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Songs with meaning you didn't at first understand. - 9/27/2008 9:34:39 AM
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rgsoundguy
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Are there any songs out there that at first you just didn't get, and then either you looked deeper at it or somebody explained it to you? Please share your thought here about it. Enlighten the rest of us.
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RE: Songs with meaning you didn't at first understand. - 9/27/2008 9:43:32 AM
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rgsoundguy
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I will begin. The song is "The Trees" by Rush. If you are unfamiliar with it. The song is about the trees in the forest fighting over sunlight. The oaks are so tall and they grab all the sunlight before the smaller maples can get some. The last line of the song is "The trees were all kept equal by hatchet, ax and saw" Judging by that line I always thought is was a united we stand divided we fall type of song. And that is part of it, but apparently if goes much deeper. Neil Peart is the drummer for the band and he also writes the lyrics. Apparently he describes himself as a left leaning libertarian (not sure what the left leaning part means). But this song is actually a statement against socialism. After the fighting begins in the song, there are lines such as "The maples formed a union and demanded equal rights." So the last line of the song that I mentioned earlier, was socialism coming in and making everybody equal, only instead of the socialist Utopian dream of everybody being successful and well off, everybody was cut down. Pretty powerful song, eh? Sorry, Rush is a Canadian band.
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RE: Songs with meaning you didn't at first understand. - 9/27/2008 10:53:49 AM
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MusicianDad
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I will begin. The song is "The Trees" by Rush.
Yeah, Neil Peart is a great lyricist. There are tons of songs that I listened to as a little kid and then later found out the lyrics were about sex or drugs or pro-socialism or some other kind of malrky. A lot of Rock lyrics in the 70's were very ambiguous, as well.
So my first one is Love Gun by KISS. I was in 5th or 6th grade when I first heard it, so you can excuse my ignorance on the obvious meaning of the song and that fact that it went straight over my head. I still like Ace Frehley's super simplistic guitar solo. To my 10 year old mind, it was just cool.
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RE: Songs with meaning you didn't at first understand. - 9/27/2008 5:29:32 PM
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A line from Leader of the Band comes to mind as the singer says his father "earned his love through discipline, a thundering velvet hand." It took me a while to connect those two adjectives.
P.S. Finally remembered his name, Dan Fogelberg
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RE: Songs with meaning you didn't at first understand. - 9/28/2008 3:36:10 AM
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"Breaking the Habit" by Linkin Park off "Meteora"were lyrics that only now have begun to have a personal meaning in my life.
Off topic here are some quotes from the Libertarian Party platform that highlight some of their "left-leaning" tendencies.
"1.2 Personal Privacy
We support the protections provided by the Fourth Amendment to be secure in our persons, homes, and property. Only actions that infringe on the rights of others can properly be termed crimes. We favor the repeal of all laws creating "crimes" without victims, such as the use of drugs for medicinal or recreational purposes.
1.3 Personal Relationships
Sexual orientation, preference, gender, or gender identity should have no impact on the rights of individuals by government, such as in current marriage, child custody, adoption, immigration or military service laws. Consenting adults should be free to choose their own sexual practices and personal relationships. Government does not have the authority to define, license or restrict personal relationships.
1.4 Abortion
Recognizing that abortion is a sensitive issue and that people can hold good-faith views on all sides, we believe that government should be kept out of the matter, leaving the question to each person for their conscientious consideration." Platform of Libertarian Party
Recreational drug use, homosexual marriage, and a pro-abortion stance puts them "on the left" end of the political spectrum.
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RE: Songs with meaning you didn't at first understand. - 9/28/2008 5:08:38 AM
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A few songs come to mind here:
1) Brick-Ben Folds Five (a song about abortion)
2) A Horse With No Name-America (can be used as an allegory to Christianity.)
3) The Futures So Bright, I Gotta Wear Shades-Timbuk 3. (From the get go, you think that they are looking forward to the future, when in reality it is about nuclear war instead.)
And one song that I will not mention at all.
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RE: Songs with meaning you didn't at first understand. - 9/28/2008 8:57:40 AM
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rgsoundguy
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ORIGINAL: mapachito13
"Breaking the Habit" by Linkin Park off "Meteora"were lyrics that only now have begun to have a personal meaning in my life.
Off topic here are some quotes from the Libertarian Party platform that highlight some of their "left-leaning" tendencies.
"1.2 Personal Privacy
We support the protections provided by the Fourth Amendment to be secure in our persons, homes, and property. Only actions that infringe on the rights of others can properly be termed crimes. We favor the repeal of all laws creating "crimes" without victims, such as the use of drugs for medicinal or recreational purposes.
1.3 Personal Relationships
Sexual orientation, preference, gender, or gender identity should have no impact on the rights of individuals by government, such as in current marriage, child custody, adoption, immigration or military service laws. Consenting adults should be free to choose their own sexual practices and personal relationships. Government does not have the authority to define, license or restrict personal relationships.
1.4 Abortion
Recognizing that abortion is a sensitive issue and that people can hold good-faith views on all sides, we believe that government should be kept out of the matter, leaving the question to each person for their conscientious consideration." Platform of Libertarian Party
Recreational drug use, homosexual marriage, and a pro-abortion stance puts them "on the left" end of the political spectrum.
Breaking the habit's a great song. Very powerful for me as well. I will discuss the Libertarian points if you open a thread in the Current Events forum. It's a too off topic for this forum.
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RE: Songs with meaning you didn't at first understand. - 9/29/2008 1:25:44 AM
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Hope this isn't really off-topic, but I have a story about a song that I thought had a "deeper meaning" but didn't.
In 1969, I was in 9th grade. I had no younger siblings, so I wasn't aware of what little kids were watching on TV. I had heard of a show called "Sesame Street" but knew very little about it. At that time, it was a brand new show. One of the characters, Ernie, sang his "Rubber Ducky" song, and it also got some play on the local rock and roll radio station. All of the teenagers I knew were singing along to it whenever it came on, so I started singing along also, not wanting to be thot of as "uncool". I didn't know why this guy was singing about his rubber ducky. I didn't know that the song was from the show "Sesame Street". I thot it had to have some "deeper meaning"; it had to be about drugs or something. "Rubber Ducky" must be a code word for some drug or something like that, I thot. I didn't dare ask anyone, b/c I didn't want to appear as if I were not "in the know" about the "Rubber Ducky". Several years later, I learned the truth, that the Rubber Ducky was just a Rubber Ducky, that the song was from a kids' show, and meant exactly what it sounded like it meant, no deeper meaning. There were never any rumors about Rubber Ducky meaning something else, I just thot it had to mean something else. Why else would they put a kids' song on a rock station like that?
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RE: Songs with meaning you didn't at first understand. - 10/4/2008 4:03:29 PM
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humbleinspirit
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I think because it was released on a major label and it did have an appeal to kids.
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