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Hence cometh...the Dream Interpreters - 10/30/2007 11:49:22 AM
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You would think I was as far from any potential Christian controversy as I could get, this past weekend, when I visited our local Renaissance Faire. Oh, there's usually some attempt at redeeming this event in a God-fearing way, such as the kilted man playing "Amazing Grace" on his bagpipes. Largely though it's dragons, fantasy, knights, witches perhaps...so I was surprised when I was approached by the dream interpreters *(who said they attend a local church which the pastor has described as "Third Wave").
The dream interpreters of course need a dream to interpret (I was thinking, as a mythical vampire needs blood, but that may be too extreme an analogy for some  ). I observed them ask some personal get-to-know-you questions of a man who told them he was a Catholic. I told a little about myself as well and we realized the dream interpreters and I knew some of the same people. The nice Catholic man just smiled as they attempted to coax a dream our of him. When they asked me, I responded with a question, "How do you know if it's not just too much pizza and spaghetti?" Interpreter one said that was not Scriptural, the Bible doesn't say that and all dreams have meaning. Interpreter two never said much but they explained they work as a team to play off of each other. I told her surely you would know if a dream were from God and not just a normal dream and the Catholic man interjected "Yes, there _is_ a difference between a dream from God and a normal dream."
The Dream lady's cell phone rang and I thanked the Catholic man for visiting our town as the dream ladies bid their "Nice to meet you" and I responded in kind. See, this is Alabama so we're all nice and polite.
So let me throw it out there for you and see what you guys and gals think.
Is every dream from God, with hidden meaning for your life?
Is there such a ministry or activity for Christians as seeking to interpret people's dreams?
Is there enough in Scripture to justify looking for messages in dreams all the time or does Scripture show that a message from God is significant and different?
Has anyone here come across Christian dream interpreters?
This is wide open for any kinds of comments.
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RE: Hence cometh...the Dream Interpreters - 10/30/2007 12:30:26 PM
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Hi wintery!
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Is every dream from God, with hidden meaning for your life?
A definitive NO.
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Is there such a ministry or activity for Christians as seeking to interpret people's dreams?
Based on what scriptures??
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Is there enough in Scripture to justify looking for messages in dreams all the time or does Scripture show that a message from God is significant and different?
Definitely the latter. Judging by the examples in the Bible, I would also say that messages from God through dreams are not a commonplace event.
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Has anyone here come across Christian dream interpreters?
On other forums and websites, yes, I have seen dreams posted and 'interpreted'. They seem to have turned it into a form of occult science, and I see no Biblical basis for the interpretations given. I'm also sure someone could call the Psychic Friends Network and get pretty much the same responses. 
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RE: Hence cometh...the Dream Interpreters - 10/30/2007 3:27:06 PM
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I have had some odd dreams and discussed them with other believers.
It turned out to be helpful, but NOT because the dream had a hidden message from God or foretold something. The dream just seemed to have some analogies to real life situations and having the discussion was helpful.
I would hesitate to go any deeper than that with dreams.
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RE: Hence cometh...the Dream Interpreters - 10/30/2007 8:07:53 PM
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Do you believe that it's unbiblical to interpret dreams and that scripture speaks against it?
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They seem to have turned it into a form of occult science, and I see no Biblical basis for the interpretations given.
When Joseph interpreted dreams, did the Spirit of God give him the interpretations? And did all the interpretations he was given have a scripture that he could have based his interpretations on, or did the Spirit give him the interpretation straight out of God's heart and there was no verse in the Torah that he was getting his interpretations from?
I'm just curious, if God was able to give people interpretations in the past, why could he not do it now?
Does the Bible have symbols, numbers and objects that mean certain things that can mean that thing almost everytime it's used in something? For instance, people usually refer to the #6 as the number of man, and the #3 is the number for perfection (trinity). Do you not believe that there are some people who are given supernatural understanding of things that others are not given? Or are we all given the exact same revelations, understanding, and glimpses into the spirit realm as everyone else?
Just curious.....
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RE: Hence cometh...the Dream Interpreters - 10/30/2007 9:30:03 PM
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You would think I was as far from any potential Christian controversy as I could get, this past weekend, when I visited our local Renaissance Faire. Oh, there's usually some attempt at redeeming this event in a God-fearing way, such as the kilted man playing "Amazing Grace" on his bagpipes. Largely though it's dragons, fantasy, knights, witches perhaps...so I was surprised when I was approached by the dream interpreters *(who said they attend a local church which the pastor has described as "Third Wave").
The dream interpreters of course need a dream to interpret (I was thinking, as a mythical vampire needs blood, but that may be too extreme an analogy for some ). I observed them ask some personal get-to-know-you questions of a man who told them he was a Catholic. I told a little about myself as well and we realized the dream interpreters and I knew some of the same people. The nice Catholic man just smiled as they attempted to coax a dream our of him. When they asked me, I responded with a question, "How do you know if it's not just too much pizza and spaghetti?" Interpreter one said that was not Scriptural, the Bible doesn't say that and all dreams have meaning. Interpreter two never said much but they explained they work as a team to play off of each other. I told her surely you would know if a dream were from God and not just a normal dream and the Catholic man interjected "Yes, there _is_ a difference between a dream from God and a normal dream."
The Dream lady's cell phone rang and I thanked the Catholic man for visiting our town as the dream ladies bid their "Nice to meet you" and I responded in kind. See, this is Alabama so we're all nice and polite.
So let me throw it out there for you and see what you guys and gals think.
Is every dream from God, with hidden meaning for your life?
No way to much Freud in that for me to deal with. Dreams are just dreams, what I notice about the dreams I remember is that they were about what I was deal with during the day. Nothing hidden or mystical about them at all.
Is there such a ministry or activity for Christians as seeking to interpret people's dreams?
No even if you believe that the sign gifts are for today there is no mention of a dream interperting as a gift of the Spirit.
Is there enough in Scripture to justify looking for messages in dreams all the time or does Scripture show that a message from God is significant and different?
No if you notice that every time someone is interperting dreams they were living in Gentiles communities. Joseph in Egypt and Daniel in Babyalon. Again there is nothing that talks about dream interpertation in the NT.
Has anyone here come across Christian dream interpreters?
Isn't that an oxymoron?
This is wide open for any kinds of comments.
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RE: Hence cometh...the Dream Interpreters - 10/30/2007 9:38:40 PM
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Yes I have come across several Christian dream interpreters. I will also tell you that I have seen several people recieve dream interpretations from the same that were not only accurate but touched the person in a very profound way. I will politely decline to name the ministries or give examples because there is very little point in displaying a bunch of stuff that has already happened and was clearly an act of God, just to have it reduced to the level-eyed scrutiny of a few. I do think that God can and does communicate through dreams, but I don't think every single dream an individual has is going to be an earth shattering revelation. I think I will also decline to answer the argument that just because dream interpretation doesn't appear in the NT means it doesn't exist anymore. I have stated my opinion, and that is enough.
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RE: Hence cometh...the Dream Interpreters - 10/30/2007 10:24:08 PM
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I think that since Paul quoted Joel, that in the end days the Spirit would come and give people dreams and visions, then definately God still gives dreams; and since the OT has many examples of dreams that needed interpretation, then God is teaching us with these stories that some of our dreams definately will need interpretation. And since there is a gift of the interpretation of tongues and gifts of the words of knowledge and wisdom, then God is fully able to give people the needed knowledge and wisdom to interpret dreams today.
I do know of dream interpreters who have a lot of understanding of the symbols and types in scripture, something that dream interpreters find helpful to know. And I do know of those who have had dreams interpreted who have been so struck by God's message to them through their dream that they gave their life to Christ via the dream interpreters leading them. Which of course is the whole reason for dream interpretation and prophesying to unbelievers - to let them know that God knows about them and cares deeply for them and to find an open door for sharing the gospel.
I do not have that gift, but I've seen enough people who have giftings far beyond anything I've ever experienced to know not to hold those things in disdain. God is very powerfully supernatural and He moves supernaturally through any christian who makes himself available to God......at least that's been my experience over the 30 years I've been a christian.
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RE: Hence cometh...the Dream Interpreters - 10/30/2007 10:47:07 PM
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I think that since Paul quoted Joel, that in the end days the Spirit would come and give people dreams and visions, then definately God still gives dreams; and since the OT has many examples of dreams that needed interpretation, then God is teaching us with these stories that some of our dreams definately will need interpretation. And since there is a gift of the interpretation of tongues and gifts of the words of knowledge and wisdom, then God is fully able to give people the needed knowledge and wisdom to interpret dreams today.
I do know of dream interpreters who have a lot of understanding of the symbols and types in scripture, something that dream interpreters find helpful to know. And I do know of those who have had dreams interpreted who have been so struck by God's message to them through their dream that they gave their life to Christ via the dream interpreters leading them. Which of course is the whole reason for dream interpretation and prophesying to unbelievers - to let them know that God knows about them and cares deeply for them and to find an open door for sharing the gospel.
I do not have that gift, but I've seen enough people who have giftings far beyond anything I've ever experienced to know not to hold those things in disdain. God is very powerfully supernatural and He moves supernaturally through any christian who makes himself available to God......at least that's been my experience over the 30 years I've been a christian.
2 people that interpret dreams is not what I would call many examples. yes they may have interpreted 9 dreams between the 2 of them but the fact still remains we only have 2 people in the Bible that interpreted dreams. No where in the NT do we have any mention of dream interpertation as a gift of the Holy Spirit. FYI it was Peter that quoted Joel not Paul.
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RE: Hence cometh...the Dream Interpreters - 10/30/2007 11:00:51 PM
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We aren't allowed to interpret here, but that is probably because of all the "new age" interpretations (like black meaning death junk), or maybe just bad advice that people take wrong when everyone "takes a stab at it". Some can probably ruin someone's life if they try to act on what someone said.
Yes, I know there are Christian interpreters, but nowadays, if it was a message for you, you will probably know what it meant. I don't know of any actual Christian interpreter services that people can go to.
I'm also pretty sure that not all dreams are a message from God.
Dreams do have a way of using things and colors to resemble emotions, situations, thoughts, etc.. If you are scared of something, your mind will employ it, but will use imagery instead of showing exactly what it was. It's unconciousness, not memories.
I do believe I've had 2 that were spiritually inspired (that I know of over several years), and they were pretty obviously so once I figured out what was what, and connected them to what was going on in my life.
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RE: Hence cometh...the Dream Interpreters - 10/30/2007 11:34:43 PM
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Dreams are random, sub- and concious brain firings. A billboard you didn't even notice passing earlier. Concerns about your boss' opinion of you.
Is every dream from God, with hidden meaning for your life?
No. It might have meaning, if you take the time to figure out what's going on with your brain and emotions, to lead to what you dreamed about, but it's much more empirical than some sort of "message" from God.
Is there such a ministry or activity for Christians as seeking to interpret people's dreams?
No. Someone trained in psychology, who can help someone pick apart what all pops up while they sleep, sure. But not some sort of "spiritual gift."
Is there enough in Scripture to justify looking for messages in dreams all the time or does Scripture show that a message from God is significant and different?
I think you can learn from your dreams, "Wow, my job is really stressing me out more than I want to admit." But no, there's no messages from God.
Has anyone here come across Christian dream interpreters?
No, and if I did, I wouldn't actually think they were such a thing.
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RE: Hence cometh...the Dream Interpreters - 10/31/2007 12:26:43 AM
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2 people that interpret dreams is not what I would call many examples. yes they may have interpreted 9 dreams between the 2 of them but the fact still remains we only have 2 people in the Bible that interpreted dreams. No where in the NT do we have any mention of dream interpertation as a gift of the Holy Spirit. FYI it was Peter that quoted Joel not Paul.
Oops, my mistake, Peter then.
I don't believe that it's the number of times something is mentioned in the bible that matters, just one example in the bible is enough to teach us something God wants us to know about. So it doesn't matter that there were only 2 people who interpreted dreams, the fact that God uses ALL of scripture, even that one example, to teach us about Him and also about how He works through humans is enough. It's my understanding that it doesn't need to be shown in the NT if the OT has examples of it.
I'm certain there were thousands of instances where God spoke to people in dreams through the OT and NT, but God only wrote one book so He chose which handful of things He wanted to put in it. Just as the world could not contain all the books that could be filled with all the things that Jesus has done, thus God chose only a few things that Jesus did to put in the book, so, too, the world could not contain all the books that could be filled by God's deeds and His interactions with humans.
Or do you believe that God only did the things written in the bible and nothing else? Or that God only spoke to the people written about in the bible and never spoke to anyone else? That's an interesting viewpoint. 
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RE: Hence cometh...the Dream Interpreters - 10/31/2007 12:29:05 AM
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I don't know of any actual Christian interpreter services that people can go to.
Neither do I . That would be pretty funny, and sad I suppose, if christians ran things like that. But I've never seen anything like that, so I can't comment on it. It's a good thing that those who have this gift that I"ve seen listen to the prompting of the Holy Spirit and only speak the words they feel the Holy Spirit leading them to say....
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I'm also pretty sure that not all dreams are a message from God.
Absolutely agree there! Most dreams are just our souls cleaning themselves out from all the stuff we're doing and watching throughout the day. But even that process is cleansing to us and brings a kind of refreshing I think.
I don't get too many God-dreams. Only about 1 every 3 months, which is hardly ever. But they are very different from regular dreams. The presence of God is very strong in the dreams and every detail stands out, so much so, that I can remember every detail months, even years later, as if I just had the dream last night. It's fun to move in the Holy Spirit and see how God speaks to us! I know I'm hungry to know God more and love to experience more of Him, including the supernatural things that He has for His children, since we are now supernatural, born-again beings.
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RE: Hence cometh...the Dream Interpreters - 10/31/2007 12:45:15 AM
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2 people that interpret dreams is not what I would call many examples. yes they may have interpreted 9 dreams between the 2 of them but the fact still remains we only have 2 people in the Bible that interpreted dreams. No where in the NT do we have any mention of dream interpertation as a gift of the Holy Spirit. FYI it was Peter that quoted Joel not Paul.
Oops, my mistake, Peter then.
I don't believe that it's the number of times something is mentioned in the bible that matters, just one example in the bible is enough to teach us something God wants us to know about. So it doesn't matter that there were only 2 people who interpreted dreams, the fact that God uses ALL of scripture, even that one example, to teach us about Him and also about how He works through humans is enough. It's my understanding that it doesn't need to be shown in the NT if the OT has examples of it.
I'm certain there were thousands of instances where God spoke to people in dreams through the OT and NT, but God only wrote one book so He chose which handful of things He wanted to put in it. Just as the world could not contain all the books that could be filled with all the things that Jesus has done, thus God chose only a few things that Jesus did to put in the book, so, too, the world could not contain all the books that could be filled by God's deeds and His interactions with humans.
Or do you believe that God only did the things written in the bible and nothing else? Or that God only spoke to the people written about in the bible and never spoke to anyone else? That's an interesting viewpoint.
I believe God can do what ever He wants but He also is consitent with The Bible. If Dream Interperation was a gift of the Spirit why is it not mentioned in any of the NT book. especially in any of the Epistles or in any chapter that deals with Spiritual Gifts. Dreams are just not mentioned in the NT except when Peter is quoting Joel and that is just about old men dreaming dreams nothing about interpertation, that would have to be read into the text.
Everything I have read on here so far from people that believe in Dream interpretation sounds just like what I heard in my pych 101 class about Freuds dream theory. Christianity and Freud are things that just don't mix.
As I mentioned before the 2 people we have that do interpert dreams both lived in Gentile cultures. Jews historicly just don't place a lot of stock in dreams, but Gentiles do. Also the dreams had to deal with what was going to go on in the world, ex. 7 years of plenty and 7 years of fammin, rise and fall of major empires. Not a personal word to that person. So I would say based on the dreams we do have interpreted in the Bible, that if God is going to give someone a dream, its going to have meaning that effects a huge number of people around them if not the whole world, not a personal word to them that they need interpreted by a third party. God speaks to us through His word, not some symbols that my subconsious digs up from my day during in my dreams.
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RE: Hence cometh...the Dream Interpreters - 10/31/2007 1:02:41 AM
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I believe God can do what ever He wants but He also is consitent with The Bible. If Dream Interperation was a gift of the Spirit why is it not mentioned in any of the NT book.
I guess I don't see it as being "inconsistent" for God to show us an example in the OT and not repeat it in the NT. One example is enough for us to learn what God wants to teach us. In the OT it says that He makes our feet like Hinds feet to walk on high places, but that isn't repeated in the NT, so does that mean that God won't do the same for us in our walk with Christ because He doesn't repeat it in the NT?
I guess I'm of a different belief than you are on this occasion.
I don't know that I would call it a 'gift of the Holy Spirit', but dreams are definately one form of communication that God uses with people (even unbelievers), and the bible does give us examples of dreams sometimes needing an interpreter. So that's where I get my understanding.
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Everything I have read on here so far from people that believe in Dream interpretation sounds just like what I heard in my pych 101 class about Freuds dream theory. Christianity and Freud are things that just don't mix.
I have always believed that satan tends to produce counterfeits of things that are true, so it doesn't worry me that psych classes or Freud would teach this. And also there are some natural laws about dreams, they really do relate to our lives so I don't think it's too difficult for people of any belief systems or lack of belief, to understand a few basic things about dreams.
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RE: Hence cometh...the Dream Interpreters - 10/31/2007 1:13:20 AM
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So I would say based on the dreams we do have interpreted in the Bible, that if God is going to give someone a dream, its going to have meaning that effects a huge number of people around them if not the whole world, not a personal word to them that they need interpreted by a third party.
I believe God shows us differently in Genesis 40, where the baker and the cupbearer of the king each had a personal dream that only affected them and they needed Joseph to interpret it because they did not understand them. So again, with this one example, God is teaching us that sometimes dreams are very personal and we do sometimes need someone else to interpret for us. At least that's what I understand with these.
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RE: Hence cometh...the Dream Interpreters - 10/31/2007 1:15:16 AM
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What I'm saying thought that giving what we have in the Bible about dreams that need to be interpeted they have major implications for basicaly the whole world.
That doesn't need to happen now that we have the complet Word of God in the Bible. Everything God wants us to know is in the Bible, not in our dreams. Dream interpretion is just too subjective, ex. that dream I had about the breaks failing in my car is that me feeling that life is out of cotrol or warning not to drive my car, or do I just need to get my breaks checked or should I just plow though whatever obsticals may be in my way etc.
I'm sorry but if someone is claiming that they are a "Christian Dream Intepreter" that is implying that they have this gift for interpting dreams. Again no such gift is mentioned anywhere in the Bible.
The Bible has to be our guide not some dream that I had a couple nights ago.
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RE: Hence cometh...the Dream Interpreters - 10/31/2007 1:18:13 AM
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So I would say based on the dreams we do have interpreted in the Bible, that if God is going to give someone a dream, its going to have meaning that effects a huge number of people around them if not the whole world, not a personal word to them that they need interpreted by a third party.
I believe God shows us differently in Genesis 40, where the baker and the cupbearer of the king each had a personal dream that only affected them and they needed Joseph to interpret it because they did not understand them. So again, with this one example, God is teaching us that sometimes dreams are very personal and we do sometimes need someone else to interpret for us. At least that's what I understand with these.
But why does Joseph get called before Pharoh to interpted his dream. Because the Butler saw how accurae Joseph was, so they did affect basically the whole world. It was a stepping stone so to speak to get Joseph before Pharoh.
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RE: Hence cometh...the Dream Interpreters - 10/31/2007 1:21:14 AM
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But why does Joseph get called before Pharoh to interpted his dream. Because the Butler saw how accurae Joseph was, so they did affect basically the whole world. It was a stepping stone so to speak to get Joseph before Pharoh.
Because the effect of this personal dream interpreting by Joseph caused him to be recognized I don't think negates the fact that the two men had personal dreams that they could not interpret for themselves and thus needed someone who walks with God to give them the answer. Yes, God definately uses this to get Joseph out of prison.
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RE: Hence cometh...the Dream Interpreters - 10/31/2007 1:26:46 AM
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Everything God wants us to know is in the Bible, not in our dreams.
I agree that everything God wants us to know is NOT in dreams. But the Holy Spirit often teaches people things apart from scripture - through the word of someone else, an event, a dream, a song on the radio. There's all kinds of ways that God teaches us the things He wants us to know. At least in my own experience I've found this to be true.
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Dream interpretion is just too subjective, ex. that dream I had about the breaks failing in my car is that me feeling that life is out of cotrol or warning not to drive my car, or do I just need to get my breaks checked or should I just plow though whatever obsticals may be in my way etc.
Yes, it definately takes the discernment of the Holy Spirit to know if a dream is from God or just from our souls. God-dreams aren't near as common as regular dreams. But I've found them to be so completely different from regular dreams that I've never had a problem recognizing them from the first time that I ever had one. There have been many times when I've had to seek God on their meaning and wait on Him for the interpretation, and times where I've had outside help to interpret them. There is much to be gained from many counselors.
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RE: Hence cometh...the Dream Interpreters - 10/31/2007 5:33:51 AM
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My opinion:
Some dreams have messages, most do not. Most dreams are just your mind playing games as it interprets and stores information.
The dreams with meanings stand out and have personal meaning. Few interpreters have the skill set needed to interpret the dreams.
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RE: Hence cometh...the Dream Interpreters - 10/31/2007 8:35:08 AM
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Has anyone here come across Christian dream interpreters?
Yes. I knew a very accurate one, she studied psychology and was influenced by Carl Jung mostly though she also had obvious clarity from God.
The kingdom of heaven is within, so each dream is a message from the subconscious and is valuable to guide to our destiny, why limit God to just our conscious selves, I know when God claimed me and washed me He washed all of me, not only my conscious self.
The language of dreams is complex though, and unless one understands this complex, yet simple language it can be misleading and even demonic.
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RE: Hence cometh...the Dream Interpreters - 10/31/2007 9:25:17 AM
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Has anyone here come across Christian dream interpreters?
and was influenced by Carl Jung
That's not a good thing.
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RE: Hence cometh...the Dream Interpreters - 10/31/2007 10:40:01 AM
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sue244
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All this whole discussion seems to be doing is trying to justify using pyschology to interpret dreams.
I don't need a man made system for God to talk to me. I have the Bible and that is all that is needed.
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RE: Hence cometh...the Dream Interpreters - 10/31/2007 10:42:16 AM
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miasma
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All this whole discussion seems to be doing is trying to justify using pyschology to interpret dreams.
I don't think psych is used to interpret dreams, I think they are a psychological and emotional occurence. No messages from God, or hidden subtexts. A hodgepodge of random input we might not have noticed during the day, and anxieties, fears, hopes, etc., played out.
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RE: Hence cometh...the Dream Interpreters - 10/31/2007 12:51:47 PM
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lw9
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Hi SD456:
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Do you believe that it's unbiblical to interpret dreams and that scripture speaks against it?
Does the Bible speak for a 'ministry' or spiritual 'gift' of dream interpretation? No. Dream interpretation was a very rare occurance for a very specific purpose in the OT, and there is absolutely no mention of it or instructions for it in the NT. Sue244 has already outlined this well enough. There are only 5 dreams from God that I could find mentioned in the NT [4 to Joseph, 1 to the Magi], and all were perfectly understood by the person receiving the dream - no interpreter necessary:
Mt 1:20 But when he had considered this, behold, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream, saying, "Joseph, son of David, do not be afraid to take Mary as your wife; for the Child who has been conceived in her is of the Holy Spirit.
Mt 2:12 And having been warned by God in a dream not to return to Herod, the magi left for their own country by another way.
Mt 2:13 Now when they had gone, behold, an angel of the Lord appeared to Joseph in a dream and said, "Get up! Take the Child and His mother and flee to Egypt, and remain there until I tell you; for Herod is going to search for the Child to destroy Him."
Mt 2:19 But when Herod died, behold, an angel of the Lord appeared in a dream to Joseph in Egypt, and said,
Mt 2:22 But when he heard that Archelaus was reigning over Judea in place of his father Herod, he was afraid to go there. Then after being warned by God in a dream, he left for the regions of Galilee...
Anyone claiming dream interpretation as a 'ministry' or as a spiritual 'gift' is operating outside the constraints of the Bible. By stepping outside that constraint, suddenly everything and anything under the sun becomes a spiritual 'gift'.
Does the Bible speak against dream interpretation? The way it's being used and abused today - YES. It can be a form of occult [hidden] divination [the method or system used to gain access to what's hidden]. The premise is that God is giving you messages in your dreams but you can't understand what He's saying. That's the hidden part. The interpreter claims to be able to unlock that information through a system where colors, numbers, objects, symbols, and events have been assigned special meanings, and that's the divination part. Very dangerous stuff.
Jer 27:9 So do not listen to your prophets, your diviners, your interpreters of dreams, your mediums or your sorcerers who tell you, ‘You will not serve the king of Babylon.’ 10 They prophesy lies to you that will only serve to remove you far from your lands; I will banish you and you will perish.
< Message edited by lw9 -- 10/31/2007 12:58:14 PM >
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