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RE: Visions from God, the devil or me? - 8/17/2008 9:51:14 PM
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delete123
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I am not a dream keeper o knowledgeable other than my own. However God can be showing that the choice is hers to make as he provides more than one prospect.
And for those that refer to satan giving dreams, satan only knows our past, henceforth can give temptation to our weaknesses. He does not know our future only his own.
So if the dream is of future tense and does not involve include past misgivings or ways it can be counted from God.
Satan does not know our mind, he knows scripture, our past, but there is only, and I mean only One who knows and holds our Future and that is Jesus Christ.
So excuse me for disagreeing with you plea.
Before you head hunt me, please refer to samuel where God *allowed* a n evil spirit to hinder King Saul, not enter him or God's dwelling place within, but hinder externally the king to provoke things from the past.
We are given freewill and a choice to believe in Him.
How one chooses to believe I believe is also a personal chioce.
It's not to say the o/poster is to sit around waiting for a "dream" to come to pass. But the o/poster can be aware if this or another man given in her dreams passes her way.
I have a friend whose daughter prayed for a husband the Lord put three men in her way, but ultimately the choice was clearly hers!
CRH
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RE: Visions from God, the devil or me? - 8/18/2008 2:23:02 PM
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So if the dream is of future tense and does not involve include past misgivings or ways it can be counted from God.
Oh, so you are saying that if a dream implies a future event, that it MUST be from God? Really? That's not what the fortune tellers will tell you. Or the Wicans or the New Agers. They are always dreaming about future events.
This is no way to ascertain if a dream/vision/what have you is from God.
We are supposed to cast down vain imaginations. I wonder what those are.................
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RE: Visions from God, the devil or me? - 8/18/2008 3:09:30 PM
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delete123
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So if the dream is of future tense and does not involve include past misgivings or ways it can be counted from God.
Oh, so you are saying that if a dream implies a future event, that it MUST be from God? Really? That's not what the fortune tellers will tell you. Or the Wicans or the New Agers. They are always dreaming about future events.
This is no way to ascertain if a dream/vision/what have you is from God.
We are supposed to cast down vain imaginations. I wonder what those are.................
Do not put words in my mouth. I did not say must be from God, I said can be.
I also am offended that you keep referring to my belief as other than what I am. A Born Again Believer, who accepted Christ in 1982 as my personal Saviour and Lord.
If you want to Whack someone with your bible as you have stated in another post, trying using your own head.
I do not seek out fortune tellers and I am certainly not Wiccan or a new ager.
I do however believer that WITH GOD *ALL* Things are POSSIBLE!
It is obvious that we disagree, and Do not Slander my character again.
This is the 2nd time you have offended me without even knowing my belief, simple because it does not coinside with your church doctrine or own faith.
CRH
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RE: Visions from God, the devil or me? - 8/18/2008 4:33:20 PM
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solarflare
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And, I am saying that is not a way to discern whether or not a dream is from God.
No words in your mouth.
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Do not put words in my mouth. I did not say must be from God, I said can be.
I also am offended that you keep referring to my belief as other than what I am. A Born Again Believer, who accepted Christ in 1982 as my personal Saviour and Lord.
If you want to Whack someone with your bible as you have stated in another post, trying using your own head.
I do not seek out fortune tellers and I am certainly not Wiccan or a new ager.
I do however believer that WITH GOD *ALL* Things are POSSIBLE!
It is obvious that we disagree, and Do not Slander my character again.
This is the 2nd time you have offended me without even knowing my belief, simple because it does not coinside with your church doctrine or own faith.
CRH
With all due respect, I have not written any post on this thread with you particularly in mind. I apologize if I unknowingly caused you grief, but what I take exception with is what I posted above. Not your salvation or anything else so I think you may have read a whole lot more into this without any knowledge on my part.
If you would kindly reread my post about the 'whacking', I was stating it should not be done, so, again, I don't know where you got that from.
I think you should please slow down and reread, because I really have not 'accused' you of anything. Thanks
The posts you were referring to have nothing to do with anything you posted. I don't know why you are taking this personally when I have not even addressed you other than one specific item and even then, it really is not a reason to say I am accusing you.
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RE: Visions from God, the devil or me? - 8/21/2008 8:18:05 PM
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To Sindy002, there is nothing wrong with asking God to show you who your mate is. He wants us to seek his face for any decision that we have to make. (Proverbs 3:5-6) says to trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not to your own understanding, but in all your ways acknowledge him and he will direct your path. Jesus also says in (Matt. 7:7) to ask and it will be given.
Think about what would happen if we seek God before we make decisions, there would be less mistakes. I can testify to idavis 58 situation. When I got married in 1994, my husband and I were not saved. I give my life to the Lord in 1999 and because of this we became unequally yoked. We seperated the same week and eventually got a divorce in 2000. I stayed celibate for 7 years after our seperation (with the help of the Holy Spirit) while he moved in with the woman he had left me for.
In my time of singleness I devoted my life to the Lord and fulltime ministry. I did not know what would happen between my ex-husband and me or if I would meet someone else but I knew (that with God all things are possible). I could remember telling the Lord that if my husband and I were meant to be together then to please change him and send him back, which he did in Jan 2006, and we renewed our vows in April 2007. I did not chase him, neither did I call Him, he came back to me because I asked God to let His will be done.
Do not focus too much on what you do not have, God says if you delight yourself in Him, he would give you the desires of your heart. If you seek first His kingdom and his righteousness all these things would be added unto you. Your father knows what you have need of. When the time is right God will send you your husband for the Bible says, he that findeth a wife findeth a good thing and obtaineth favor from the Lord. God knows where you are and when the time is right He will bring him to you, God bless you and keep the faith.
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RE: Visions from God, the devil or me? - 8/21/2008 8:44:49 PM
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To Sindy002, God does speak to us in dreams and visions but what you need to do is test them with the word of God. As I recently told you about God reuniting my husband and me. There were a lot of dreams and visions that I had concerning my husband and myself that came to pass and some are yet to be fulfilled. Do not let anyone (try and kill your dreams as with joseph and his jealous brothers) (Gen.37). You must also be careful who you tell your dreams and visions to( this also includes Christians). What the Holy Spirit told me to do years ago was to write the dreams and visions that I had (as he told Habakkuk) and when they were fulfilled, I was to put a check next to them and put the date that it was fulfilled. This would keep the doubters quiet because then you have proof that the Lord showed it to you.
Be encourage my sister in Christ, I know what it feels like to want a mate, but God did it for me and He will do it for you. In the meantime, ask the Holy Spirit for his help in staying celibate because if he kept me for 7 long years then He can surely keep. To some people 7 years may seem like a long time, it was for me, but they went pretty quick because I kept my mind on God and his word. God bless.
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RE: Visions from God, the devil or me? - 9/5/2008 8:15:56 PM
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Hello -Sindy 2 -church;
How lovely to hear the Holy Spirit is talking to you in dream form. I like that!
Yes, we need to test the spirits, to see if the message comes from the Lord. A good way to do that is to thank and praise God for speaking to you, and then put this dream on the shelf, and continue on with your walk with God and with serving Him. (in other words give thanks in advance for your christian mate and then continue in your walk with God and dont let this distract you.
Our adversary wants to distract you and get you going on things focussing there and not on God.
God has something for you right now, which he doesnt want you looking way down the road and living in the future about.
I understand what it is like to receive a dream like that, as I received a waking vision with a similar message. It was about a man I had met, who was a christian and who lived in my area- vicinity.
I asked the Lord in discouragement, if He had a mate for me and if I could see hi too. I asked to see his picture. While I was praying this in earnest I wast at my Dad's house and had just popped in a recorded christian even with preaching, but they were in worship- as I prayed this in earnest, waiting to hear the preaching, I was in the middle of asking this from the Lord, and lo! and behold!
the camera singled out one person and zoomed in on him, and stayed there for about 10 minutes straight, whereas it had been not holding on any one person previously and stayed at a distance from everyone, so no one prior was in a one-shot at all, and no one had the cam on them for any longer than a couple seconds, this guy had the cam on him for a full 10 mins and it was zoomed in on him so that only him was in the frame.
God has a sense of humour, did you know?
I asked to see his picture and I saw it.
Since then there has been nothing but opposition and trouble any time I even speak to to this person, there has been such a spiritual battle, you have no idea.
This actually is a good sign, because what is from God and what disturbs the opposition the most, making them attack the most, is something very very good. They hate when we get those things, the very very good things.! So they fight harder.
Also christian marriage is a picture of us and the Lord in our bridal and groom covenant and the spiritual opposition would like to wipe that out out completely, wipe out all christiand marriages, one other reason is for the power of agreement in prayed with a man and wife, there is nothing stronger in prayer than that on the earth, and the enemy HATES it, they can't win against that.
Unity in marriage, love in marriage, Gods love showing in marriage, these are all beautiful things that show God, and that the spiritual opposition fights hard against.
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RE: Visions from God, the devil or me? - 9/5/2008 8:43:39 PM
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The Bible is full of what God wants us to do: love Him, love our neighbor, love the brethren, be honest, don't sin, confess if you do and rejoice that you belong to Him. I don't see anywhere that God tells us to ask for future information. In times past He volunteered it in the Bible, but the canon was closed over 1500 years ago (and we hardly understand it anyway!  )
Sure, you can ask, but it doesn't look like something God majors in. In Hebrews 11:1, He says "Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen." Our faith is in what it cannot see. So God may show you something, but it seems more likely He wants you to be sure of His goodness to you and wait patiently for what is coming.
I love Psalm 84:11 "No good thing will He withhold
From those who walk uprightly."
I understand your desires, Sindy. I didn't marry until really late, and my husband was worth the wait! I've no doubt yours will be, too. Keep your standards high and trust God to get you through the next 5 minutes. When the right guy comes along things will start happening and you'll soon know it. May it be soon, in God's will! (((Hugs)))
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RE: Visions from God, the devil or me? - 9/6/2008 2:43:25 PM
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RE: Visions from God, the devil or me? - 9/6/2008 7:42:35 PM
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Sindy002, Some believe in Dispensationalism and on top of that, believe that God never gives visions, never talks at all outside the bible. Out of those people, some will be gentle in presenting their belief system to you, others will not be so gentle presenting their belief system to you.
Proverbs 29:18 is an interesting verse to read up on for you.
I am not going to tell you where your vision came from...God..the devil..your lunch you ate yesterday...
I will tell you only that in my own life, I have had visions and seen them come to fruition. So I am unable to say that this can not be a possibility for you. I have also seen some things not come to fruition.
I was told be a few deacons in my church, that it is providence when I sense/see something in the future and it comes to pass. It is not prophecy to them, as they see that adding to Scripture.
I do not have a solid grasp on all this yet...but I will tell you to trust in the LORD and not worry about what it all means. God will reveal to you when the time is right.
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"He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." -Jim Elliot
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RE: Visions from God, the devil or me? - 9/13/2008 5:56:09 PM
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You didn't. :)
The person who started it hasn't even been here since 8-13. Someone else posted in it before you to bring it up after it sat for 2 weeks.
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