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ORIGINAL: Fortydays

NASA SCIENTISTS HELP TO PROVE THE BIBLE
Before the first manned moon mission, I heard scientists on the radio and TV say that "if no evidence of life is found on the moon, science will have to go completely back to the drawing board in our study of the origin of the universe". But, the Lunar probes found no evidence of life on the moon, it was sterile. But, has science "gone back to the drawing board"? I don't think so.

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A discovery on the first moon mission PROVED, instead of disproved, God's Word. Dr. Henry Morris, a scientist who is a Bible believing Christian, said that scientists expected the moon to have about 22 feet of "moon dust" on its surface. Objects in space are said to attract cosmic "dust" at a rate determined by the density of their atmosphere and the "age" of the object. NASA scientists used a formula to determine the thickness of the moons dust, and they used so many "millions of years" for the age of the moon. If you remember, the Lunar Lander had huge flat feet, so it wouldn't sink into the "moon dust", and guess what, the feet went "clunk", in just a few inches of moon dust.
Dr. Morris then used NASA's own formula and worked it BACKWARDS with the moon's correct "inches of dust", and solved for the moon's "AGE". The astonishing answer, using NASA's own formula, was that the moon calculates to be about 7000 years old!
We have no way of knowing the age of the original earth, but we do know the approximate age of the moon from Scripture. The Hebrew in Genesis 1:1 states that the original earth was "created" (Hebrew "barah"), or brought into being from non existent materials. But, in Genesis 1:2, the earth was then "made to become an empty wasteland", we think due to the fall of Satan. Isaiah 45:18 says that the original earth was NOT created a void, or wasteland, but it was brought into being to be inhabited.

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God cannot create junk, everything He CREATES is PERFECT! The original earth, Satan and all the angels, the garden of Eden, and Adam and EVE were ALL created perfect. The sin, sickness, imperfections and disasters we see today are a result of Satans fall and the disobedience of Adam and Eve. God cannot "create" sinful human beings like you and I, He obtained us through human procreation, from fallen Adam and Eve. The rest of Genesis 1:14 through Genesis chapter 2 verses 1 and 2 describe how God took the EXISTING materials of His ORIGINAL creation, and "formed" them into a RESTORED Earth, prepared for Adam and Eve.
God may have created the original earth millions of years ago, we don't know, BUT, God placed the moon in the sky on the FOURTH day of the RESTORATION, in Genesis 1:14-19. Adding up the Scripture genealogy from Adam to Jesus totals about 4000, and if we add our 2000 years from the birth of Christ, we are approximately 6000 years from Adam. NASA's formula, and the actual thickness of the moon dust proves that the Creation account in Genesis is LITERALLY CORRECT! Adam and Eve and our sun and moon were created approximately 6000 years ago!

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ORIGINAL: bluestone

I believe the moon exists. That is where cheese comes from.

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Henry Morris was wrong. Even AIG says so

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Head on over to the science forum to find a whole list of reasons why scientists and many Christians don't believe this is the case.

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ORIGINAL: drmark

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Henry Morris was wrong. Even AIG says so

Come on, Dan, you know better than that! The fact is that Dr Morris used NASA's own preliminary estimates of moon dust acculmulation rates to arrive at an age < 10,000 years old. Obviously, it was the uniformitarian naturalist approach that proved wrong when the Lander found mere inches of dust.

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AiG is rightfully pointing out that incorrect estimates based on faulty assumptions make for poor science!

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No, it was the initial measurement that proved to be wrong, not the uniformitarian assumption.

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ORIGINAL: drmark

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No, it was the initial measurement that proved to be wrong, not the uniformitarian assumption.

Good grief, Dan, nothing was "measured" until Armstrong touched the surface.

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If you wish to defame Dr Morris, that's your problem, er privelege.

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There were plenty of measurements taken before then - by radar systems, by satellites, and by lunar probes.

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Finally, there is the testimony of Dr William Overn. Because he was working at the time for the Univac Division of Sperry Rand on the television sub-system for the Mariner IV spacecraft he sometimes had exchanges with the men at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL) who were working on the Apollo program. Evidently those he spoke to were assigned to the Ranger spacecraft missions which, as we have seen, were designed to find out what the lunar surface really was like; in other words, to investigate among other things whether there was a thin or thick dust layer on the lunar surface. In Bill’s own words:

‘I simply told them that they should expect to find less than 10,000 years’ worth of dust when they got there. This was based on my creationist belief that the moon is young. The situation got so tense it was suggested I bet them a large amount of money about the dust. … However, when the Surveyor spacecraft later landed on the moon and discovered there was virtually no dust, that wasn’t good enough for these people to pay off their bet. They said the first landing might have been a fluke in a low dust area! So we waited until ,.,. astronauts actually landed on the moon.'

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ORIGINAL: drmark

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‘I simply told them that they should expect to find less than 10,000 years’ worth of dust when they got there. This was based on my creationist belief that the moon is young. The situation got so tense it was suggested I bet them a large amount of money about the dust. … However, when the Surveyor spacecraft later landed on the moon and discovered there was virtually no dust, that wasn’t good enough for these people to pay off their bet. They said the first landing might have been a fluke in a low dust area! So we waited until ,.,. astronauts actually landed on the moon.'

Apparently uniformitarian scientists hold onto their religion as long as possible, even in the face of "plenty of measurements"!

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And wouldn't ya know it, they were right. They waited until conclusive data was in, which ultimately showed that the initial estimates for dust influx were wrong and that shallow dust layers are consistent with an old universe.