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Please Answer Seriously - 12/2/2008 3:05:54 PM
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Man-Made-of-Snow
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Do you believe that God created life on other worlds in space?
If you are reading this, please answer and please answer seriously. I need some input. Please feel free to give me your opinion.
Thank you.
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RE: Please Answer Seriously - 12/2/2008 3:44:49 PM
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I chose possibly but heres why.
Its kinda slippery, if we are talking about animal and plant life, yes I do think its possible, furthermore, and I could be wrong, I dont think it makes any difference either way. Now human life I dont believe he did. Think about it, look what the fall of creation did to God and to us. I dont feel God would want to go through it all again with another creation unknown to us. To say other life outside of earth exsists that is just as valauble to God as we are to him, has alot of bizzare implications. First, we have the potential for multiple Christs on other planets. With that comes a whole load of other implications...did Christ die for us here on earth and another civilization(s) as well? or were there multiple Christs? Is the trinity the quadinity?
Maybe this other civilization isnt quite human like? maybe they would look different but share the same spirit as we do? or the same potential with a personal relationship to God. Would they use a different doctrine? Maybe they didnt "eat the fruit" and have ben in perfect standing with God. But does that mean the fall of creation applies only to us on Earth? Many beleive that the fall applies to all creation, including the universe (decay over time).
So overall these things are not (to my knowledge) even remotley covered in scripture leading to two different possibilities..
1. There may be animal and plant life on other planets in the universe (which I think its highly probable) But a lifeform valued by God enough to die for, like humans, no.
2. God specifically left out any sound information or understandings of other human-valued life forms for his own reasons, either way hes got it under control.
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RE: Please Answer Seriously - 12/2/2008 7:32:45 PM
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Man-Made-of-Snow
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Thank you for the input, Jmjphe.
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RE: Please Answer Seriously - 12/2/2008 7:59:51 PM
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Jesus became human. I do not believe He will change into any other life form. If you look at the activity of heaven, it appears very focused on earth.
Though I believe that God can travel to any other planet in the Universe.
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RE: Please Answer Seriously - 12/3/2008 12:10:22 AM
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ORIGINAL: jmjphe
I chose possibly but heres why.
Its kinda slippery, if we are talking about animal and plant life, yes I do think its possible, furthermore, and I could be wrong, I dont think it makes any difference either way. Now human life I dont believe he did. Think about it, look what the fall of creation did to God and to us. I dont feel God would want to go through it all again with another creation unknown to us. To say other life outside of earth exsists that is just as valauble to God as we are to him, has alot of bizzare implications. First, we have the potential for multiple Christs on other planets. With that comes a whole load of other implications...did Christ die for us here on earth and another civilization(s) as well? or were there multiple Christs? Is the trinity the quadinity?
Maybe this other civilization isnt quite human like? maybe they would look different but share the same spirit as we do? or the same potential with a personal relationship to God. Would they use a different doctrine? Maybe they didnt "eat the fruit" and have ben in perfect standing with God. But does that mean the fall of creation applies only to us on Earth? Many beleive that the fall applies to all creation, including the universe (decay over time).
So overall these things are not (to my knowledge) even remotley covered in scripture leading to two different possibilities..
1. There may be animal and plant life on other planets in the universe (which I think its highly probable) But a lifeform valued by God enough to die for, like humans, no.
2. God specifically left out any sound information or understandings of other human-valued life forms for his own reasons, either way hes got it under control.
Great post, I feel exactly what you said.
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RE: Please Answer Seriously - 12/3/2008 4:34:37 PM
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I agree with whisperingwaters. Great post!
A lot of Christians say the Bible doesn't allow for life on other planets, even some moss and mollusks inhabiting some little planet tucked away in a far-off corner of the cosmos, let alone any sentient aliens like Klingons or Wookies. From what I have seen, they've made some astoundingly counterintuitive leaps and extrapolations in how Scripture applies to the nature of biological life and its role in God's plan.
The Bible tends to hold a lot of surprises for us. Jesus seemed to be exactly the opposite of the Messiah in certain messianic traits predicted by the Hebrew Scriptures, but of course it makes perfect sense to us now, people who have the asset of hindsight. I think the subject of aliens may well be on the same footing as this. If Jesus can still be the Messiah and yet run counter to people's expectations (without directly contradicting Scripture, of course), then I think it's very easy for sentient alien life to fit in a Scriptural paradigm without undermining a single doctrine. But we lack context and tend to have a limited imagination, so some people think life on other worlds is impossible.
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RE: Please Answer Seriously - 12/5/2008 4:36:45 PM
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OP-- what purpose would it serve if God did? How would we benefit and How would God get the glory for that work?
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RE: Please Answer Seriously - 12/5/2008 5:06:58 PM
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OP-- what purpose would it serve if God did? How would we benefit and How would God get the glory for that work?
While I don't think there is any positive reason for a Christian to believe life exists elsewhere (or an unbeliever, for that matter) and I am skeptical that life does exist elsewhere, I don't think the fact that we don't know about some aspect of God's creation means it's purposeless or that God wouldn't create it.
Presumably billions of things go on in the universe that we know nothing about - and yet they exist because God is pleased to cause them to exist.
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RE: Please Answer Seriously - 12/7/2008 4:29:43 PM
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OP-- what purpose would it serve if God did? How would we benefit and How would God get the glory for that work?
I suppose that it would would not serve any purpose to us. But there are fish living in the deepest seas that we are just now finding. Some of the sea creatures we may never find. Does that mean that we should stop looking for them? Is it pointless to search for them because there is no significant use for them once we do discover them? I for one, am very curious as to what God made down there. That goes for the other worlds in the deep space as well.
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RE: Please Answer Seriously - 12/11/2008 8:09:56 PM
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If anyone is interested I'd be happy to post some quotes.
Please do! 
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RE: Please Answer Seriously - 12/12/2008 2:15:42 AM
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I answered possibly. Here's why...
*I don't know the whole bible, as of yet* , but within in my knowledge I know the bible only mention three major places. Heaven, Hell, and Earth. The bible doesn't speak of any other planets besides Earth, but yet they exist. The bible tells us that God is the creator of all things. I believe that, so I believe God did create the other planets, but why didn't he feel the need to mention them? Well, my honest opinion is that it isn't important to us as humans. I don't believe we connect to any of those other planets in any kind of way, shape or form.
With that being said, God didn't mention the planets, so he wouldn't mention life on them. So I look at it as, there's a possibility of there being life on other planets. IMO He could have a plan for each individual planet.
Don't forget that, Jesus is God but in human form. Jesus(Human Form) wouldn't have been necessary else where outside of this Earth, because the reason he came wouldn't apply there. (Hope I'm saying that right lol )
IMO Everything God created on Earth has it's purpose. Take trees for example, not only are they decorative, but they give off oxygen which is necessary for us humans. Do you think he created other planets, just to be decorative or .......... ?
For those who answered "Yes! I am sure of it. or/ No! I am sure that God did not create life outside of the earth. " I would like to see scripture to support those strong statements lol 
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RE: Please Answer Seriously - 12/13/2008 6:06:33 AM
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"So the evening and the morning were the third day.
Then God said, "Let there be lights in the firmament of the heavens to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs and seasons, and for days and years; and let them be for lights in the firmament of the heavens to give light on the earth"; and it was so." Genesis 1:13-14
this is fun to chew on!
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RE: Please Answer Seriously - 12/13/2008 7:08:56 PM
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I think it very possible, almost likely, that there exists, somewhere in the vastness of the universe, other sentient life forms.
Having said that, I do NOT believe they are visiting here. Sin exists in only one spot of the universe: here. I think this planet is under quarantine, and even though there will be an explosion of knowledge during the millennium, I do not believe that man will be able to visit other planets until the restoration of the cosmos, which takes place after the millennium.
Then the curse of sin will be removed, never to mar creation again!
Man will again have full use of his brain capacity. A two year old will make Einstein look like a blithering idiot! That is when I believe that man will develop interstellar travel, and expand into the universe.
The Bible doesn't address the question of life on other planets, because that is not germane to the issue of sin, it's consequences, and cure. While I am not a Catholic, I do agree with the Vatican on this point: that belief in extraterrestrial life is not contrary to the Christian faith.
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RE: Please Answer Seriously - 12/15/2008 12:45:22 PM
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ORIGINAL: SNOW_MAN
Please do!
Sorry for the wait. Have been in other threads lately and busy.
Finney:
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That the work of Atonement was the most interesting and impressive exhibition of God that ever was made in this world and probably in the universe...
That, therefore, the Atonement is the highest means of promoting virtue that exists in this world, and perhaps in the universe. And that it is valuable only, and just so far as it reveals God, and tends to promote virtue and happiness.
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Now, as it can never be expected, that the Atonement will be repeated, it is forever settled, that rebellion in any other world than this, can have no hope of impunity....
This world is to be turned back to its allegiance to God, and the blessed Atonement of Christ has so unbosomed God before the universe, as, no doubt, not only to save other worlds from going into rebellion, but to save myriads of our already rebellious race from the depths of an eternal hell. my emphasis.
Interesting how he simply assumes that other worlds probably exist, and how he sees the atonement as pertinent to all the universe - making the work of Christ vastly more important and large than what we tend to think.
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The Word is like its Author, infinite, immeasurable, without end. If you were ordained to be a preacher throughout eternity, you would have before you a theme equal to everlasting demands. Brothers, shall we each have a pulpit somewhere amidst the spheres? Shall we have a parish of millions of leagues? Shall we have voices so strengthened as to reach attentive constellations? Shall we be witnesses for the Lord of grace to myriads of worlds which will be wonder-struck when they hear of the incarnate God? Shall we be surrounded by pure intelligences enquiring and searching into the mystery of God manifest in the flesh? Will the unfallen worlds desire to be instructed in the glorious gospel of the blessed God? And will each one of us have his own tale to tell of our experience of infinite love? I think so, since the Lord has saved us "to the intent that now unto the principalities and powers in heavenly places might be known by the church of the manifold wisdom of God." If such be the case, our Bibles will suffice for ages to come for new themes every morning, and for fresh songs and discourses world without end. From "The Greatest Fight in the World"
ya just gotta love Spurgeon's eloquence and depth of insight and vision!
There are probably a lot more of the old line that said some things, directly or indirectly, on the subject.
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RE: Please Answer Seriously - 12/16/2008 2:25:37 PM
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I voted Possibly, for one reason type question: Did He make us first?
If God didn't make us first, then I am fairly sure that He probably did.
If God did make us first, considering the results, He would be out of His mind to attempt failure twice in a row. We, Humanity, are a mess, yet, He Loves us. Hmmmm.
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RE: Please Answer Seriously - 12/19/2008 11:29:57 PM
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Almost certainly yes to intelligent life existing elsewhere in the Universe (just a hunch, no data, of course), but almost certainly no to extraterrestrial intelligent life causing any of the so-called alien abductions or UFO sightings here on Earth. Natural explanations, fibs, and delusions explain all those.
It is possible that we are being observed (though not at all likely) but if we are then it is being done from space and with remote sensors (i.e. not little green man buzzing about in flying saucers).
All that leads me to believe that extra terrestrial intelligent life is probably very rare in any one single galaxy, so we could be all alone in the Milky Way, which would be a shame.
Theologically, I don't subscribe to a literal interpretation of Genesis, so I don't necessarily believe that we have to be the only intelligent life in the Universe (that would be a bit presumptuous).
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RE: Please Answer Seriously - 1/7/2009 7:34:49 PM
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Before i answer your question (considering my ability). i would like to say i love God and keep his commandments to show that i love him. This is not a lie.
I use to study science, spirituality, physics, and anything else interesting i could get my hands on. One day i gave it all up and turned to Jesus. Anyway, this happened the first time I got down on my knees and prayed, I flew (in spirit) thru the heavens (space) and into what I believe is the third heaven. I spoke with God and he was willing to answer my questions. First i asked, "how was the universe created"? He didn't reply with words but showed me. I still do not understand til this day what he showed me. Next I ask the same question your asking. "Are there other planets like earth"? He seemed displeased that I had asked him and gave me no reply whatsoever.
At first I was not content with the answers I was given to what seemed to me to be excellent questions (at the time). That was almost two years ago, now I'm very content God's responses. God help me realize that life is not gained thru knowledge, knowledge was the lie from the very begining. The real life and knowledge and power of God is Jesus Christ. The secret things belong to the Lord our God, but the things revealed belong to us and our children forever (Deut 29:29).
My best friend, Father, and God made all things. If a man reaches for all these hidden questions he is only reaching for darkness. Why not reach for the One who made them?
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RE: Please Answer Seriously - 1/7/2009 9:31:38 PM
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I have no idea.
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