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RE: Is the Cold War becoming a HOT issue - 7/25/2008 6:20:47 AM   
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RE: Is the Cold War becoming a HOT issue - 7/25/2008 9:53:21 AM   
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So then, like, let me get this straight... when, not if, an attack of great proportions comes out of either the middle east to our allies in Europe or even Russia, the same Russia that is falling back to it's old ways and rebuilding the military and aligning themselves with China, so then when this attack happens, you all are going to be fine with just letting it happen and not trying to prevent the massive amount of complete destruction. I'll tell you what, why don't you go outside your house and yell to the sky and plead for your life and maybe those choosing to hate us may spare your life? OR, you may be the first to go? IDK, jus' sayin. I think one of these days, you'll appreciate having a missile defense system.
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RE: Is the Cold War becoming a HOT issue - 7/25/2008 10:01:27 AM   
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ORIGINAL: freakofnature

So then, like, let me get this straight... when, not if, an attack of great proportions comes out of either the middle east to our allies in Europe or even Russia, the same Russia that is falling back to it's old ways and rebuilding the military and aligning themselves with China, so then when this attack happens, you all are going to be fine with just letting it happen and not trying to prevent the massive amount of complete destruction. I'll tell you what, why don't you go outside your house and yell to the sky and plead for your life and maybe those choosing to hate us may spare your life? OR, you may be the first to go? IDK, jus' sayin. I think one of these days, you'll appreciate having a missile defense system.

Doubt it.
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You might want to do a little research in your spare time.
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RE: Is the Cold War becoming a HOT issue - 7/25/2008 10:25:43 AM   
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You might want to do a little research in your spare time.


As you, maybe try not using such unreliable sources tho! Wikipedia?

Moreover on Russian Military
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RE: Is the Cold War becoming a HOT issue - 7/25/2008 1:18:19 PM   
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ORIGINAL: freakofnature

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You might want to do a little research in your spare time.


As you, maybe try not using such unreliable sources tho! Wikipedia?

Moreover on Russian Military

I've read your posts, your credibility is less than 0.
Prove Wikipedia is unreliable.

FYI - This thread was about a missile defense system in the Czech Republic (I believe it's actually a radar in the Czech Republic, the missles in Poland).
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So then, like, let me get this straight... when, not if, an attack of great proportions comes out of either the middle east to our allies in Europe or even Russia, the same Russia that is falling back to it's old ways and rebuilding the military and aligning themselves with China, so then when this attack happens, you all are going to be fine with just letting it happen and not trying to prevent the massive amount of complete destruction. I'll tell you what, why don't you go outside your house and yell to the sky and plead for your life and maybe those choosing to hate us may spare your life? OR, you may be the first to go? IDK, jus' sayin. I think one of these days, you'll appreciate having a missile defense system.


Plase tell me how a European based interceptor will stop Russian (or Chinese) SLBMs or SLCMs in the Pacific?

And Iran can barely make a rocket that'll get to Europe. - Iranian missles
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RE: Is the Cold War becoming a HOT issue - 7/25/2008 1:31:19 PM   
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Prove Wikipedia is unreliable.


Wikipedia unreliable.
Wikipedia's credibility is less than zero.

I'm not saying that it is completely inaccurate but should not and can't be relied on solely for information. Sorry.

European allies need to be protected! Iran will continue to work on it's capabilities. Don't think for a minute that because of some failed test that they aren't going to be moving forward. Your shortsideness would get us all killed. It is planning for the future.
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RE: Is the Cold War becoming a HOT issue - 7/25/2008 1:45:54 PM   
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Do you remember that China couldn't get a missile to launch properly until.........?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/missile/keystories.htm

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ORIGINAL: TaoPoohBear

And Iran can barely make a rocket that'll get to Europe. - Iranian missles


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RE: Is the Cold War becoming a HOT issue - 7/25/2008 1:58:20 PM   
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ORIGINAL: freakofnature

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Prove Wikipedia is unreliable.


Wikipedia unreliable.
Wikipedia's credibility is less than zero.

I'm not saying that it is completely inaccurate but should not and can't be relied on solely for information. Sorry.

European allies need to be protected! Iran will continue to work on it's capabilities. Don't think for a minute that because of some failed test that they aren't going to be moving forward. Your shortsideness would get us all killed. It is planning for the future.


The U. of Texas's "Daily Texan" & fdelondras4.blogspot.com?!
WoW, you sure showed me!

I don't "rely" on Wikipedia so much as find it the best economical use of facts, in other words it's short and to the point; Other sources pop up before Wikipedia (try it, Google something).
If I see it elsewhere, I verify it with Wikipedia (and visa-versa).

If you think angering a major nuclear power is planning for the future, you've lost it.
Europe needs to be protected from people like yourself.
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RE: Is the Cold War becoming a HOT issue - 7/25/2008 2:43:52 PM   
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I don't "rely" on Wikipedia so much as find it the best economical use of facts, in other words it's short and to the point;


Wiki also puts sources in footnotes. I don't use Wiki though and use others just because it isn't liked. Many of those who criticize you for Wiki have no problem with World Nut Daily so go figure.

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RE: Is the Cold War becoming a HOT issue - 7/25/2008 4:04:06 PM   
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If Russia does have the largest stockpile of nuclear weapons of any country, why has not the U.S. built theirs up to at least match or even exceed's Russia's supply?

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RE: Is the Cold War becoming a HOT issue - 7/25/2008 4:28:54 PM   
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Maybe it's not the quantity, but the quality. Russia doesn't have the best record for quality and reliability.
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If Russia does have the largest stockpile of nuclear weapons of any country, why has not the U.S. built theirs up to at least match or even exceed's Russia's supply?


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RE: Is the Cold War becoming a HOT issue - 7/26/2008 2:36:35 AM   
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ORIGINAL: davemiller7

Maybe it's not the quantity, but the quality. Russia doesn't have the best record for quality and reliability.
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ORIGINAL: CCCdnt

If Russia does have the largest stockpile of nuclear weapons of any country, why has not the U.S. built theirs up to at least match or even exceed's Russia's supply?


From my understanding, (and a little experience), you're quite correct.
I spent some time at a military hospital in Europe with one of our nuke techs in the mid-'80s, I had not realized how small we could make the darn things. Our MIRV technology scares the heck out of the Russians, and I believe one of the treaties specified a limit on our SLBM warheads (not that we'd lose the capability, just not deploy it).
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