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evry1needsgod -> RE: More Proof Darwin Was Wrong (8/1/2008 6:51:54 PM)
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You might have a point if that is what evolution actually says. As it is, evolution makes no testament to the worth of humanity at all. Your putting words in evolutions mouth so to speak. I really don't see why so many of you stubbornly persist in inserting completely imaginary value judgments into the theory of evolution. This fallacy has been pointed out ad nauseum on these forums, yet creationists still cling to it, beyond all reason. Yes, when you say "evolution says humans are no better than a monkey" or that "we should behave like monkeys because evolution says we are animals" you are making false statements. With the amount of times this fallacy gets pointed out here, its really quite irresponsible to continue to spread it.
The mere existence of theistic evolutionists like Gluadys, and Ken Miller (both Christians no less) make your argument totally invalid. The catholic church officially supports evolution, but makes a clear distinction that evolution is compatible with the idea that humanity is a special, unique part of creation. How can there be Christians out there who believe in the specialness of humanity and evolution?
You misunderstand evolution, insert all kinds of false doctrine into it, and proceed to get on a soapbox and rail against it. A perfect example of a straw man argument.
First, when a state of the US passes a law allowing homosexual marriage, it indirectly attacks Christians and their belief. Although the law itself does not TECHNICALLY say ANYTHING about Christianity and/or their belief, it does attack Christians. Whether or not a law mentions a certain aspect does not limit it to only what it mentions. Evolution, under the guise of science, claims NO religious or moral implications, but that does not change the fact that when a 12 year-old (such as myself when I was that age) hears the teacher tell them he was an accident, that 12 year-old feels completely worthless and "anti-unique." I could care less what evolution CLAIMS it does/does not speak of. You can claim whatever you want and not change reality.
Second, when I was speaking of evolution, I was talking to you (you're not a Christian) and was therefor referring to YOUR style of evolution (Atheistic, naturalistic, humanistic). Yes, Gluadys can always insert the "God factor" into the conversation to make evolution more morally acceptable, but that is not a luxury you hold. Your evolutionism (which is the ONLY evolutionism allowed to be taught in our public schools - no theistic evolution is allowed) is the evolution that indirectly teaches kids how unimportant they are. Whether you like it or not, Creationists did not make this up. This is something many of them (such as myself) WITNESSED while in elementary and high school. There is much truth to what I have said, most of which comes from first hand experience (I taught classes where kids would come up to me and ask what the point to life is if we existed by accident. ONE WAS EVEN SUICIDAL because Atheistic evolutionism indirectly drilled into his brain the unimportance and pointlessness of life!!! This is a fact that happens all accross the world, so I'd quit denying it if I were you) and perhaps you should ponder on it a while, before simply dismissing it as dogmatic, unintelligent rants. That is selfish to those kids who suffer from the teachings of evolution. You are right in that the ToE does not DIRECTLY speak on these issues, but that DOES NOT exclude it from doing so. To deny this is sticking your head in the sand, my friend.
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