -> RE: Death Row Inmate in Ohio Argues he is too fat to be put to death (8/9/2008 12:52:51 PM)

How heavy is this guy now?



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