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Daddy's taking us to the zoo tomorrow, zoo tomorrow, zo... - 7/12/2008 8:39:25 PM
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Covaan_Meshuga
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Innocent song, innocent place. Who is at the zoo but all the wonderful animals, children, and families. But that is not all that goes to the zoo.
Child predators go to the zoo, too.
I took my grandson and granddaughter to the zoo some years ago, when my granddaughter was just at the beginning of that age when she did not want a stroller. It was our first time without her in one.
As I always told my children, I told her, "Stay where you can see my eyes!"
But it was the zoo, for good night! And that day, the zoo was full of teachers with their classes. And where is a safer place than a zoo, I reasoned? Especially one full of teachers and students!
So as we left one display, my granddaughter fell a step behind her older brother and I. I would turn and caution her again, "Stay where you can see my eyes!" But it happened three different times that she fell behind, and I cautioned her. Two of those times, I happened to notice a man who was walking behind us. I thought absolutely nothing of that -- he was just a man at the zoo, enjoying the zoo as I was enjoying it.
We went into the very child-friendly petting zoo. And she fell behind there once again. I turned to caution her, but what I saw sent chilled me to the marrow. He was a foot-and-a-half behind her, bent at the waist, his hands extended directly to her back!
I didn't even have time to give him a dirty look or say anything. I didn't even think to look at him, to get a description! I grabbed her into my arms and told my grandson to grab hold of my skirt, because we were going to run. I ran as fast as my grandson could go, straight for the zoo's store and told them what had happened.
They called the zoo guards, who asked to speak to me. "What did he look like?" they asked.
"I don't know! I don't know! I just wanted to get my grandchildren out of there."
They met my declaration with silence. In their silence, somehow, I began to remember.
"He was wearing long khaki shorts with lots of pockets and zippers. Oh, and he had on a shirt with ..." and I went on with a description. I had no idea that I could remember anything at all, but somehow, their silence caused me to remember and describe him to a "T," from his hat right down to his watch, his shoes, and his socks!
While I was on the phone, barely through describing him, the guard said, "We have him."
I responded with, "I just want to get my grandchildren out of here. Can I go home? I will give you my phone number and address."
They let me go home. The police called later. "He's a teacher," the officer told me.
"What can I do?"
"He has no record. Did he actually touch your granddaughter?"
"No."
"Then we can't file charges."
"Well, is there anything I can do? I want him prosecuted."
"All we can do is make a record of what you have told us and attach it to his name. If he pulls anything again, it will be on his record."
"Do it. And thank you."
Thank you for reading this. Don't make the mistakes I did. Thank G-d for His protection that was with us all that day.
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RE: Daddy's taking us to the zoo tomorrow, zoo tomorrow... - 7/12/2008 8:45:45 PM
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That would be scary!!
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RE: Daddy's taking us to the zoo tomorrow, zoo tomorrow... - 7/12/2008 8:57:32 PM
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So, he was a teacher leading his students on a school trip?
Ma'am, I'm sure you were very frightened, and I didn't see what you saw, but is it possible you misunderstood the situation? I am in a family of teachers, and they are all extremely conscious of their conduct around children, especially male teachers to female students.
Even if he was one of a small number of teachers who do harm their students, it's unlikely he would be so stupid as to molest a child in plain view of other parents.
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RE: Daddy's taking us to the zoo tomorrow, zoo tomorrow... - 7/12/2008 9:42:57 PM
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He had left his class in the care of the student teacher and the parents. He was alone each time I saw him, and he followed us to several parts of the zoo. I could kick myself that I did not suspect him when I saw him the second and third times; this happened on the fourth time, and every time, he was alone, not with a class.
I know beyond any morsel of a doubt that when I turned on the fourth time, his hands were only about a foot and a half from my granddaughter; he was bent at the waist toward her, his eyes were on her. There was no one near us, over by the barn -- just my grandchildren and me, and him with his hands stretched out to my granddaughter's back. There is no mistaking what I saw. Not in the least.
And her father has been a teacher for years. I was schooled to be a teacher. I had no idea, when I saw him those four times and when I reported the incident, that he was a teacher. He was alone all four times, and all four times that I saw him, he was behind us.
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RE: Daddy's taking us to the zoo tomorrow, zoo tomorrow... - 7/12/2008 10:28:01 PM
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Well, then I'm glad you are so certain. Although you can't prosecute a man for reaching out to a child, it doesn't take much to ruin a teacher's career, even the slightest hint of impropriety can destroy a teacher. So, you may have revenge after all.
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RE: Daddy's taking us to the zoo tomorrow, zoo tomorrow... - 7/12/2008 10:35:19 PM
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Sideways, I never wanted revenge. I wanted children to be safe. Revenge just is not an agenda I carry.
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RE: Daddy's taking us to the zoo tomorrow, zoo tomorrow... - 7/12/2008 10:51:51 PM
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Oh, Covaan, that is absolutely chilling!
Thank God for His protection and your diligence!
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RE: Daddy's taking us to the zoo tomorrow, zoo tomorrow... - 7/12/2008 10:57:57 PM
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He had left his class in the care of the student teacher and the parents.
So, did the police find this out when they questioned him? I'm certain he will think twice then before trying that again.
I'm very glad you and your grandchildren are safe.
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RE: Daddy's taking us to the zoo tomorrow, zoo tomorrow... - 7/12/2008 11:11:31 PM
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Oh, Covaan, that is absolutely chilling!
Thank God for His protection and your diligence!
I should have been a whole lot smarter. The experience made me smarter. My grandson still remembers what happened, and being very protective toward his sister, he was very upset. It took awhile before we were comfortable returning to the zoo, but good night! Common sense says this was one set of incidents on one trip among many. My grandson eventually was fine going again, but we did things a lot differently. My granddaughter was too young to really understand what could have happened, so we didn't talk about it in front of her; I was just a lot more careful about both of them. That granddaughter is returning from a trip to Mexico tomorrow, where she, with others from her church, helped build two houses last week. It was hard to see her go, but she called my daughter and was so excited!
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He had left his class in the care of the student teacher and the parents.
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So, did the police find this out when they questioned him? I'm certain he will think twice then before trying that again.
I'm very glad you and your grandchildren are safe.
No, the guards did. The police could not tell me much. All they could tell me was that it would be on his record, but it would not be public unless he was accused of something similar again, especially if he was ever prosecuted. However, you and I know that unless the guards used a whole lot of discretion, people may have known that something happened, just not what happened. He may have still been alone when they found him -- in fact, that is likely, because they were so fast.
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RE: Daddy's taking us to the zoo tomorrow, zoo tomorrow... - 7/12/2008 11:19:44 PM
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actually teachers roaming the zoo alone is quite common when they take a field trip to the zoo. In fact when my dd's 1st grade class went to the zoo this past spring, the 4 primary teachers stayed in one spot and parent chaperones were responsible for 2 or 3 kiddos apiece. The teachers stayed put so we could find them should a need arise.
Thankfully, however Covaan, you were aware and observant!
But the deal is is that predators can pretty much go about as they please. They are in the grocery store, the amusement parks, and yes even our zoos.
It's best that we parents and grandparents just be diligent and mindful of those around our children and teach our children how to keep themselves safe as well.
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RE: Daddy's taking us to the zoo tomorrow, zoo tomorrow... - 7/13/2008 12:00:58 AM
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But the deal is is that predators can pretty much go about as they please. They are in the grocery store, the amusement parks, and yes even our zoos.
Indeed. Even to our churches and the family picnic. Don't you just hate that?
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RE: Daddy's taking us to the zoo tomorrow, zoo tomorrow... - 7/13/2008 6:56:34 PM
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Thank you for reading this. Don't make the mistakes I did. Thank G-d for His protection that was with us all that day.
What, exactly do you consider to be the 'mistakes' you made? I'd like to take your experience to heart, but I really can't see any way to practically take more than one child anyplace at all without taking the risk that someone might snatch them when I 'blink'. I'm all for practical steps to prevent things, if you have any... but if it can't be prevented, I guess it can't be, and I refuse to live in fear.
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RE: Daddy's taking us to the zoo tomorrow, zoo tomorrow... - 7/14/2008 2:58:20 AM
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Thank you for reading this. Don't make the mistakes I did. Thank G-d for His protection that was with us all that day.
What, exactly do you consider to be the 'mistakes' you made? I'd like to take your experience to heart, but I really can't see any way to practically take more than one child anyplace at all without taking the risk that someone might snatch them when I 'blink'. I'm all for practical steps to prevent things, if you have any... but if it can't be prevented, I guess it can't be, and I refuse to live in fear.
"I refuse to live in fear." Exactly. That is why I wrote:
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It took awhile before we were comfortable returning to the zoo, but good night! Common sense says this was one set of incidents on one trip among many. Once I was able to get my grandson to go back, he was trusting enough to put it all behind him. My granddaughter was too young to be in fear.
What could I have done differently. Well, after that experience, while I still made the grandchildren verbally responsible to always "stay where you can see my eyes," I took complete and constant responsibility to make sure they were within my eyesight.
I also made myself more aware of my surroundings and who was near. If I had seen anyone behind us twice or looking suspicious around us, I took notice and removed the grandchildren from harm without arousing fear in them.
We still went to the zoo, "fountain hopping," to the park, the children's museum, etc., but I just made sure that I did all the right things to keep them safe.
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RE: Daddy's taking us to the zoo tomorrow, zoo tomorrow... - 7/14/2008 8:40:52 AM
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(I bet a few people here can predict exactly what I am going to post...  )
The best thing you can do to protect kids is not necessarily to keep them in your sight at all times or tell them not to talk to strangers. There is tremendous potential for situations where you will get separated, and then what will the children do?
Everyone who cares for children needs to read Protecting the Gift by Gavin de Becker (just like every woman needs to read The Gift of Fear).
There- I said it, just as you thought. 
Predators go where the prey is- playgrounds, schools, amusement parks, Chuck E. Cheese... and you will go insane trying to foresee every potential problem they might encounter. Kids need to be equipped as much or more than parents and caregivers. Paranoia is the #1 enemy of child safety, because it steals one of your best defenses- intuition.
Covaan- your intuition kicked in and told you that this wasn't an innocent action by this man. There was something about the way he looked at her and reached for her that said "DANGER!" to your subconscious brain and you acted instantly. If you stood there and tried to reason it out (he's a teacher, maybe he's trying to help, people might think I'm nuts...) it might've been a different story than the one you told.
On the other hand, when you have prepared yourself and your kids, and taken reasonable precautions, you can relax and enjoy trips to the zoo and the park and Magic Castle, and so can the children, because the rest is truly up to God.
If you want to know more about the books and Mr. de Becker, check out some interviews on YouTube- Part 1 of a Prime Time Live show on him and the topic of safety.
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RE: Daddy's taking us to the zoo tomorrow, zoo tomorrow... - 7/14/2008 9:43:44 AM
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Well, then I'm glad you are so certain. Although you can't prosecute a man for reaching out to a child, it doesn't take much to ruin a teacher's career, even the slightest hint of impropriety can destroy a teacher. So, you may have revenge after all.
yes...the slightest HINT of impropriety...
or, in the case of a few teachers in our metro area, a single FALSE accusation by one student can ruin a teacher's career, as well....(and, even after their name is "cleared", and the student admits to "wrongly accusing", there are those who still WONDER if the teacher did something)....one simple 'accusation'....and, that teacher is tried, convicted and hung by the media before a court date can even be scheduled....
so, it was a man who did that......what if that person had been a woman? same reaction?
my wife can go up to pretty much ANY kid....say anything....do anything...and everything is perfectly fine and normal....
i even look in the direction of a kid....and, "RED FLAGS" go up everywhere...
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RE: Daddy's taking us to the zoo tomorrow, zoo tomorrow... - 7/14/2008 9:53:38 AM
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so, it was a man who did that......what if that person had been a woman? same reaction?
Even though some women are predators, statistically men are MUCH more likely to commit crimes against children they don't know than women. Women tend to abuse their own children, or children into whose care parents have placed them.
I 'touch' kids all the time- ruffle their hair, put my hand on their shoulders, and call them "Honey" and "Sweetheart". But I believe in this case Covaan sensed danger with her God-given insight.
Check out the video I posted and do a search on Gavin de Becker on YouTube- good stuff.
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RE: Daddy's taking us to the zoo tomorrow, zoo tomorrow... - 7/14/2008 10:08:39 AM
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so, it was a man who did that......what if that person had been a woman? same reaction?
my wife can go up to pretty much ANY kid....say anything....do anything...and everything is perfectly fine and normal....
i even look in the direction of a kid....and, "RED FLAGS" go up everywhere...
I'd have felt the same if it had been a woman.
When I was teaching my children how to keep themselves safe, I would regularly give them "what if" scenarios and ask them how they'd react. At least half of those scenarios involved women, one or two women and a child or children. When babies have been snatched from maternity wards, it's by women, and also some predatory males have a female to do things on their behalf.
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RE: Daddy's taking us to the zoo tomorrow, zoo tomorrow... - 7/14/2008 10:10:56 AM
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What could I have done differently. Well, after that experience, while I still made the grandchildren verbally responsible to always "stay where you can see my eyes," I took complete and constant responsibility to make sure they were within my eyesight.
I absolutely agree that this is the way to go. My children weren't allowed to walk behind me - had to stay where I could see them. Even my dog knows the command "Stay where I can see you" - which prevents both lagging behind and running too far ahead.
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RE: Daddy's taking us to the zoo tomorrow, zoo tomorrow... - 7/14/2008 11:12:16 AM
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Another place to be extremely cautious...the public library. We've spoken with the librarians and they have told us that libraries are not a safe place for children. They are public buildings and they are frequented by predators. Even with my preteens I am extremely cautious in the library.
Many years ago we were in our downtown branch (this is not a major metropolitan area) and I was explaining to my son who was around age 11 that he did not need to wander off to the copier. The librarian who heard me let us know that he did not need to be alone in the library. I have had friends who have been told the same thing at our local suburban branch. If my memory serves me correctly, one parents was lectured for letting her grade school child run in to return a book.
Libraries are public buildings and open to everyone. Recently I was at our downtown branch during a major rainstorm at closing time. It was very interesting to watch who was leaving the library at closing time...and I was very nervous crossing the parking lot.
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RE: Daddy's taking us to the zoo tomorrow, zoo tomorrow... - 7/14/2008 11:15:39 AM
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At what age do you think it is appropriate to allow your children out of your sight or reach in a public place...
for a bink or two,
for a few minutes,
to wait at a table in a restaurant while you go to the washroom or the buffet,
to play alone on a structure that is not very adult-friendly but mostly-visible,
to keep playing at the park while you walk a little ways to drop something in the trash,
to play at the park while you maybe read instead of totally watching,
if you play directly with one child with your back turned to another one,
to allow them to go into a bathroom stall alone while you stand outside,
to stand outside a bathroom stall while you go in alone,
to let them walk ahead of the cart a little 'too far' and then wait until they look back for you,
to call them once then walk slowly away until they notice they need to catch up,
if you are doing a diaper change or wiping a face or spoon feeding a baby, which takes your eyes of an older child...
Because, I guess I'm a little bit less vigilant than many here. I'm not convinced that bad things happen when I turn my back. I 'take my chances' and let my kid out of my sight quite frequently. Too risky for some, I suppose, but I'm OK with it, myself.
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RE: Daddy's taking us to the zoo tomorrow, zoo tomorrow... - 7/14/2008 11:45:31 AM
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The answer to these questions ^^^ would very much depend on WHERE we were in addition to how old. And what I would do with one of my kids was often different that what I did with the other one due to their own personalities and maturity level.
In Covaan's situation there's no doubt in my mind that she was accurate in what she perceived as danger and I also agree with everything that Sunnymom has posted in this thread.
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RE: Daddy's taking us to the zoo tomorrow, zoo tomorrow... - 7/14/2008 12:31:56 PM
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Yes, Kat_D, you are right: while the same granddaughter was out of the country helping build a home, concerns for her being away brought my mind back to that day, so I took that time to start this thread. I want to warn parents and grandparents about what can happen. I have done this before.
Personal experience definitely influences actions. For me, personal experience told me that the zoo, of all places, was a safe place, so I was not as vigilant as I should have been there. I assumed that everyone there was good and thought nothing of a man I saw twice behind us.
Had I been smart, I would not have become nervous about him being there upon the second time, but I would have verbally acknowledged his presence by looking him in firmly the eye and saying a firm hello, while he saw me taking in his appearance. That would have likely been warning enough to make him back off. That would have been my weapon, and the third time, with him reaching for my granddaughter behind my back would not likely have happened.
Would I have done the same if it had been a woman? To be honest, no. If it had been a woman, I would have been far more confrontational upon that third time. No one but NO ONE makes any move that indicates they are going to harm my child or grandchild without my confronting them.
A woman? I would have gotten between her and my grandchildren and if she had not been physically wounded, if she persisted, she would have at least been emotionally wounded.
Because it was a man, I ran with the children. If it had been a woman, well, I was younger and much stronger then. But I would not give 2¢ for either the emotional or physical security of a woman, had he been a woman.
And Kernsfamily, as much as I enjoy your posts and appreciate what I see in you through your posts, when it comes to the safety of any child, I don't give half a hoot what the career of the perp is or what future loss they may have to suffer. A child is an innocent child, and when any adult hurts a child, it is never ever the fault of the child, nor should the adult be believed when they claim that the child instigated the harm they did.
Manda, I didn't realize that my granddaughter didn't know the full details of what happened, until I brought up this thread to her last night. And your "what if" scenarios? I used to do that with my children. It's a great exercise.
JuliaHop, none of us actually go to the downtown library here, because no one is safe there. I remember when I thought that the library was completely safe for children in Minneapolis, and I would take them to the wonderful children's sections they had there, then feel free to go find a book for myself. No more!
Pbaribeault, I live in a little city that is particularly unsafe. We all know it. We talk about every place being the same, but the fact is that when new people come to my little city, they look at me wide-eyed and say, "I never believed what I had heard about this place, but it really is that bad, isn't it?" Yes, it is. And this conversation just happened again last week.
I agree with CoeurdeLeon. Here, I would not leave a young child or young children alone at a table in a restaurant. They would not go alone to a public restroom. They must be watched at all times while playing in the park. That's just the way it is here.
Sunnymom, thank you for the book and video recommendations!
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RE: Daddy's taking us to the zoo tomorrow, zoo tomorrow... - 7/14/2008 12:49:06 PM
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And Kernsfamily, as much as I enjoy your posts and appreciate what I see in you through your posts, when it comes to the safety of any child, I don't give half a hoot what the career of the perp is or what future loss they may have to suffer. A child is an innocent child, and when any adult hurts a child, it is never ever the fault of the child, nor should the adult be believed when they claim that the child instigated the harm they did.
In Kernsfamily's defense, he wasn't talking about the career of a perp, he was talking about the career of an innocent man. It is never the fault of a child for reporting actual abuse, but I have several cousins that, while they were still children, have made false accusations against men, and those accusations never went away, even when they were proven false.
My FIL is a teacher with 30 years experience and a pension, not a 401K. He teaches 7th and 8th graders. One false accusation by a girl who is mad at getting a D on her test could destroy him. He does everything he can to protect himself and be a virtual open book to his peers, parents and students. The rest he must leave in God's hands.
But in your case, Covaan, you were simply following your gut instinct, which is there for a good reason. I think you said that your complaint would not be made public unless a similar one was made, so it shouldn't hurt his career to badly.
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RE: Daddy's taking us to the zoo tomorrow, zoo tomorrow... - 7/14/2008 1:26:29 PM
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Experience definitely effects what we think and do. No school teacher ever touched me, so I never walked down that avenue before learning that he was a teacher. But as far as your cousins go, that was just evil. But again, by my life-experience, I don't trust preachers.
Regarding your FIL, I understand: my son-in-law walks a similar line himself, and when I mentioned this thread last night, he mentioned that one of the ways he protects himself is by a lot of documentation. The thought that it was a teacher shakes him to the bone in more ways than I understand myself, having decided not to finish my education to teach. And yes, I live north of Mary Kay Letourneau country.
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Abiyah
Why does He keep quoting Torah? Doesn't He know He's about to abolish it?
A tree's fruit is obvious; you have to look harder for the worm hole.
G-d has only one natural Son; EVERYONE else is adopted.
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