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Obama Overcame All Obsticles Thrown at him - 11/5/2008 11:05:25 AM
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the economy seemed to be the #1 american concern. When you are faced with your home forclosed, no job, etc., this can take precedence over the war, abortions, gay marriage, etc.. especially if you are not a religous person who had morals as a #1 priority.
but also, the other obstacles did not hamper Obama's win of presidency... his birth certificate, his alleged ties with jeremiah wright and ayers, the attack on him of inexperience, the allegations of him being a muslim and what that means, etc etc etc..
Obama overcame all those things, and still won. He carried himself as a confident person, he took the high road by not constantly being on the defense of the thigns that were thrown at him, he just kept plodding on.
It was amazing watching the strategy he used, similar to the game you may have played as a kid "Risk" where you captured each country using strategy.
Oh and i think that 30 minute commercial helped.
And the thing that I am happy about most is that he was a powerful symbol to all the people who are STILL LIVING that experienced the tragedies of the pre-civil rights era. And now that is a huge victory for them.. of which I am glad.
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RE: Obama Overcame All Obsticles Thrown at him - 11/5/2008 11:14:44 AM
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True, it does seem like he had many advantages, i.e. a wad of money to be able to spend. That helped greatly too. I still do not understand the thing about the issue about him taking money for his campaign.
even so, since people voted for him - it was in our hands - and people did not care or did not make morals their highest priority. did peopel disregard those things? or were other concerns looming too close to their face and blotted out these more serious moral issues.
morals took a low priority in this election.. i mean for those that felt abortion and gay rights were of a high priority.
ha! Even the weather was perfect for him yesterday in chicago!
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RE: Obama Overcame All Obsticles Thrown at him - 11/5/2008 11:17:44 AM
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True, it does seem like he had many advantages, i.e. a wad of money to be able to spend. That helped greatly too. I still do not understand the thing about the issue about him taking money for his campaign.
ha! Even the weather was perfect for him yesterday in chicago!
The issue wasn't taking money, it was how he took money.
But it doesn't really matter; Obama killed public financing, which is ironic, since it was always a big issue with the Democrats.
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RE: Obama Overcame All Obsticles Thrown at him - 11/5/2008 11:19:00 AM
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what do you think made mccain lose the election? what could mccain have done to win?
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RE: Obama Overcame All Obsticles Thrown at him - 11/5/2008 11:23:50 AM
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Well, if he had been younger, less white, a better communicator, was able to distinguish himself by having held historically different positions from Obama (i.e., was actually conservative), had rejected public financing, and was able to single handedly solve the economic crisis, Obama wouldn't have had a chance.
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RE: Obama Overcame All Obsticles Thrown at him - 11/5/2008 11:25:57 AM
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also George Bush's shadow on him, for being in the same Republican party as GWB, and by the claim that mccain agreed with him 90% of the time (whether this is a fact i dont know, but this is what they were all saying/claiming).
GWB pretty much soured it for the next guy. his approval rating was waaaayyy way down.
but have hope, if Obama does a bad job, believe me, peopel will vote Republican next time.
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RE: Obama Overcame All Obsticles Thrown at him - 11/5/2008 11:27:22 AM
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Obama didn't "overcome" all obstacles, he ignored them and was allowed to. Which brings me to the next question you had - "what do you think made mccain lose the election? what could mccain have done to win?" McAmnesty didn't force the issue on the questions that were dodged. He should have made Wright, Ayers and redistribution the issues. His staff fell down on the job by not digging into and finding the pledge he made to the SF Chronicles editorial staff that electric prices are going to go through the roof and the coal industry will be bankrupted.
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RE: Obama Overcame All Obsticles Thrown at him - 11/5/2008 11:28:16 AM
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also George Bush's shadow on him, for being in the same Republican party as GWB, and by the claim that mccain agreed with him 90% of the time (whether this is a fact i dont know, but this is what they were all saying/claiming).
GWB pretty much soured it for the next guy. his approval rating was waaaayyy way down.
If the economy hadn't been in the tank, this wouldn't have been that big of a factor.
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but have hope, if Obama does a bad job, believe me, peopel will vote Republican next time.
For a number of critical issues, it may not matter.
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RE: Obama Overcame All Obsticles Thrown at him - 11/5/2008 11:29:16 AM
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what do you think made mccain lose the election? what could mccain have done to win?
I'm frankly not sure there is anything McCain could've done to win. The electoral numbers may have been closer, is he had distanced himself a little more from President Bush from the very beginning - but OTOH, McCain has supported many of the Bush administration's policies that he believed were right for the U.S.
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RE: Obama Overcame All Obsticles Thrown at him - 11/5/2008 11:34:57 AM
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ORIGINAL: IMA_CHRISTIAN
the economy seemed to be the #1 american concern. When you are faced with your home forclosed, no job, etc., this can take precedence over the war, abortions, gay marriage, etc.. especially if you are not a religous person who had morals as a #1 priority.
but also, the other obstacles did not hamper Obama's win of presidency... his birth certificate, his alleged ties with jeremiah wright and ayers, the attack on him of inexperience, the allegations of him being a muslim and what that means, etc etc etc..
Greetings
but also, the other obstacles did not hamper Obama's win of presidency
... his birth certificate, his alleged ties with jeremiah wright and ayers, the attack on him of inexperience, the allegations of him being a muslim and what that means, etc etc etc..
These did not hamper Obama's purchase of presidency...because they all represent the # 1 morality issues,
If we read the Bible... the economy was not the result of failed Bush policies, Obama has his head so far into the world… he doesn’t realize it’s the symptom of immorality… which is issue #1 in priority
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Obama Overcame All Obstacles Thrown at him
Not exactly.. if he is not intent on fixing #1 priorities… then his obstacles have only just begun  ...God will have that last word
It’s just a matter of time
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RE: Obama Overcame All Obsticles Thrown at him - 11/5/2008 11:40:11 AM
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Obama didn't "overcome" all obstacles, he ignored them and was allowed to. Which brings me to the next question you had - "what do you think made mccain lose the election? what could mccain have done to win?" McAmnesty didn't force the issue on the questions that were dodged. He should have made Wright, Ayers and redistribution the issues. His staff fell down on the job by not digging into and finding the pledge he made to the SF Chronicles editorial staff that electric prices are going to go through the roof and the coal industry will be bankrupted.
LOL.
Right, if McCain had run his campaign like the liberal democrats do all theirs,
he would have had a bigger chance. This election was won by fraud and deceit.
But, I do not want to take away from what it meant for the blacks and what it
means symbolically. That is a really big thing for them. So, again the race was
all about "race" this go round. But, I feel really "glad" for "them." That still does
not make Obama good for the country. Hopefully the "office" will moderate him
to move to the center. But that won't have any affect on the ultra left like pelosi
and reid.
I was hoping for "mercy" but looks like we will move into "judgment."
Only time will tell if it's time for the judgment of all our perversement to come to
light or not.
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RE: Obama Overcame All Obsticles Thrown at him - 11/5/2008 11:55:23 AM
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whether or not you like obama, or agree with him,.... do you feel he has a huge job ahead of him?
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RE: Obama Overcame All Obsticles Thrown at him - 11/5/2008 11:56:54 AM
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whether or not you like obama, or agree with him,.... do you feel he has a huge job ahead of him? Naw. Being leader of the free world is a cakewalk.
<sarcasm off now>
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RE: Obama Overcame All Obsticles Thrown at him - 11/5/2008 11:58:54 AM
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It's a big job no matter who gets it.
Hopefully it will a big enough job he will be unable
to turn us into a complete socialist country.
Any see the russian flag on the white house street
as the youth were celebrating?
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RE: Obama Overcame All Obsticles Thrown at him - 11/5/2008 11:59:37 AM
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lol..
the first major hurdle is going thru the budget line by line as i remember he promised.. that will be huge.
then mrs obama will be decorating the White House. I know she will update the decor!
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RE: Obama Overcame All Obsticles Thrown at him - 11/5/2008 12:45:19 PM
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the economy seemed to be the #1 american concern. When you are faced with your home forclosed, no job, etc., this can take precedence over the war, abortions, gay marriage, etc.. especially if you are not a religous person who had morals as a #1 priority.
but also, the other obstacles did not hamper Obama's win of presidency... his birth certificate, his alleged ties with jeremiah wright and ayers, the attack on him of inexperience, the allegations of him being a muslim and what that means, etc etc etc..
Obama overcame all those things, and still won. He carried himself as a confident person, he took the high road by not constantly being on the defense of the thigns that were thrown at him, he just kept plodding on.
It was amazing watching the strategy he used, similar to the game you may have played as a kid "Risk" where you captured each country using strategy.
Oh and i think that 30 minute commercial helped.
And the thing that I am happy about most is that he was a powerful symbol to all the people who are STILL LIVING that experienced the tragedies of the pre-civil rights era. And now that is a huge victory for them.. of which I am glad.
You sound like a very devoted disciple of your new king!
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RE: Obama Overcame All Obsticles Thrown at him - 11/5/2008 12:47:57 PM
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ORIGINAL: stamper_ben
Obama didn't "overcome" all obstacles, he ignored them and was allowed to. Which brings me to the next question you had - "what do you think made mccain lose the election? what could mccain have done to win?" McAmnesty didn't force the issue on the questions that were dodged. He should have made Wright, Ayers and redistribution the issues. His staff fell down on the job by not digging into and finding the pledge he made to the SF Chronicles editorial staff that electric prices are going to go through the roof and the coal industry will be bankrupted.
LOL.
Right, if McCain had run his campaign like the liberal democrats do all theirs,
he would have had a bigger chance. This election was won by fraud and deceit.
But, I do not want to take away from what it meant for the blacks and what it
means symbolically. That is a really big thing for them. So, again the race was
all about "race" this go round. But, I feel really "glad" for "them." That still does
not make Obama good for the country. Hopefully the "office" will moderate him
to move to the center. But that won't have any affect on the ultra left like pelosi
and reid.
I was hoping for "mercy" but looks like we will move into "judgment."
Only time will tell if it's time for the judgment of all our perversement to come to
light or not.
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Right, if McCain had run his campaign like the liberal democrats do all theirs,
he would have had a bigger chance. This election was won by fraud and deceit.
But, I do not want to take away from what it meant for the blacks and what it
means symbolically.
To me symbolically it means just that, the examples expressed to the new young voters is that you can have anything that is won by fraud and deceit and bias media
BUT
Does that end justify the means... so to speak!
When they get older... they will see it for themselves 
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I was hoping for "mercy" but looks like we will move into "judgment."
Since his made conscious decisions "to move away" from the Lord... as reflected by his policies
….. I believe that judgment in the scripture may be in the likeness of Lots wife, In principal
…whereby moving forward and not looking back will be that test,
but then again since he is socialist.. and that alone kind of changes that picture a little ….because the true belief of socialism is the belief that he owes the people nothing... but that the people owe the Gov first……before they will receive
Totally opposite of the Gospel!
And....By that and in the same measure of principle, of Lots wife
…I believe when all those who are expecting something in return… that they may not get what they expected;
And when he “looks back”… for that support again… it will not be there.
And after all the high dissipates…. that may be ...Sooner than we expect!
Mark these words ...for future reference
LG
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RE: Obama Overcame All Obsticles Thrown at him - 11/5/2008 12:58:33 PM
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Obama?Please...I'm absolutely embarrassed that so called "African-American Christians" can throw away their "beliefs" and vote for someone who is pro abortion and Gay marriage.
It is a historical feat that Obama won the election,but it is by no means a surprise.America,like all other countries are Liberals and it was clear that the Media was for Obama.
I am Canadian so my opinion doesn't mean anything,but I have been following the Election just to see how many "Christian African-Americans" would forget about their so called "beliefs" and I was sadly correct.
I was almost drawn to tears how Few "professing Christians" really stand by the word of God.I am an alien to 98% of my colleagues simply because I as an African-Canadian care more for the Word of God than my skin color.
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RE: Obama Overcame All Obsticles Thrown at him - 11/5/2008 12:58:48 PM
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the economy seemed to be the #1 american concern. When you are faced with your home forclosed, no job, etc., this can take precedence over the war, abortions, gay marriage, etc.. especially if you are not a religous person who had morals as a #1 priority.
but also, the other obstacles did not hamper Obama's win of presidency... his birth certificate, his alleged ties with jeremiah wright and ayers, the attack on him of inexperience, the allegations of him being a muslim and what that means, etc etc etc..
Obama overcame all those things, and still won. He carried himself as a confident person, he took the high road by not constantly being on the defense of the thigns that were thrown at him, he just kept plodding on.
It was amazing watching the strategy he used, similar to the game you may have played as a kid "Risk" where you captured each country using strategy.
Oh and i think that 30 minute commercial helped.
And the thing that I am happy about most is that he was a powerful symbol to all the people who are STILL LIVING that experienced the tragedies of the pre-civil rights era. And now that is a huge victory for them.. of which I am glad.
You sound like a very devoted disciple of your new king!
who? King Jesus? YES! King Jesus is my king.
I accept what happened - Obama won - and I am not in the gloom and doom crowd. I have a wait and see attitutde. When Obama actually does something that you all are warning us about, I will remember what ya'll said and then I will attend to it.
I do think obama will surpise some of you and he will do a good job.
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RE: Obama Overcame All Obsticles Thrown at him - 11/5/2008 1:02:27 PM
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ORIGINAL: Peter_Gunn
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ORIGINAL: IMA_CHRISTIAN
the economy seemed to be the #1 american concern. When you are faced with your home forclosed, no job, etc., this can take precedence over the war, abortions, gay marriage, etc.. especially if you are not a religous person who had morals as a #1 priority.
but also, the other obstacles did not hamper Obama's win of presidency... his birth certificate, his alleged ties with jeremiah wright and ayers, the attack on him of inexperience, the allegations of him being a muslim and what that means, etc etc etc..
Obama overcame all those things, and still won. He carried himself as a confident person, he took the high road by not constantly being on the defense of the thigns that were thrown at him, he just kept plodding on.
It was amazing watching the strategy he used, similar to the game you may have played as a kid "Risk" where you captured each country using strategy.
Oh and i think that 30 minute commercial helped.
And the thing that I am happy about most is that he was a powerful symbol to all the people who are STILL LIVING that experienced the tragedies of the pre-civil rights era. And now that is a huge victory for them.. of which I am glad.
You sound like a very devoted disciple of your new king!
who? King Jesus? YES! King Jesus is my king.
I accept what happened - Obama won - and I am not in the gloom and doom crowd. I have a wait and see attitutde. When Obama actually does something that you all are warning us about, I will remember what ya'll said and then I will attend to it.
I do think obama will surpise some of you and he will do a good job.
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I do think obama will surpise some of you and he will do a good job.
Again,I am not an American so my point may not matter much.But if i was an American,I wouldn't care Obama saved me from the financial crisis and all the other "positive' things he may do.My concern is his stand on Abortion and Gay Marriage,I rather be the poorest man on earth than to say yes to Abortion and Gay marriage.
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RE: Obama Overcame All Obsticles Thrown at him - 11/5/2008 1:02:31 PM
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Let's put blame where blame is due. Our politics has been in the tank for several generations. We pray less, look to preachers who are now preaching right diets, right exercise programs, right financial investments, give to me and you will be rewarded a hundred fold, etc. The message of Christ has become secondary to the desires of this Kingdom down here. And by the way, 60-70% of the voting public has never voted until this election. Our government has been run by thieves and thugs because they have been elected by a minority of voters.
We deserve Obama, plain and simple.
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RE: Obama Overcame All Obsticles Thrown at him - 11/5/2008 1:04:03 PM
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Again,I am not an American so my point may not matter much.But if i was an American,I wouldn't care Obama saved me from the financial crisis and all the other "positive' things he may do.My concern is his stand on Abortion and Gay Marriage,I rather be the poorest man on earth than to say yes to Abortion and Gay marriage.
I truly believe we can thank the current president - George Bush - for helping Obama get elected.
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