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RE: Obama's One World Speech - 7/27/2008 7:53:11 PM
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todd_t
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For the record I use scripture the common knowledge fact that Obama supports abortion and the homosexual agenda...
We know, John.
You've made that abundantly clear on about ten million occasions (give or take a million).
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RE: Obama's One World Speech - 7/27/2008 7:53:57 PM
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Hi Julius, I do not stand for his voting record, just do not. My feeling is he may as well be a muslim, because in truth, his belief system might be better than it is in some ways. I agree with your elderly Aunt also, I have a funny feeling. If I am wrong, than I just am. I aways listened to my aunties, (well most of the time). The elderly have wisdom, in most cases ( not speaking of McCain though). LOL I do not really like him either. colliefan, I do not know why I quoted you, but it could apply.
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The United Christian Church is an apostate church as is the Episcopal Church (USA). They devalue scripture and embrace homosexuality. They are just anothor variation of the Unitarian Univeralists.
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RE: Obama's One World Speech - 7/27/2008 7:57:55 PM
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SovereignIsHe
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Have you considered employment in Bush's Dept. of Theology?
Why? I didn't vote for either Bush Jr or Sr... As for Mr. Bush's theology, it's lacking since he believes that Jews, Muslims and Christians worship the same God... Btw... My guess is that you'd believe the same...
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You could tell all us peons which churches are approved for worshiping Christ.
You deny there are false teachers and apostate churches?
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In fact, why think small?
You need to contact the Pope, your seat in the Holy Roman Empire awaits you.
As a Reformer I have no desire to contact the pope...
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(they may have a problem finding a crown with a large enough circumference)
It would only be a problem if I were looking for one...
Btw... For the record you have not refuted the fact that the church of Rev. Wright is an issue... Issue enough that Obama, a member for 20+ years, baptisms and marriage dropped it like it was nothing when it came between him and his chances to win the nomination...
John
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RE: Obama's One World Speech - 7/27/2008 8:08:28 PM
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SovereignIsHe
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For the record I use scripture the common knowledge fact that Obama supports abortion and the homosexual agenda...
We know, John.
You've made that abundantly clear on about ten million occasions (give or take a million).
Wonderful and I will do so every time the opportunity presents itself...
John
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RE: Obama's One World Speech - 7/28/2008 4:34:47 PM
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Jhud
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You folks sure know how to get off track - most of what has been said has nothing to do with his speech - I want to know what you think of Obama's plan, "to bring justice and peace to our world."?
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RE: Obama's One World Speech - 7/28/2008 4:52:40 PM
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todd_t
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It wasn't a plan. It was a metaphor.
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RE: Obama's One World Speech - 7/28/2008 5:08:10 PM
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Jhud
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It wasn't a plan. It was a metaphor.
That sounds like the perfect Obama campaign slogan.
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RE: Obama's One World Speech - 7/28/2008 5:16:51 PM
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todd_t
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Clever comeback, I must admit.
But I took very little Obama said in that Berlin speech literally.
It was one of those sweeping, symbolic overtures about sunny skies, puppy dogs, and freedom that pols have been delivering for ages.
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RE: Obama's One World Speech - 7/28/2008 5:35:25 PM
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Jhud
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Clever comeback, I must admit.
But I took very little Obama said in that Berlin speech literally.
It was one of those sweeping, symbolic overtures about sunny skies, puppy dogs, and freedom that pols have been delivering for ages.
It did have that "What a Wonderful World" ring to it, didn't it?
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RE: Obama's One World Speech - 7/29/2008 11:55:30 AM
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TaoPoohBear
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It's really shameful the way you talk to a fellow brother in the Lord; you didn't refute anything he said with God's Word,which we are told to test everything against; you chose to be condescending and insulting.
The problem with using scripture to bolster a political stance is--as history has demonstrated zillions of times--it can be interpreted in miriad ways, and used to justify an equal variety of positions.
Further, some here have simply grown tired of being judgmentally brow-beaten by others for their politics, and choose not to lie down and be steamrolled.
The Bible is crystal clear that homosexuality and murder (abortion) is sin. How can the be interpreted in a myriad of ways?
If you feel that way, you have two options ignore him or kill him with kindness ( a soft answer turneth away wrath). No one is forcing anyone to respond to a post; simply walk away. To justify name calling because , "He did it 1st" isn't Biblically allowable.
Thanx Todd.
It's the height of arrogance to declare a Christian church is "not a Christian church" just because it doesn't fit with a conservative interpretation of the Bible.
I didn't call names so much as suggest a path to achieve fulfillment of this evil.
And, it's a darn good reason to ignore such a person should I choose to participate in future discussions. At this time, I think I'll find more enlightened pursuits.
Matthew 10 40-42
He that receiveth you receiveth me, and he that receiveth me receiveth him that sent me.
He that receiveth a prophet in the name of a prophet shall receive a prophet's reward; and he that receiveth a righteous man in the name of a righteous man shall receive a righteous man's reward.
And whosoever shall give to drink unto one of these little ones a cup of cold water only in the name of a disciple, verily I say unto you, he shall in no wise lose his reward.
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RE: Obama's One World Speech - 7/29/2008 5:48:46 PM
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Jhud
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I really should have thought more about the eschatological implications of the title of this thread before I posted it - I didn't intend to suggest Obama is the anti-Christ, and I do not think he is.
I do however think his campaign is very much in the vein of Brother Love's Traveling Salvation Show - which incidentally could serve as his campaign song.
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RE: Obama's One World Speech - 7/29/2008 9:14:52 PM
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colliefan
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It's the height of arrogance to declare a Christian church is "not a Christian church" just because it doesn't fit with a conservative interpretation of the Bible.
So, it doesn't matter what the Bible says about sin? It doesn't matter if what they teach goes against clear orthodoxy. I judge what the bible teaches and years of church teaching over your feelings anyday!
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