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Romans - 9/25/2008 3:23:12 PM
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sledmt
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I was looking at Romans 15:18-19. I was wondering what other people thought of these verses and how they would interpet these verses?
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RE: Romans - 9/25/2008 3:34:20 PM
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Lapidoth
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Romans 15:18-19 [NLT]
18. I dare not boast of anything else. I have brought the Gentiles
to God by my message and by the way I lived before them.
19. I have won them over by the miracles done through me as
signs from God --- all by the power of God's Spirit. In this way,
I have fully presented the Good News of Christ all the way from
Jerusalem clear over into Illyricum.
Paul was the apostle to take the news of the Resurrection to the Gentiles.
Peter was the apostle to take the news of the Resurrection to the Jews.
Paul was obedient to his calling.
I don't know of any interpretation than what it says.
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RE: Romans - 9/25/2008 4:11:37 PM
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LCannon
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Roman 15:18,19-"Paul is saying something very important in this passage. If we are to understand Paul, and especially whether he or Peter founded the church at Rome, we must pay close attention to what he says here. Paul is saying, "I will not take credit for the work of God that is being done by others—especially among the Gentiles." Of course he couldn't take credit for what was accomplished on the Day of Pentecost, which was the beginning of the ministry that resulted in the gospel going to the Gentiles. He couldn't take credit for the gospel going to the first Gentiles. It was Simon Peter who took the gospel to the home of Cornelius. Paul will speak only of those things which Christ wrought by him. He had a peculiar ministry as the apostle to the Gentiles.
"Through mighty signs and wonders,"(vs. 19) which were the credentials of the apostles and the ministers in the early church. These were given to establish the church on the right foundation before a word of the New Testament had been written. Paul, speaking to the Ephesian believers, says that they "… are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone" (Eph_2:20). He does not intend to say that the apostles are the foundation. There is no foundation but Christ: "For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ" (1Cor3:11). But the apostles are the ones who put down the foundation of Jesus Christ. That is what Paul is saying here.
Paul says that the gospel of Christ had come through him "unto Illyricum." Illyricum was a province of the Roman Empire next to Italy. It extended to the Adriatic Sea and the Danube River. Paul, you see, had preached by this time from Jerusalem to the province next to Rome. He had not quite reached Rome. By the way, we have no record of Paul's journey in this area. Undoubtedly he went many places that are not detailed for us. There are those who believe that Paul went to Spain. I believe this epistle reveals that he did go to Spain, and I think he also went to Great Britain because he covered the Roman Empire, as we shall see."-JV McGee(Thru the Bible)
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RE: Romans - 10/2/2008 9:25:53 AM
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DaveW
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Verse 19 says he PROVED the veracity of what he taught by God performing miracles thru him. This is in keeping with what he wrote to those in Corinth:
1Co 2:1 And when I came to you, brethren, I did not come with superiority of speech or of wisdom, proclaiming to you the testimony of God.
1Co 2:2 For I determined to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ, and Him crucified.
1Co 2:3 I was with you in weakness and in fear and in much trembling,
1Co 2:4 and my message and my preaching were not in persuasive words of wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power,
1Co 2:5 so that your faith would not rest on the wisdom of men, but on the power of God.
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