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Philosophy courses at a secular college - 9/4/2008 12:51:14 AM
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cih92
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When I went to a secular college, I took some philosophy courses. I had the same professor for each of those classes and he would never give his opinion on anything. He would not say what his beliefs were. I could not discern what kind of worldview he had. I found this to be a surprise because I had heard that if you go to a secular college some professors will openly mock the Christian faith or at least show some kind of favoritism towards a particular belief system.
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RE: Philosophy courses at a secular college - 9/4/2008 9:56:39 AM
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triode
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Nothing like finding out the truth for yourself is there? Contrary to what some people would have us believe, secular does not equal evil. Sounds like that professor was doing his job correctly.
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RE: Philosophy courses at a secular college - 9/4/2008 10:22:03 AM
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None of my philosophy professors at the secular university I attended mocked Christianity or pushed their own agendas. Philosophy was a major facet of my degree. I enjoyed the classes. They were all pretty objective, none of the professors taught in a biased way. I'm pretty sure my Philosophy of Science professor was athiest, or agnostic at least, but he never pushed the issue or talked about it. Just taught the class. I even did a presentation on Creationism (chosen from the list of topics HE provided the class) and there was no ridiculing from anyone in the class.
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RE: Philosophy courses at a secular college - 9/4/2008 10:25:51 AM
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BlueAdept
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There are profs that will do that, there are others that will boldly state what they believe and mock those that are christians.
I had a friend of mine taking classes at a local college, she told me there was one class where the prof was openly gay. He pushed that agenda, and encouraged others to practice it.
So while some profs might not use their "bully pulpit" others will.
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RE: Philosophy courses at a secular college - 9/4/2008 11:01:16 AM
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selahgirl
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I minored in philosophy at a secular university, as a new Christian. It was quite challenging, and the dynamic was quite interesting as I worked thru a strict study of Scripture on my own accompanied by a strict discipleship series. The focus on religions of the world and the emphasis of putting Christianity on the same level as all other religions enabled me to truly weigh the teachings of each (something I would only ever do with MUCH PRAYER, and consistent conversation with God).
There was no comparison... it really burned my Faith in Jesus Christ into my heart and my character. My prof was a good guy, I learned to respect people of all religions in his class. There was a consistent line of mockery toward the Christian faith (sometimes subtle, sometimes blatant), but according to Scripture that was to be expected from a system framed by non-Christians and atheists (hence the name secular).
I encourage you to devour the Word of God, faithfully, as you study in a secular setting. There is much you can learn from such an experience, it can strengthen your faith in Christ or absolutely confuse you. Only you can decide what's important to you, only you can guard what you hold dear. Whatever measure of open-mindedness you choose to embrace... God allows each of us that freedom. Just use caution because I have seen that open-mindedness doctrine lead to compromise and sin time and time again. Know what and who you believe. Be wise concerning what you expose yourself to and what you embrace. It's fun to be eccentric, but it can take you down a dark road very unexpectedly.
(keeping in mind that there are spiritual whores trying to seduce you just as surely as flesh and blood whores line the streets around you). Consider Proverbs 6...
20 My son, keep your father’s command,
And do not forsake the law of your mother.
21 Bind them continually upon your heart;
Tie them around your neck.
22 When you roam, they will lead you;
When you sleep, they will keep you;
And when you awake, they will speak with you.
23 For the commandment is a lamp,
And the law a light;
Reproofs of instruction are the way of life,
24 To keep you from the evil woman,
From the flattering tongue of a seductress.
25 Do not lust after her beauty in your heart,
Nor let her allure you with her eyelids.
26 For by means of a harlot
A man is reduced to a crust of bread;
And an adulteress will prey upon his precious life.
27 Can a man take fire to his bosom,
And his clothes not be burned?
28 Can one walk on hot coals,
And his feet not be seared?
29 So is he who goes in to his neighbor’s wife;
Whoever touches her shall not be innocent.
You may find yourself having to live in the neighborhood, but you don't have to be intimate (have sex) with her.
^_^
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RE: Philosophy courses at a secular college - 9/4/2008 11:41:35 AM
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I took only one Philosophy course in college as an elective and the professor never gain his personal worldview on religion either, but did mention he was Buddhist. ...What I mean is, he nver tried to actively defend Buddhism.
He would always try to be objective and also refer to his own book and others that discuss comparative religion, but never did he try to push his views on us. We knew he was a Buddhist, but he always made a point to show all sides to a question and never impose his faith on us.
I found that refreshing.
O the other hand, I've had classes in the humanities where professors were very politically and theoretically oriented towards some particular subject area and would impose it on students relentlessly to the point of unfair grading at times. ...Those are the worst classes and good to know to get out of ASAP. You may find yourself in a fight to get a fair grade if you do not agree with the prof's views.
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RE: Philosophy courses at a secular college - 9/4/2008 12:06:43 PM
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I never once had a professor "mock" Christianity or any other belief system. Yes, some of them espoused their own beliefs in class, and I didn't always agree with those beliefs, but I think it's good to have some exposure to that sort of thing.
Like public school fears, I find these stories of renegade atheist professors largely overstated.
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RE: Philosophy courses at a secular college - 9/4/2008 4:05:23 PM
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miasma
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I find these stories of renegade atheist professors largely overstated.
No kidding.
I'd much rather attend a philosophy course at a secular school, where actual conversation and discussion might occur, than a Xian college, where everybody is just doing to regurgitate what the professor is saying, and agree about everything.
Rather defeats the purpose.
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RE: Philosophy courses at a secular college - 9/4/2008 9:15:12 PM
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cih92
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ORIGINAL: miasma
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I find these stories of renegade atheist professors largely overstated.
No kidding.
I'd much rather attend a philosophy course at a secular school, where actual conversation and discussion might occur, than a Xian college, where everybody is just doing to regurgitate what the professor is saying, and agree about everything.
Rather defeats the purpose.
I wonder what it would be like to take philosophy courses at a Christian college. Wouldn't a Christian professor explain how non-Christian philosophies can be refuted?
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RE: Philosophy courses at a secular college - 9/4/2008 9:17:19 PM
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cih92
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ORIGINAL: stellaluna
I never once had a professor "mock" Christianity or any other belief system. Yes, some of them espoused their own beliefs in class, and I didn't always agree with those beliefs, but I think it's good to have some exposure to that sort of thing.
Like public school fears, I find these stories of renegade atheist professors largely overstated.
I graduated from a secular college and I would say that most of my professors did not show open hostility to Christianity.
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RE: Philosophy courses at a secular college - 9/5/2008 12:08:56 PM
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miasma
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I wonder what it would be like to take philosophy courses at a Christian college. Wouldn't a Christian professor explain how non-Christian philosophies can be refuted?
My experience (as a drop-out philosophy major): the professor talks about various philosophies, then talks about why they aren't Christian, everybody in the class agrees with everything he says, and each other, the end.
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RE: Philosophy courses at a secular college - 9/6/2008 10:17:20 PM
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bzirk
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ORIGINAL: cih92
When I went to a secular college, I took some philosophy courses. I had the same professor for each of those classes and he would never give his opinion on anything. He would not say what his beliefs were. I could not discern what kind of worldview he had. I found this to be a surprise because I had heard that if you go to a secular college some professors will openly mock the Christian faith or at least show some kind of favoritism towards a particular belief system.
When I took some philosophy classes in college (about 30 years ago now), I had some teachers who were mocking and some who were not. My oldest daughter also ran into some mocking in her philosophy class. Frankly, these can be good experiences if someone is prepared for it.
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