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RE: Racial Issues in the News - One Stop Thread - 5/1/2008 8:11:27 AM   
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Any idea what it cost to employ a federal employee? Let alone the system itself... Like I said... A drop in the bucket



It always boils down to cold hard cash. "In God We Trust"?


How much do you think these illegals have to pay others to smuggle them across? It is much more than $1000. Believe it! The whole argument is not based solely on money. What about lack of healthcare for citizens? What about the overtaxed Medicaid system? What about the percentage of illegals who are breaking laws and being incarcerated? What about respect for the law to begin with?

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RE: Racial Issues in the News - One Stop Thread - 5/1/2008 8:28:47 AM   
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It always boils down to cold hard cash. "In God We Trust"?


You are always free to set an example with yours
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RE: Racial Issues in the News - One Stop Thread - 5/1/2008 12:34:43 PM   
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Any idea what it cost to employ a federal employee? Let alone the system itself... Like I said... A drop in the bucket



It always boils down to cold hard cash. "In God We Trust"?



I never complained about the cost, I just made the point of who is actually paying for it...

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RE: Racial Issues in the News - One Stop Thread - 5/1/2008 6:12:30 PM   
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Would an American put up with being treated as a criminal when you try to do things the right way, the legal way?

You're fingerprinted and photographed because you "may" be a criminal. You have to fill out tons of forms that have the same information on each one.


You mean like I had to do for my last three jobs or when i joined the military or like I had to do this past week to meet the criteria for a TWIC card so that i can continue to work at my present location?


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Women have to strip naked and be leered at and fondled (inspected) by male "health" technicians (more like government paid perverts).


You mean getting a physical like i had to do for the last three jobs and every year at my current job and to join the military and every year i was in the military. Some of those times I was even given my physical by female doctors, oh the horror.
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RE: Racial Issues in the News - One Stop Thread - 5/2/2008 5:11:10 PM   
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The OTHER African-American perspective...


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Obama, following in the footsteps of his white ancestors, is also part of the Democratic Party that: (1) fought to keep blacks in slavery; (2) started the Ku Klux Klan to lynch and terrorize Republicans—black and white; (3) passed the discriminatory Black Codes and Jim Crow laws; (4) fought every piece of civil rights legislation from the 1860's to the 1960's; and (5) attacked Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. and other civil rights protesters with skin-burning fire hoses and vicious dogs.


http://www.nationalblackrepublicans.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=pages.DYK-Obama%20Blind%20Spot&tp_preview=true

http://www.nationalblackrepublicans.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=pages.DYK-Why%20MLK%20was%20a%20Republican&tp_preview=true

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RE: Racial Issues in the News - One Stop Thread - 5/2/2008 5:17:28 PM   
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The OTHER African-American perspective...


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Obama, following in the footsteps of his white ancestors, is also part of the Democratic Party that: (1) fought to keep blacks in slavery; (2) started the Ku Klux Klan to lynch and terrorize Republicans—black and white; (3) passed the discriminatory Black Codes and Jim Crow laws; (4) fought every piece of civil rights legislation from the 1860's to the 1960's; and (5) attacked Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. and other civil rights protesters with skin-burning fire hoses and vicious dogs.




sign.........., anyone that has studied why the whites in the south left the Democrat Party and went to the Republican Party. they just had a good documentery on the weather channel, (when weather changed history)when the flood of 1927 hit NO, and Louisiana, the one where the Gov't did prove to blow up leveees, you should have watched it, it showed why blacks started leaving the Republican Party after Lincoln had treated us so good by freeing us.


Goggle?

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RE: Racial Issues in the News - One Stop Thread - 5/2/2008 5:38:35 PM   
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The OTHER African-American perspective...


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Obama, following in the footsteps of his white ancestors, is also part of the Democratic Party that: (1) fought to keep blacks in slavery; (2) started the Ku Klux Klan to lynch and terrorize Republicans—black and white; (3) passed the discriminatory Black Codes and Jim Crow laws; (4) fought every piece of civil rights legislation from the 1860's to the 1960's; and (5) attacked Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. and other civil rights protesters with skin-burning fire hoses and vicious dogs.




sign.........., anyone that has studied why the whites in the south left the Democrat Party and went to the Republican Party. they just had a good documentery on the weather channel, (when weather changed history)when the flood of 1927 hit NO, and Louisiana, the one where the Gov't did prove to blow up leveees, you should have watched it, it showed why blacks started leaving the Republican Party after Lincoln had treated us so good by freeing us.


Goggle?


interesting in light of how the 1950's and 1960's saw much more of the Democratic party fighting tooth and nail against the Civil Rights laws, just as it did in the 1860's when it forced secession. Men like JFK and Al Gore were voting down every piece of civil rights legislation to come to the floor and Robert Byrd (yes, the same Robert Byrd that perches in Congress today) was dead opposed to the 1964 monumental legislation.

Many of those white Dem/Dixiecrats stayed in the Democratic party and sorta did their own thing as States' Rights Democrats with the ideology that they'd rather vote for a yellow dog than a Republican because the GOP was then known as the party for Blacks.

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RE: Racial Issues in the News - One Stop Thread - 5/2/2008 7:07:30 PM   
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interesting in light of how the 1950's and 1960's saw much more of the Democratic party fighting tooth and nail against the Civil Rights laws, just as it did in the 1860's when it forced secession. Men like JFK and Al Gore were voting down every piece of civil rights legislation to come to the floor and Robert Byrd (yes, the same Robert Byrd that perches in Congress today) was dead opposed to the 1964 monumental legislation.

Many of those white Dem/Dixiecrats stayed in the Democratic party and sorta did their own thing as States' Rights Democrats with the ideology that they'd rather vote for a yellow dog than a Republican because the GOP was then known as the party for Blacks.





sign....... ok the blacks started leaving the Repubs starting 1927, they finished about the 1960's, 1970's.

I agree, Democrats are no better than Repubs.

Bo is more than a Democrat. I don't care for him. I believe him to be Rev. 13.

What is your point exactly?

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RE: Racial Issues in the News - One Stop Thread - 9/19/2008 11:38:56 AM   
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"Martin Luther King once dreamed of a day when people would be judged by the content of their character and not the color of their skin. Sadly for Barack Obama, that day has arrived."
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RE: Racial Issues in the News - One Stop Thread - 9/19/2008 4:29:34 PM   
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I don't care for the content of Obama's character. I think it is disgusting that he plays the race card so much. Sometimes he tries to disguise it as other things. However, "if you put lipstick on a pig...."
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RE: Racial Issues in the News - One Stop Thread - 9/19/2008 4:42:52 PM   
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Let's not forget he's half white.

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RE: Racial Issues in the News - One Stop Thread - 9/19/2008 7:45:27 PM   
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Will the membership of the KKK enlarge if Obama wins?

Will racism cease to exist if Obama wins?

Will every minority issue be addressed if Obama wins?

Who, and how many, will cry racism when Obama loses?

Will there be riots if Obama loses....or wins?

More white people will vote for Obama than black people...does that mean we are not a racist nation anymore?

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RE: Racial Issues in the News - One Stop Thread - 9/20/2008 10:32:22 AM   
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Let's not forget he's half white.


1) Why not forget?
2) "Black" is an ethnicity (among other things), and he's as black as he wants to be. As far as I can tell, he's black with a white mother. Arguments (and tests) about racial purity are both infantile and archaic.
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RE: Racial Issues in the News - One Stop Thread - 9/20/2008 10:40:32 AM   
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I don't care for the content of Obama's character. I think it is disgusting that he plays the race card so much. Sometimes he tries to disguise it as other things.


I think people tend to read the race card into things he says because of the color of his skin. Also, merely accusing someone of "playing the race card" is often more politically powerful than actually playing said card.
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RE: Racial Issues in the News - One Stop Thread - 9/20/2008 11:06:41 AM   
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I don't care for the content of Obama's character. I think it is disgusting that he plays the race card so much. Sometimes he tries to disguise it as other things.


I think people tend to read the race card into things he says because of the color of his skin. Also, merely accusing someone of "playing the race card" is often more politically powerful than actually playing said card.

Obama, himself, has been reminding people in his speeches that he is black, that he has a "funny sounding name", etc. It is reminiscent of John Kerry constantly reminding people he fought in Vietnam. Is Obama insecure in his "blackness" because he is mixed race?

McCain has NEVER said anything racially provocative in this campaign.

If Obama has his supporters are so racially sensitive maybe they would help themselves out if they would simply shut up about this issue because it is obviously NOT coming from the McCain camp.
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RE: Racial Issues in the News - One Stop Thread - 9/20/2008 11:14:43 AM   
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Seems like the news media plays the race card too. The headline this morning as I log onto the internet reads "Racial views steer some white dems away from Obama." It almost seems like the media is trying to perpetuate the race issue, to pit people against one another.

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RE: Racial Issues in the News - One Stop Thread - 9/20/2008 11:17:22 AM   
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Let's not forget he's half white.


1) Why not forget?
2) "Black" is an ethnicity (among other things), and he's as black as he wants to be. As far as I can tell, he's black with a white mother. Arguments (and tests) about racial purity are both infantile and archaic.

I think black and white people can equally embrace the part of Obama that is like them. I find it offensive when someone of mixed race denies one half of their ancestry. Obama can call himself just black all day long, but the truth is that one parent is black--African, in fact--and the other is white.

Seems like his campaign would be more effective if he said, "I'm white like you and black like you" to his potential voters, not alienating half of them.

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RE: Racial Issues in the News - One Stop Thread - 9/20/2008 1:35:27 PM   
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I get so tired of hearing in sports , news what ever.. "THE FIRST BLACK _________"

Why do we have to see color? Aren't they a person first and foremost? Isn't that demeaning to blacks? It's like some sort of verbal reparation ... they weren't the first! but they were the first black at something and gosh darn it, Good for them!

I think it's sad to be qualified in one's acheivement that way.
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RE: Racial Issues in the News - One Stop Thread - 9/20/2008 1:36:02 PM   
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Orlando is mostly Puerto Rican. South Florida is more Cuban and Columbian, and also a lot of Puerto Ricans (which, due to their commonwealth status, are Americans just like Billy Bob born in Alabama...).


How do you know the difference? I can't tell. My mother is Portugeuse and French-Canadian. She speaks spanish, I can't tell or for that fact myself from alot of Puerto Ricans, Cubans or Colombians.


Appearances are something that can be tricky. From your picture I would have never guessed that you were Hispanic at all!! You are a pretty girl I thought that you were an Black American like me. I know that Hispanics sometimes do have African genes along with Indian and Caucasian, that's because Hispanics is not really a race per say. Hispanic is many cultures of people.Most American blacks, such as I ,are mixed blood people also. I have Indian,Caucasian and African genes running in my blood also. The main difference between, some not all , Hispanics and African-Americans is the proportion of Indian ,African, and Caucasian genes and also the influence of Spanish heritage verses African. I could be off track, I stand corrected if I am wrong.


Here is the link to get to know the African-Latin Americans populations: Afro-Latin Americans


It is very much interesting to see how it plays, for exemple inside Cuba, there is a black Cuba and there is the Hispanic "whiter" Cuba. Because my own country heritage I do identify and find familiar with African influences better than Spanish inside cultures.

About knowing the difference between the Hispanics as Cubans and Puerto Ricans to those who does not speak the language and there is not a clue around, maybe by the way they speak English and how fast they speak Spanish is "impossible" to understand...between the Latin Americans the Argentinias to myself are the easier to spot on, as to my ears, they speak a Spanish that sounds Italian and very very elegant particularly when males are speaking, the masculine tone of voice beautify the language, at least to my ears.

Even between the English speakers some have their preferences of accents generaly I like the British (from educated not royal people) and South Africans, best. Ah the Islanders English can be charming and musical also.
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RE: Racial Issues in the News - One Stop Thread - 9/20/2008 1:39:30 PM   
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Will the membership of the KKK enlarge if Obama wins?


There is not enough real Klansmen in the USA to have a decent cross burning anymore!.

I doubt they could muster the numbers to qualify for a Fourth of July wienie
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RE: Racial Issues in the News - One Stop Thread - 9/20/2008 2:03:03 PM   
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How much do you think these illegals have to pay others to smuggle them across? It is much more than $1000. Believe it!


Yep, it sure is. Couple of years ago Brazilian tv channel did a report about Brazilians crossing the borders, in prison and interviews etc As I dont have or did have the Brazilian cable to see the whole thing but just bits of it at the net..the cost was 10.000, and up, because the distance Brazil and US border of course, they have to pay flights and more coyotes then the Mexicans neighbors to cross it. The individual drama of people telling their stories was heartbraking particularly among those who were older persons, too young and attractive female without male companion, I conclude that just the ones really desperate do cross it. You can die or almost there, be raped by few or many...Thank God after an agreement between US and Brazilian Govs the Brazilian flux of crossing it by Brazilians went amazingly down few years ago.


You know as an immigrant what I hate most about illegal immigration are the con artists who crosses the border, the plain dishonest and criminal individuals who arrives here and start their many plots, they are used to in their own many lands. Many broke the system in criminal ways of falsifications of all sorts and etc. Those individual criminals really messed up, giving bad names to their own communities with their plain criminal plots and actions. Bandits are bandits no excuses!
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RE: Racial Issues in the News - One Stop Thread - 9/20/2008 9:00:16 PM   
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This is Satans world and that means evil , As far as Ethnicity http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_group
I am of the Human Race not the Nascar race or the horse race or any other race, Cut me i bleed red if you dont your not human . We as Christians Love every ETHNICITY no matter were thay came from ,We as Americans are of the world and are not being Christanlike in our opinions. We fight evil and crush Satan and all who follow him using Spiritualpowers of combat. If we Follow the Word of our God we live in Love. The border patrol and Laws or for the evil not the just in America and all other countries. This country is a Melting Pot of all Ethnicity including Christians who are the crystal ( clear ) ones ,of our Gods word. Why we humans want to put other humans of diffrent skin tones in a race is boyond me. We have diffrent Ethnic backgrounds so we like diffrent things diffrent ways but our God in Heaven loves us all the same. It nice to be a American but it is nothing like being a Christian, I can love you even if you hate me , I do agree with most posts here just want to deposit some more to think about ,God Bless us all. Try to see with ((transparent)) eyes,( a few definitions,)****** Letting all the light through so that objects on the other side can be seen clearly .***** See-through, clear; having the property that light passes through it almost undisturbed, such that one can see through it clearly; Open, public; having the property that theories and practices are publicly visible, thereby reducing the chance of corruption; Obvious; readily apparent; easy to ...

God sees us the same way no matter were your from ,how you got here and your skin tone, its Transparent with Love and Forgiveness. God be with us all , for all our days ,tell were called home to be With you in HEAVEN.
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RE: Racial Issues in the News - One Stop Thread - 9/20/2008 9:30:45 PM   
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RE: Racial Issues in the News - One Stop Thread - 9/20/2008 10:16:16 PM   
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Seems like the news media plays the race card too. The headline this morning as I log onto the internet reads "Racial views steer some white dems away from Obama." It almost seems like the media is trying to perpetuate the race issue, to pit people against one another.

The media is so far in the tank for Obama. I was watching a television show where they played the different interviews between Obama and McCain. McCain is treated terrible while they are all so excited to have Obama and treat him with the such respect.

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RE: Racial Issues in the News - One Stop Thread - 9/22/2008 5:57:57 AM   
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