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RE: The Presidential Poll Thread - 9/17/2008 6:55:35 PM
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Rasmussen is reporting McCain still has a small lead:
McCain: 48%
Obama: 47%
Real Clear Politics shows the electoral votes favor McCain as well:
Obama/Biden 207
157 Solid 50 Leaning
McCain/Palin 227
157 Solid 70 Leaning
Toss Up 104
And McCain is picking up ground in several key states, among which is Pennsylvania where Obama is only up by 1.6% If McCain can win Pennsylvania it's all over.
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RE: The Presidential Poll Thread - 9/18/2008 9:39:41 AM
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ORIGINAL: inthysite
Rasmussen is reporting McCain still has a small lead:
McCain: 48%
Obama: 47%
Real Clear Politics shows the electoral votes favor McCain as well:
Obama/Biden 207
157 Solid 50 Leaning
McCain/Palin 227
157 Solid 70 Leaning
Toss Up 104
And McCain is picking up ground in several key states, among which is Pennsylvania where Obama is only up by 1.6% If McCain can win Pennsylvania it's all over.
Also from Rassmussen:
The Rasmussen Reports Balance of Power Calculator shows McCain leading in states with 200 Electoral College votes while Obama has the edge in states with 193 votes. When “leaners” are included, shows Obama leading 259-247
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RE: The Presidential Poll Thread - 9/18/2008 1:01:49 PM
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Latest Poll Results By State
Barack Obama John McCain
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California 51.0 37.0
Texas 36.0 57.0
New York 55.0 42.0
Florida 44.0 49.0
Illinois 51.0 45.0
Pennsylvania 47.0 47.0
Ohio 45.0 48.0
Michigan 51.0 46.0
Georgia 38.0 56.0
New Jersey 49.0 41.0
North Carolina 41.0 52.0
Virginia 48.0 48.0
Massachusetts 51.0 36.0
Indiana 43.0 45.0
Missouri 45.0 50.0
Tennessee 32.0 56.0
Washington 49.0 47.0
Arizona 39.0 56.0
Maryland 52.0 38.0
Minnesota 49.0 47.0
Wisconsin 46.0 43.0
Alabama 36.0 51.0
Colorado 46.0 48.0
Louisiana 43.0 50.0
Kentucky 37.0 57.0
South Carolina 40.0 53.0
Connecticut 51.0 36.0
Iowa 49.0 46.0
Oklahoma 32.0 65.0
Oregon 47.0 37.0
Arkansas 37.0 47.0
Kansas 31.0 63.0
Mississippi 39.0 55.0
Nebraska 32.0 50.0
New Mexico 51.0 44.0
Nevada 46.0 49.0
Utah 29.0 65.0
West Virginia 45.0 49.0
Hawaii 63.0 32.0
Idaho 29.0 68.0
Maine 52.0 38.0
New Hampshire 51.0 45.0
Rhode Island 59.0 33.0
Alaska 36.0 60.0
Delaware 51.0 40.0
South Dakota 40.0 44.0
Montana 42.0 53.0
North Dakota 41.0 55.0
Vermont 63.0 29.0
Wyoming 39.0 58.0
District of Columbia 82.0 13.0
I wish McCain would win California this time - even though i know its mostly a Democratic state.
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RE: The Presidential Poll Thread - 9/18/2008 1:08:53 PM
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What happened to ur post???
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RE: The Presidential Poll Thread - 9/18/2008 5:20:55 PM
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AP reports that the poll numbers seem to be swinging back on Obama's favor, in light of recent events with the economy.
Which blows my mind because Obama's "if it moves, tax it" strategy would spell certain disaster for our nation....
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RE: The Presidential Poll Thread - 9/18/2008 5:39:50 PM
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ORIGINAL: tafkam
AP reports that the poll numbers seem to be swinging back on Obama's favor, in light of recent events with the economy.
Which blows my mind because Obama's "if it moves, tax it" strategy would spell certain disaster for our nation....
The "Palin effect" is wearing off as well. The novelty, you know.
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RE: The Presidential Poll Thread - 9/18/2008 7:53:58 PM
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Which blows my mind because Obama's "if it moves, tax it" strategy would spell certain disaster for our nation....
I agree.. the problem that McCain and the republicans will have is really distancing themselves from Bush. I think the media has injected fear into the society at this point. If in the next 47 days the media can continue to paint the doom and gloom of the economy Obama can say whatever he wants and people will go with him because they (as unfortunate as it is) see him as a non Republican. People tend to only see what's in front of them and base their judgment calls off of snapshots rather than the whole facts. People will make irrational choices because the media has pumped them full of fear and in the end it will play to Obama's advantage. sigh
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RE: The Presidential Poll Thread - 9/18/2008 8:02:52 PM
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AP reports that the poll numbers seem to be swinging back on Obama's favor, in light of recent events with the economy.
You mean like the 410 point rise in the Dow today?
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RE: The Presidential Poll Thread - 9/18/2008 8:14:31 PM
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I was just quoting the AP article...
Has anyone watched Olberman or Maddow or any of the other left wing nuts on MSNBC? They are trotting out all these polls (from sources I've never heard of) that have McCain/Palin polling far lower than all the major polls.
Anything to try and make your dream a reality, I guess...
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RE: The Presidential Poll Thread - 9/18/2008 9:32:44 PM
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I wish McCain would win California this time - even though i know its mostly a Democratic state.
LOL! I guess wishing is always with in your rights. But I doubt that will ever happen, Too many Liberal Hollywood types in Cali that support OBAMA, interesting since the actors which "know nothing about Government or morals" are included in the 5% that Obama wants to tax. And lets not be fooled by McCain when he says nobody's taxes will be raised. I was a rather young man in 1988 however I remember those famous last words by a Bush I actually like.." Read my Lips, no NEW Taxes!" Which if you remember, those words came back to haunt him in '92.
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RE: The Presidential Poll Thread - 9/18/2008 10:03:05 PM
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Bush 41 was a fiscally responsible technocrat. He deserved better than he got.
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RE: The Presidential Poll Thread - 9/18/2008 10:33:19 PM
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Bush 41 was a fiscally responsible technocrat. He deserved better than he got.
I agree with that to an extent, at least he had a clue on how to run a country without running into the ground!
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RE: The Presidential Poll Thread - 9/18/2008 10:37:38 PM
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Bush 41 was a fiscally responsible technocrat. He deserved better than he got. Very much agree. Too bad his son doesn't have his father's abilities.
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RE: The Presidential Poll Thread - 9/18/2008 11:05:36 PM
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Cali may be a democrat state, but there are a LOT of RED counties here. There are more red counties than blue counties ... unfortunately the blue counties are LA, Orange, San Diego, SF, Alameda, and Santa Clara. Cali does have a republican governor, after all.
(Weird: Watching the news and heard the quote almost exactly on here of McCain putting distance between him and Bush...)
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RE: The Presidential Poll Thread - 9/19/2008 10:45:14 AM
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Bush 41 was a fiscally responsible technocrat. He deserved better than he got.
I agree with that to an extent, at least he had a clue on how to run a country without running into the ground!
It's too bad that we could not appreciate his skills. He didn't have the charisma factor, though. So many of us thought he was a weeney on Iraq, but it turned out he was wise enough to know the difference between quicksand and a piece of cake.
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RE: The Presidential Poll Thread - 9/20/2008 3:24:48 PM
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I was looking for this thread to include the map that I just found (wow never knew the reality of colors looks quite like that !)...to have an ideia about whats going in inside the states and the tendencies of voting paterns among different communities and ethnicities etc. It is easy to my mind to work with maps and graphics. Hope will find out a Latino Populations map soon and to see the battlegrounds states both candidates are trying to reach also.
Black & White Populations
I forgot the colors of which party is red and who is the blue one. I have short memory spam sometimes..
As the map has no states names written on it I kind of not remembering some states names particularly the top ones, as myself never had visited a "white state" cant imagine how it looks like to see just white people around. Is that really true the map colors like that?
Thessa OP can I include maps in your poll thread?
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RE: The Presidential Poll Thread - 9/20/2008 4:18:27 PM
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ORIGINAL: tafkam
AP reports that the poll numbers seem to be swinging back on Obama's favor, in light of recent events with the economy.
Which blows my mind because Obama's "if it moves, tax it" strategy would spell certain disaster for our nation....
>>"if it moves, tax it"<<
LOL! That's funny.
As Rush cited Obama himself though, Obama said he wouldn't raise taxes until the economy was "stable". Which begs the question: "If Obama DOESN'T feel tax increases would hurt or thinks they would HELP the economy, then why WAIT until the economy was 'stable' to implement them?!?"
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RE: The Presidential Poll Thread - 9/20/2008 4:27:08 PM
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Stimpy
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I wish McCain would win California this time - even though i know its mostly a Democratic state.
Well take heart, if the AOL "Straw Poll" is correct, McCain will win EVERY state INCLUDING California. Somehow I don't see that happening though. :)
As I think it was John Ziegler (a local LA area talk show host) once put it, "Most of the map of California is red, it's just that the blue parts are so DARK BLUE...".
If Obama somehow DOES lose California, this election would end up a McCain landslide.
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RE: The Presidential Poll Thread - 9/20/2008 4:45:54 PM
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Of course...we all know how accurate these types of polls are, and they have no real bearing on the real election numbers...but it could be interesting none-the-less just to check once in awaile.
Polls are important as their govern campaign strategy and can influence undecided voters. For example if a candidate drops sharply it may make some undecideds wonder what's wrong with them. Some people like to follow the herd and so will pick the candidate that is generally leading the polls, even if they aren't leading on election day (because they might not check every day).
So poll tracking is important, good thread.
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RE: The Presidential Poll Thread - 9/20/2008 4:51:55 PM
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Of course...we all know how accurate these types of polls are, and they have no real bearing on the real election numbers...but it could be interesting none-the-less just to check once in awaile.
Polls are important as their govern campaign strategy and can influence undecided voters. For example if a candidate drops sharply it may make some undecideds wonder what's wrong with them. Some people like to follow the herd and so will pick the candidate that is generally leading the polls, even if they aren't leading on election day (because they might not check every day).
So poll tracking is important, good thread.
And to be quite honest, people who vote like that I wish wouldn't vote at all. I'd almost rather have someone vote contrary to me but do so with some CONVICTION than for someone to vote WITH me just because the "winds were blowing favorably that day". Of course, with so much at stake, I'll take all the run support I can get. ;>
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RE: The Presidential Poll Thread - 10/1/2008 10:57:09 PM
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John McCain's home state - Arizona - a battle ground state? McCain only leads by 7 points...
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According to the poll, conducted by the Walter Cronkite School of Journalism at Arizona State University and KAET Eight, Sen. John McCain (R-Phoenix) now leads Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) by 45 percent to 38 percent. With just over 1 percent going to third party candidates, over 16 percent of the electorate remains undecided.
The last Cronkite-Eight poll, released Aug. 19, had McCain leading by 10 points over Obama, 40 to 30.
http://www.politickeraz.com/evanbrown/2382/az-poll-mccain-ahead-single-digits-prop-202-favored-most
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RE: The Presidential Poll Thread - 10/1/2008 11:01:41 PM
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...and from RealClearPolitics:
Colorado 50.0 45.0 Obama +5.0
Ohio 48.0 46.0 Obama +2.0
Florida 48.6 45.6 Obama +3.0
Pennsylvania 49.6 42.0 Obama +7.6
Missouri 46.8 48.5 McCain +1.7
Virginia 48.8 46.3 Obama +2.5
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/
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RE: The Presidential Poll Thread - 10/2/2008 10:55:36 AM
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...and from RealClearPolitics:
Colorado 50.0 45.0 Obama +5.0
Ohio 48.0 46.0 Obama +2.0
Florida 48.6 45.6 Obama +3.0
Pennsylvania 49.6 42.0 Obama +7.6
Missouri 46.8 48.5 McCain +1.7
Virginia 48.8 46.3 Obama +2.5
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/
IMO, the "undecideds" will go heavily toward McMaverick. Otherwise, he would have no chance in Electoral math. However, there is a certain Nixon quality about the man in that every time you think he's done for he pulls out an improbable come-back. We'll see if he has one last "Hail Mary" to throw.
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