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Writing Lines - 10/2/2008 12:33:52 PM   
Mrs.X


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Status: offline 		I saw another poster uses this during time-outs. I remember doing them in grade school, and we hated it. It sure made the class quiet down after that. What do you all think of writing lines? Do you use this method?

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RE: Writing Lines - 10/2/2008 12:55:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		It was a standard punishment at my primary school (age 7-10) and I must admit I rather enjoyed it. I could write quickly, and I varied it by, say, putting all the "I"s down the left hand side first, then all the second words one after another, etc. I got it done a lot quicker than those writing whole sentences at a time.

Maybe I'm just weird. lol

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RE: Writing Lines - 10/2/2008 1:00:37 PM   
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Status: online 		We all know you're weird Manda, you don't have to tell us by now.

But I did the same thing when I wrote my lines.

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RE: Writing Lines - 10/2/2008 1:03:18 PM   
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Status: online 		I remember writing lines in elementary school. I don't remember how effective it was.

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RE: Writing Lines - 10/2/2008 1:06:25 PM   
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Status: offline 		If my 4th grade teacher caught us writing like Ruth and Manda said, we'd get in trouble for that and have to start over.

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RE: Writing Lines - 10/2/2008 1:48:52 PM   
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Status: offline 		My fourth grade teacher never made us write lines. Instead she would make us copy dictionary pages! UGH! For me that was worse then lines could have EVER been. This particular teacher was pretty harsh and had a variety of mean punishments!

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RE: Writing Lines - 10/2/2008 1:51:16 PM   
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Status: online 		Yeah, I had a teacher that made us do that, too. Every period, comma, the exact pronunciation characters. It was a pain.

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RE: Writing Lines - 10/2/2008 1:58:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		Oh and as for having my kids do this as a punishment. No. Losing privileges is a far better form of discipline in MY home. I've found my kids' currency and use it BIG time!

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RE: Writing Lines - 10/2/2008 2:06:33 PM   
Rayoh


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Status: offline 		I some what remember doing it a few times in school. I never thought of doing it in my form of discipline. I don't see anything wrong with it though. If a person uses it, or thinks it might be something that could work in their family, go for it.
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RE: Writing Lines - 10/2/2008 2:44:06 PM   
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Status: offline 		Writing lines or copying the dictionary in school sounds a lot like having to run laps or do push-ups in football.

Doing drills improves skills. So as far as "punishment" goes, it's actually sort of a blessing. Practicing your handwriting is not a bad thing; running laps is not a bad thing.

However I must confess, I don't use either as punishments in my home. Grounding from electronic devices is the quickest way to ensure compliance with unpopular commands around here.


But if I were an English teacher, I might use copy drills. They certainly can't ground anyone!

And if I were a football coach, I would definitely make kids run laps.

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RE: Writing Lines - 10/2/2008 3:58:26 PM   
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Status: offline 		All three of my children have learning disabilities that affect their fine motor skills. Punishing them with any form of writing would be physically painful and the school district would be in major trouble.

At home, no way, I'm trying to teach my children not torture them.

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RE: Writing Lines - 10/2/2008 4:19:13 PM   
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Status: offline 		I usually do this with my kids but usually when the issue is school related. Like they did not do homework or disobeyed the teacher, etc. I have done it when they broke specific rules ie "I will pick up my plate from the table." etc.

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RE: Writing Lines - 10/2/2008 4:27:09 PM   
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Status: online 		I don't use this method. It was used when I was a student to the point of being abusive (especially since my hands have a tremor that makes writing difficult). It left me with serious writing issues to the point that I would bulk if asked to even write my signature for years afterward. I do have my kids write papers for me to help with correction. not so much to feel like a punishment but to help them think things through better and thus calm down and straighten up. It also allows them to to get out how they are feeling or their side and know that they are listened to and considered. Most of the time, by the time that they are done they realize that we are in the right and are willing to submit.

I will have them write a paper on why they think that they should be allowed to do something (or shouldn't be required to do something).

I have had them write a paper on relationship issues, or interpreting the love chapter.

I have them write papers on why they are allowed or not allowed to do something.

That is the closest that we do to just writing out lines or verses. We don't do it an awful lot as we are usually able to just talk stuff out.

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RE: Writing Lines - 10/2/2008 5:43:24 PM   
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Status: offline 		I guess the closest thing I get to writing lines is making my 9 year old rewrite certain pieces of homework to make it readable!

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RE: Writing Lines - 10/2/2008 6:13:51 PM   
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Status: offline 		At school, we had to write dictionary pages. It must have been effective, because I can recall only doing it once.

At home, my mom had us write lines. I'll never forget the first time she had me do it. She asked which is easier for me, printing or cursive. When I answered "cursive," she then instructed me to print. That clever reverse psychology--you think I would have caught on before I had given my answer.

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RE: Writing Lines - 10/3/2008 12:07:46 AM   
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Status: offline 		I used to write lines in middle school whenever I got detention and
would do the same thing as Ruth and Manda.I found the writing went
quicker if I wrote all the I,s first.

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RE: Writing Lines - 10/3/2008 5:32:59 AM   
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Status: offline 		I have used it on coccasions with my eldest (5) as a step on from 'time out'. Pretty much time out in our household is more about having time to reflect and correct an attitude rather than punishment. If that doesn't work then lines might be in order along the theme of whatever it is I am trying to teach him eg, 7 lines of 'We treat other peoples toys with respect' - he easily has the ability to do this in about 15 minutes but the first time he had 'lines' it took him 3 hours and I told him no play until they were done (I did let him down for dinner). It was quite a battle of wills - he thought that if he moaned and complained enough then I would give in, he said he was tired "OK lie down for 20 minutes and then you can start when you've had a rest". So the whole thing dragged painfully on but by the end of the afternoon he realised I meant business and he now realises the sooner he does them the better. I should add that since I started giving them to him he has only needed them about 4 times - usually just the threat is enough to sort him out .

The argument against lines is that it can make the child feel any kind of writing work is punishment - I suppose this could happen if the punishment was used on a constant basis - for me it is just one of a variety of disciplinary methods I use . Also, it is important to set the right number of lines according to ability (or as mentioned earlier, if it would physically hurt the child or they already associate writing negatively it would be the wrong punishment for that child).

I personally would not use the writing out of scripture at these times as I think that begins to primarily associate God with punishment which is not healthy for a child IMO.

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RE: Writing Lines - 10/3/2008 7:18:41 AM   
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Status: offline 		I had to write lines occasionally in school, but the teachers were always smart enough to give us a sentence that wouldn't fit on one line, so the kids who wrote straight down the page, one word at a time, always ran out of room and had to start over when they got to the end of the line and realized they only had half the sentence

When I worked in after-school day care, we made the kids write lines if they got in trouble, but the rule was changed because we weren't allowed to give any "physical" punishment and writing lines is apparently a physical punishment because it makes your hand hurt After that, discipline was much harder to maintain.

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RE: Writing Lines - 10/3/2008 11:03:10 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Lynn_J

At school, we had to write dictionary pages. It must have been effective, because I can recall only doing it once.

At home, my mom had us write lines. I'll never forget the first time she had me do it. She asked which is easier for me, printing or cursive. When I answered "cursive," she then instructed me to print. That clever reverse psychology--you think I would have caught on before I had given my answer.

LOL, I remember having to write dictionary pages in middle school.

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RE: Writing Lines and essays - 10/11/2008 12:15:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		Wanted to add to the topic since there was another thread that got closed since it was similar to this one.

What do you all think of writing essays as punishment?

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RE: Writing Lines and essays - 10/11/2008 6:57:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		we just had our 9yo write a scripture out 8 times....it was a long one, and we cut the number down to 8 because the point was for him to learn the scripture and the lesson from that scripture....he had it by #8, so we didn't make him do all ten of them.

I don't think we will ever do "lines"...but scriptures we will continue to do if it works (which it seems to with one so far)

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RE: Writing Lines and essays - 10/12/2008 5:20:02 PM   
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Status: offline 		Sometimes in the school I taught at the punishment was to just sit still and be quiet
You won't believe how many older kids begged to write line!

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RE: Writing Lines and essays - 10/15/2008 6:15:17 PM   
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Status: offline 		Our teenage daughter has had essays and lines at school and ocasionally at home. We only ground for a weekend so my wife wanted to ensure our daughter had to work hard rather than just recharge her batteries. Its been pretty effective, our daughter has found both essays and lines to be hard work.
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RE: Writing Lines and essays - 10/15/2008 7:26:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		I know a family that hands out essays as punishment.

The kids are learning three things very well:

Composition skills,
Grammar/punctuation skills,
and
Tthe importance of writing to your audience (telling mom what she wants to hear!).

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RE: Writing Lines and essays - 10/15/2008 9:19:21 PM   
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Status: online 		Fortunately, I never had my dad as a teacher, but, as with many things in life, he would go just a bit further than everybody else. Not only did he make his students write lines, but they would have to use a particular pencil that was sharpened at both ends. When one end got dull, they had to use the other end. I don't know if they were allowed to sharpen it, though it was sharpened between punishments. After a while, the thing was little more than a nub, but you still had to use it.

Also, he would make the kids kneel on the ground and lean forward with their forehead resting on the wall, not allowed to hold themselves up with their arms.

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