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ORIGINAL: PopsiLufsJesus

Well, I don't know as if I would term that worship, but who am I to judge where those people's hearts were when they sang that song? Some of them may not even have known the song came from somewhere else and was Christianized. I wouldn't have known had you not told me.

I think people these days get too easily offended! If you don't consider that worship then don't YOU worship that way.

Most important... God knows the heart. If we desire to worship Him it must be in spirit and in truth!

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ORIGINAL: Kat_D

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ORIGINAL: StephK

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ORIGINAL: earthless

A song by Peter Burns, a proud homosexual.

Everyone take off your socks!

Poor ol' Pete is also addicted to plastic surgery. ***** WARNING HURL INDUCING PIC *****

I didn't actually hurl, but I did throw up a little in my mouth!

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ORIGINAL: Pirate-of-Paradise

first of all in commenting on the video:
1. i don't like the sock-twirling thing, that was dumb.
2. i didn't find the lyrics were good biblically sound lyrics.

other than those two problems, let me say this, that I DON"T have a problem with people using the music from secular songs to worship too, if you make sure the lyrics are good scripturally sound lyrics.

as a side note, i'm surprised no one mentioned the fact that when martin luther wrote all of his hymns, most if not all of them were set to the contemporary bar tunes of his day. so, the problem is not with the use of secular music, the problem was with the lack of good solid theology in the lyrics. if they had chosen better lyrics, i wouldn't have had a problem with the song.

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"Of the melodies to Luther’s 37 chorales, 15 were composed by Luther himself, 13 came from Latin hymns of Latin service music, 4 were derived from German religious folk songs, 2 had originally been religious pilgrims’ songs, 2 are of unknown origin, and one came directly from a secular folk song." (Data compiled from Squire, pp. 446-447; Leupold, ed., Liturgy and Hymns; and Strodach, ed., Works of Martin Luther, VI)

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Luther did not use the barroom songs of his day, nor did he use even the worldly music of his day. In fact, he was extremely cautious in protecting the Word of God from any admixture of worldly elements. This can be seen in his words: ‘I wish to compose sacred hymns so that the Word of God may dwell among the people also by means of songs.’"
(Robert D. Harrell, Martin Luther, His Music, His Message, p. 36)

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ORIGINAL: ortanan

I sow that short movie and I have two things to say. First is that some people like pop music and that is way they can express their self. Why not even their faith? But is this is the way do do that?...hm.
Maybe it is not official worship service of some church? I didn't quite understood that part of story.
To use melody and lyrics of secular songs and Christianize them is not bad, but only if one who does that, has good theology knowledge. What I sow here was just way to have some fun. Nothing else.
In Serbia, which is my country, there was a bishop, named Nikolai who wrote good sermon lyrics, but for music he used popular melodies of his time. It was in third decade of 20th century. Many people of his time didn't understood his way, but still we are singing those songs today in our churches. And he was recognized for a saint few years back.
But I think that what I sow here is not that.

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ORIGINAL: earthless

Just downright tacky...

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ORIGINAL: StephK
Using the original music and applying new lyrics is not really the same thing as tweaking the lyrics to add a few Christian terms leaving the song pretty much the same.

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ORIGINAL: ortanan

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ORIGINAL: StephK
Using the original music and applying new lyrics is not really the same thing as tweaking the lyrics to add a few Christian terms leaving the song pretty much the same.

OK, I know that, but still thanks for explanation. What I meant was I didn't see any theological knowledge or any sense of poetry in this man. Probably his work will never be recognized, or even remembered.

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ORIGINAL: 1love1God1way

I wonder what other songs we could use like this? . . .

Here I am, rock me like a hurricane, Jesus

What is love? Jesus don't hurt me. . .

Just a Jewish boy, born and raised in bethelem. . .took the midnight caravan going anywhere. . .

Jesus. . .shook me all niiiight long

Take me down to Paradise city, where the grass is green and Jesus is pretty. . .

Jesus is a friend, Yeah, I know he's been a good friend of mine.

For those about to worship, we salute you!

Jesus, Jesus who can I turn to, You give me something I can hold on to

You've been hit by, you've been struck by, a smooth Savior

I think we're on to something here. . .

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There were indeed instances in which Luther and his colleagues used melodies (and sometimes part of the poetry) from nonliturgical songs. The first stanza of "From Heav’n Above" (ELW 268) was based upon a light-hearted love song, "From Distant Land I Come To You." Originally the hymn text was sung to the love song tune. Since this tune was still being sung in taverns and other places for entertainment, it was not long before the reformers substituted a newly composed melody for the original. It is this new melody that survives as the standard tune to this day.