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Church Secretary is a vampire!
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| Ignore it, she is just weird or wants attention |
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| Mention it to the pastor, then run. |
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| Place garlic around the church office |
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| As long as she has great computer skills... |
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| Resist the urge to repeat the information to others |
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| Pray for her |
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| Change churches |
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RE: Church Secretary is a vampire! - 8/7/2008 11:37:19 PM
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Jenny-Fair
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Trust me, she isn't going to suck your blood. They do drink blood, but almost never from unwilling donors, and they don't just pounce on you, ok? Your only concern, as far as I can see, is that you attend a church that doesn't mind having a vampire for a secretary. That would definitely bother me.
Do you know any vampires?
Do they buy blood?
I wonder How much cash could a person make selling untainted blood to vamps? 
It depends on whose blood, many times. And no, I don't know any...that I know of, lol. I just read a lot.
Seriously, though, while what she is doing is wrong, you people need to do more research before proclaiming your ignorance...garlic bulbs at church?  Photosensitivity? She isn't a story-book vampire, she's a regular human who is confused and clearly in need of some healing.
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RE: Church Secretary is a vampire! - 8/7/2008 11:48:40 PM
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I thought we were all kidding about the garlic and stuff. We all were, were we not?
Maybe we should have been more serious, as you are, Jenny-Fair. You are, as usual, a sweetheart.
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RE: Church Secretary is a vampire! - 8/8/2008 1:46:26 AM
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Jenny-Fair
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I guess I figure that since this site comes up near the top in google searches, if someone were embroiled in this type of thing and was looking for help...we really would not be of any use, here, would we?
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RE: Church Secretary is a vampire! - 8/8/2008 1:54:15 AM
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Covaan_Meshuga
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You're right.
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RE: Church Secretary is a vampire! - 8/8/2008 2:53:37 AM
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BTW -- Anybody remember the guy who used to be on these forums that insisted he was a werewolf?
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I mean, as far as I know she does not turn into a bat or anything.
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RE: Church Secretary is a vampire! - 8/8/2008 8:43:51 AM
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Did she work days?
yes she did. No wonder We get called hippocrites.
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RE: Church Secretary is a vampire! - 8/8/2008 9:30:56 AM
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The advantages? I keep them to myself, except when talking privately to other church secretaries and to pastors, because if I let them out of the bag, and some saw them, it would change the situation.  But I'll bet that there are ways of dealing with them as members/employees also. 
I keep thinking I really need to get back into doing that employee handbook. I so dread it. I only have time to work on it during the summer, and summer is over half finished.
Blue probably is not one to just drop her. Ah, she talks , but she's compassionate. It may be hard, but I'd bet this is not the end for her. Here I am, "talking about Blue behind her back."
But I know what you mean about churches. Some of them talk big about being brothers and sisters, but if a member even looks like they are "going toward the door," they write that member off. This young lady, not even a member, has less of a chance with some in the church, probably.
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RE: Church Secretary is a vampire! - 8/8/2008 9:55:00 AM
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Ugh... I probably know a lot more about this subject than I should.
In general, modern-day vampirism has no religious affiliations and no 'cult' ties. It is the delusion that ones body does not produce enough 'life energy' to sustain oneself. In order to remedy this situation, the subject in question will usually take one of two routes.
The first is 'traditional' vampirism. That is, the drinking of blood. This blood will almost occasionally be ones own blood (yes, I know the idea is self-contradictory to the thought that the blood brings 'life energy') or much more commonly the blood of a willing donor. From what I've heard, there are very few instances of actual attacks in order to obtain blood.
The other method is 'energy' vampirism. This is tied in to beliefs of psychicism. Energy vampirism, also known as psychic vampirism, is the belief that one can mentally feed off of the 'life energy' of a healthy person. There are variations on this where the vampire doesn't even need another person to drain, but takes energy directly from the 'ambient energy' of the universe.
While the belief is quite obviously delusional, there can by physical side effects if the vampire stops feeding. Much like a hypochondriac that manifests physical symptoms of a disease they don't have, if the delusion that the vampire 'needs' another's 'life energy' to survive persists, withdrawal can cause lack of energy and sickliness.
The modern day vampire has largely emerged from the newest generation of the gothic subculture. It is an obsession with the Hollywood vampire. That is, the 'dark, hansom, brooding' vampire of today as opposed to the 'rotting satanic OCD corpse' vampire of yesteryear.
In relation to Christianity:
While vampirism is usually tied to belief in psychicism there is usually no attachment to demonic worship. It is simply a person with a delusion. As it is a delusion, it is usually a belief that is held with certainty, is unchangeable, and not impossible to falsify to the person in question. In this it is like any other delusion, say, a flat-earth believer. There is usually no harm in the belief (aside from the incisions made in a donor [note: the donor is usually the one that opens the wound]) and no noticeable effect on the persons life. In most respects, they are normal people. They are simply normal people who hold strange beliefs.
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RE: Church Secretary is a vampire! - 8/8/2008 10:08:03 AM
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The British eat blood pudding.
Whether it is a vampire cult or football cult, my question would be how a member of any cult could be a Christian.
I would find it interesting to open a conversation with such a person and find out what was really going on in their head.
BTW -- Anybody remember the guy who used to be on these forums that insisted he was a werewolf?
I miss ole Wolfie.... I believe he called himself a "weres"
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That would be Wolfvanzandt. His last post was in 06 unless he's posting under a different handle. He believed that wereism was a genetic thing and something to do with Therian something-or-other. At least he didn't drink blood.
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RE: Church Secretary is a vampire! - 8/8/2008 10:28:14 AM
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So it is okay for a Christian to be a werewolf, but not a vampire?
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RE: Church Secretary is a vampire! - 8/8/2008 10:37:32 AM
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DougHorton
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So it is okay for a Christian to be a werewolf, but not a vampire?
Interesting question. Does either belief system, whether delusional or a lifestyle, break any of the 10 Commandments?
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RE: Church Secretary is a vampire! - 8/8/2008 10:38:59 AM
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bluestone
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I started a new thread on whether church staff should be hired from within the church, or outside of it.
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RE: Church Secretary is a vampire! - 8/8/2008 10:46:55 AM
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So it is okay for a Christian to be a werewolf, but not a vampire?
Okay for a Christian to "be" a werewolf or vampire or "believe" they are a werewolf or vampire?
Wolfvanzandt was a very interesting poster. By my memory he usually expressed very sound doctrine and a very good understanding of the Gospel. He fervently trusted in Jesus Christ as his Lord and Savior. In my book, that distinguishes him as a Christian. His belief that he is a werewolf/were/therian/whatever did not appear to cause him to live a lifestyle contrary to his claim to be a Christian. I truly enjoyed his participation in the forums even though his posts regarding wereism was a bit (okay..a lot) outside the box.
I don't know anything about this former church secretary who claims to be a vampire. So I cannot begin to judge the sincerity of her claim to be a Christian. However, drinking blood is a direct violation of scriptural command -- both OT and NT.
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RE: Church Secretary is a vampire! - 8/8/2008 11:11:49 AM
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The British eat blood pudding.
Whether it is a vampire cult or football cult, my question would be how a member of any cult could be a Christian.
I would find it interesting to open a conversation with such a person and find out what was really going on in their head.
BTW -- Anybody remember the guy who used to be on these forums that insisted he was a werewolf?
I miss ole Wolfie.... I believe he called himself a "weres"
John
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That would be Wolfvanzandt. His last post was in 06 unless he's posting under a different handle. He believed that wereism was a genetic thing and something to do with Therian something-or-other. At least he didn't drink blood.
Thanks, Laura
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RE: Church Secretary is a vampire! - 8/8/2008 11:14:05 AM
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So it is okay for a Christian to be a werewolf, but not a vampire?
Okay for a Christian to "be" a werewolf or vampire or "believe" they are a werewolf or vampire?
Wolfvanzandt was a very interesting poster. By my memory he usually expressed very sound doctrine and a very good understanding of the Gospel. He fervently trusted in Jesus Christ as his Lord and Savior. In my book, that distinguishes him as a Christian. His belief that he is a werewolf/were/therian/whatever did not appear to cause him to live a lifestyle contrary to his claim to be a Christian. I truly enjoyed his participation in the forums even though his posts regarding wereism was a bit (okay..a lot) outside the box.
He was very well spoken so to speak and until he mentioned the weresim stuff you'd never guess.... Sure led to some interesting conversation... I recall a thread with a professed atheist that was very interesting because Wolf was involved...
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RE: Church Secretary is a vampire! - 8/8/2008 11:30:31 AM
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Does either belief system, whether delusional or a lifestyle, break any of the 10 Commandments? There is a command for gentile believers in Acts 15 to abstain from blood, and from eating strangled meat. Strangulation clots the blood in the veins and makes it almost impossible to drain the meat properly.
I would say activlely drinking blood violates this command.
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RE: Church Secretary is a vampire! - 8/8/2008 11:41:18 AM
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RE: Church Secretary is a vampire! - 8/8/2008 12:43:15 PM
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Does either belief system, whether delusional or a lifestyle, break any of the 10 Commandments? There is a command for gentile believers in Acts 15 to abstain from blood, and from eating strangled meat. Strangulation clots the blood in the veins and makes it almost impossible to drain the meat properly.
I would say activlely drinking blood violates this command.
As I pointed out previously, the British eat blood pudding. Does this mean they are not Christian?
Yes, there is that admonition in Acts 15 for the benefit of Jewish believers. But their salvation was not on the line if they disobeyed.
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RE: Church Secretary is a vampire! - 8/8/2008 3:12:27 PM
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As I pointed out previously, the British eat blood pudding. Does this mean they are not Christian?
Yes, there is that admonition in Acts 15 for the benefit of Jewish believers. But their salvation was not on the line if they disobeyed. Please note nowhere does it say that the 4 commands were for the benefit of the Jewish brethern. NOWHERE.
If they eat blood, it does not mean they are not believers but it does mean they are not being obediant to scripture.
BTW, rare or well done is not the issue. It is how well the blood is drained BEFORE cooking.
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RE: Church Secretary is a vampire! - 8/8/2008 3:15:51 PM
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well, my steak is usually swimming in the stuff.
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Don't want to seem overly cynical, but that's been my experience with a few congregations I've been in contact with in the past. 
