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On Omen? Warning? Threat? - 10/20/2008 2:30:41 PM
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stamper_ben
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I take it as more of a threat. quote:
Sen. Joe Biden, D-Del., on Sunday guaranteed that if elected, Sen. Barack Obama., D-Ill., will be tested by an international crisis within his first six months in power and he will need supporters to stand by him as he makes tough, and possibly unpopular, decisions.
"Mark my words," the Democratic vice presidential nominee warned at the second of his two Seattle fundraisers Sunday. "It will not be six months before the world tests Barack Obama like they did John Kennedy. The world is looking. We're about to elect a brilliant 47-year-old senator president of the United States of America. Remember I said it standing here if you don't remember anything else I said. Watch, we're gonna have an international crisis, a generated crisis, to test the mettle of this guy."
Sounds like a threat to me. What's Joe the Senator know that the rest of us don't?
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"I've forgotten more about foreign policy than most of my colleagues know, so I'm not being falsely humble with you. I think I can be value added, but this guy has it," the Senate Foreign Relations chairman said of Obama. "This guy has it. But he's gonna need your help. Because I promise you, you all are gonna be sitting here a year from now going, 'Oh my God, why are they there in the polls? Why is the polling so down? Why is this thing so tough?' We're gonna have to make some incredibly tough decisions in the first two years. So I'm asking you now, I'm asking you now, be prepared to stick with us. Remember the faith you had at this point because you're going to have to reinforce us."
"There are gonna be a lot of you who want to go, 'Whoa, wait a minute, yo, whoa, whoa, I don't know about that decision'," Biden continued. "Because if you think the decision is sound when they're made, which I believe you will when they're made, they're not likely to be as popular as they are sound. Because if they're popular, they're probably not sound."
Sounds a bit like the Bill of Rights is going to be under attack to me.
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RE: On Omen? Warning? Threat? - 10/20/2008 2:40:44 PM
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Well, as I have pointed out before, Biden is quite fond of making things up - usually though he makes up past events, now it appears he has decided to make-up future events as well.
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RE: On Omen? Warning? Threat? - 10/20/2008 2:46:57 PM
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stamper_ben
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Well, as I have pointed out before, Biden is quite fond of making things up - usually though he makes up past events, now it appears he has decided to make-up future events as well. I suppose we can only pray that it is in his make-believe fantasy world Jack.
I fear otherwise. This is their chance to make changes to our country that will ensure their power for decades to come. What better guise than an "international crisis" of some sort?
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RE: On Omen? Warning? Threat? - 10/20/2008 2:53:16 PM
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There seems to be a pattern of slip ups about what the real agenda is between 0bama's truth squads, spread the wealth, and get in their faces.
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RE: On Omen? Warning? Threat? - 10/20/2008 2:55:59 PM
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So he is guaranteeing something very bad will happen once we elect Obama, and when he must take drastic measures that will be required to deal with this very bad thing, he is asking that we please love the ticket as much as you do now?
It sounds like from the whole transcript, that Obama will be tested more than McCain would ... and when that happens, just remember how much we "love" him now.
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RE: On Omen? Warning? Threat? - 10/20/2008 2:59:31 PM
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And... the extraordinary sound byte:
http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=201853
wow, with running mates like this, who needs political enemies!
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RE: On Omen? Warning? Threat? - 10/20/2008 3:00:42 PM
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Omen? Warning? Threat? None of the Above. 
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RE: On Omen? Warning? Threat? - 10/20/2008 3:02:24 PM
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‘Mark My Words’: Biden Promises Election of Obama Will Trigger ‘International Crisis’
Who wants a guarantee like that?
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RE: On Omen? Warning? Threat? - 10/20/2008 3:02:53 PM
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I actually agree with Biden. Obama is weak on defense and national security, he's an appeaser....factors that will only embolden our enemies.
As I mentioned in another thread, I believe we will see another major terrorist attack on US soil (on the scale of 9/11 or bigger) within a year of Obama taking office.
Why not? Our enemiues know that he won't retaliate in any meaningful way....
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RE: On Omen? Warning? Threat? - 10/20/2008 3:04:11 PM
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stamper_ben
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Omen? Warning? Threat? None of the Above.
Then please come forth and tell us just what Joe the . . . whatever was trying to tell the crowd before he noticed the press there.
< Message edited by stamper_ben -- 10/20/2008 3:16:31 PM >
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RE: On Omen? Warning? Threat? - 10/20/2008 3:05:53 PM
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I actually agree with Biden. Obama is weak on defense and national security, he's an appeaser....factors that will only embolden our enemies.
As I mentioned in another thread, I believe we will see another major terrorist attack on US soil (on the scale of 9/11 or bigger) within a year of Obama taking office.
Why not? Our enemiues know that he won't retaliate in any meaningful way....
What is your basis for this statment?
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RE: On Omen? Warning? Threat? - 10/20/2008 3:07:03 PM
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Psalms274
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Omen? Warning? Threat? None of the Above.
Obama's running mate seems to disagree with you. And as he has stated, he's "forgotten more about foreign policy than most of my colleagues know, so I'm not being falsely humble with you." Direct Biden quote from the same link as above.
Just in case you do not look up the link ... here's the quote from Joe this thread is based on:
"Mark my words," the Democratic vice presidential nominee warned at the second of his two Seattle fundraisers Sunday. "It will not be six months before the world tests Barack Obama like they did John Kennedy. The world is looking. We're about to elect a brilliant 47-year-old senator president of the United States of America. Remember I said it standing here if you don't remember anything else I said. Watch, we're gonna have an international crisis, a generated crisis, to test the mettle of this guy."
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RE: On Omen? Warning? Threat? - 10/20/2008 3:07:22 PM
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stamper_ben
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What is your basis for this statment? He stated it kid. He's an appeaser.
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RE: On Omen? Warning? Threat? - 10/20/2008 3:10:43 PM
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What is your basis for this statment? He stated it kid. He's an appeaser.
Appease:
1. To bring peace, quiet, or calm to; soothe.
2. To satisfy or relieve: appease one's thirst.
3. To pacify or attempt to pacify (an enemy) by granting concessions, often at the expense of principle.
Even assuming that he meant the last definition, the question remains...what's the basis for this?
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RE: On Omen? Warning? Threat? - 10/20/2008 3:12:39 PM
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Let's not be too hasty guys. This is exactly the same sort of conspiracy theory the Left has been spewing about President Bush for seven years now. Let's not start acting just like them.
That isn't to say I don't believe some fundamental freedoms would not be attacked by an Obama administration. But those concerns are rooted solidly in what he and his supporters are doing right now, as well as the Senator's established record on certain issues.
I believe we will see an unprecedented assault on free speech. One need only see the lengths Obama's campaign and supporters have gone to to silence opposition to fear this. The Second Amendment will likely also be attacked judging by Senator Obama's record on guns, and his stated belief that government can regulate individual rights (spoken in regards to a handgun ban). I also expect religious freedom to come under fire beginning with Hate Crimes legislation, which has been used to persecute Christians who oppose the homosexual agenda everywhere it's been enacted. And that's just the beginning. Once one more liberal justice is appointed to the Supreme Court, expect the gloves to really come off.
Obama would not need a crisis to shred the Bill of Rights. I think he's quite capable of doing that on his own.
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RE: On Omen? Warning? Threat? - 10/20/2008 3:13:32 PM
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ORIGINAL: stamper_ben
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What is your basis for this statment? He stated it kid. He's an appeaser.
Appease:
1. To bring peace, quiet, or calm to; soothe.
2. To satisfy or relieve: appease one's thirst.
3. To pacify or attempt to pacify (an enemy) by granting concessions, often at the expense of principle.
Even assuming that he meant the last definition, the question remains...what's the basis for this?
I think you need to ask Joe Biden why ... he's the one who said it.
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RE: On Omen? Warning? Threat? - 10/20/2008 3:14:51 PM
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What is your basis for this statment? He stated it kid. He's an appeaser.
Appease:
1. To bring peace, quiet, or calm to; soothe.
2. To satisfy or relieve: appease one's thirst.
3. To pacify or attempt to pacify (an enemy) by granting concessions, often at the expense of principle.
Even assuming that he meant the last definition, the question remains...what's the basis for this?
Yeah, you're right. What's "principal" in these times anyway...
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RE: On Omen? Warning? Threat? - 10/20/2008 3:16:41 PM
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Psalms274
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Obama would not need a crisis to shred the Bill of Rights. I think he's quite capable of doing that on his own.
I think the thing I have found to be most disconcerting is that the Vice Presidential nominee is saying that we need to brace ourselves when his ticket gets elected, because something very bad will happen to test him right away.
Joe Biden's statement is a wonderful commercial on why not to vote for Obama.
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RE: On Omen? Warning? Threat? - 10/20/2008 3:18:34 PM
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Omen? Warning? Threat? None of the Above.
Then please come forth and tell us just what Joe the . . . whatever was trying to tell the crowd before he noticed the press there.
So kid, Let me not wait as long as I have in the past to re-ask the question of you.
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RE: On Omen? Warning? Threat? - 10/20/2008 3:19:40 PM
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‘Mark My Words’: Biden Promises Election of Obama Will Trigger ‘International Crisis’
Who wants a guarantee like that?
Gives me a great idea for a campaign ad. If the world would want to test Obama with a crisis, why not elect someone they wouldn't have to test instead. Vote McCain!
(Or something like that.)
-Robb
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RE: On Omen? Warning? Threat? - 10/20/2008 3:22:39 PM
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Joe Biden's statement is a wonderful commercial on why not to vote for Obama.
LOL! I think we're on the same wavelength Psalms!
-Robb
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RE: On Omen? Warning? Threat? - 10/20/2008 3:23:22 PM
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ORIGINAL: Psalms274
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ORIGINAL: rjthakid
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What is your basis for this statment? He stated it kid. He's an appeaser.
Appease:
1. To bring peace, quiet, or calm to; soothe.
2. To satisfy or relieve: appease one's thirst.
3. To pacify or attempt to pacify (an enemy) by granting concessions, often at the expense of principle.
Even assuming that he meant the last definition, the question remains...what's the basis for this?
I think you need to ask Joe Biden why ... he's the one who said it.
??? You missed my question. I was referring to Takfam's statement that:
"Our enemiues know that he won't retaliate in any meaningful way"
I asked him what is the basis for this statement.
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RE: On Omen? Warning? Threat? - 10/20/2008 3:24:48 PM
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Let's not be too hasty guys. This is exactly the same sort of conspiracy theory the Left has been spewing about President Bush for seven years now. Let's not start acting just like them.
Surely you jest.
The Muslim propaganda likely wasn't spread by Dems. 
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RE: On Omen? Warning? Threat? - 10/20/2008 3:30:49 PM
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Psalms274
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Joe Biden's statement is a wonderful commercial on why not to vote for Obama.
LOL! I think we're on the same wavelength Psalms!
-Robb
Reading his full statement, there was nothing that he said that would make anyone hope to vote for the candidate he was speaking about ... now I bet you if you replace Obama's name with someone else, the voter would whole heartedly agree that this would be a dangerous candidate. But if you let them know it was about Obama, there would be lots of hemming and hawing ... but for the undecideds, it is a wonderful selling point on why not to vote for the man.
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