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RichLP -> RE: McCain thinks Iraq borders Pakistan (7/22/2008 3:44:13 PM)
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McCain is on record having conflated Shia Iran w/ Sunni Al-Qaeda (an error some Crosswalkers have also made - maybe they could've learned by using Youtube) and now he doesn't know the borders of Iraq. As for Obama (whom you keep dragging into these issues while offering no refutation for McCain's egregious gaffes), you can call him incompetent if you want. I never called McCain incompetent. I just provided proof he has shown himself to be ignorant of certain Middle East realities. Maybe McCain, too, might've learned something by using... ... Youtube. The reason for 'dragging' Obama into it is to make a comparison. If it were the case where there was one candidate who through repeated television, radio, and newspaper ads never made a factual mistake, and another case where this happened repeatedly, then it could rightly be said, "The latter seems to have a problem". If however it can be shown that such factual gaffes are actually common in the youtube age, where we are constantly inundated by clips of interviews, off camera quips, and a myriad of mumbling responses, then the fact that McCain has done the same would be unremarkable. I have shown both candidates are capable of such errors (indeed, Obama has his share of youtube gaffes out there) - indeed, in the case of Obama he seems confused about what his own family has or hasn't done in world events. And so if we must follow your conclusion that such gaffes are an indicator of ignorance, then we must conclude tha Obama and McCain are equally ignorant, and there is little choice out there. Or we can conclude that this is more likely the product of an over recorded election cycle, which I optimistically find to be more likely. Either way, there is little here to distinguish a particular candidate in terms of his worth for President, and I presumed you wanted to say something worthwhile. McCain wants to win in Iraq. But the man has shown, via his statements, a glaring ignorance of Middle Eastern realities. He thought Shiite Iran, an ideological foe of Al-Qaeda, who is a group of radical Salafi Sunnis, was training Al-Qaeda. He doesn't know there is a certain Islamic nation of considerable size known as Iran between Iraq and Pakistan. Personally, to me, that is a problem. Gaffes being common or not do not exonerate McCain being ignorant of those realities, and any gaffe by other politicians is no exoneration or excuse for McCain. As for ethnic cleansing, that happened in Baghdad during the surge, so technically those who tout the surge's successes (McCain) would also agree that in that context, ethnic cleansing was a good thing. As for saying something worthwhile, I speculate that was your intention when you used the epithet "idiots" above?
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