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Obama's One World Speech - 7/24/2008 2:53:46 PM
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Jhud
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Full transcript here.
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In this new world, such dangerous currents have swept along faster than our efforts to contain them. That is why we cannot afford to be divided. No one nation, no matter how large or powerful, can defeat such challenges alone. None of us can deny these threats, or escape responsibility in meeting them. Yet, in the absence of Soviet tanks and a terrible wall, it has become easy to forget this truth. And if we're honest with each other, we know that sometimes, on both sides of the Atlantic, we have drifted apart, and forgotten our shared destiny.
In Europe, the view that America is part of what has gone wrong in our world, rather than a force to help make it right, has become all too common. In America, there are voices that deride and deny the importance of Europe's role in our security and our future. Both views miss the truth -- that Europeans today are bearing new burdens and taking more responsibility in critical parts of the world; and that just as American bases built in the last century still help to defend the security of this continent, so does our country still sacrifice greatly for freedom around the globe.
Yes, there have been differences between America and Europe. No doubt, there will be differences in the future. But the burdens of global citizenship continue to bind us together. A change of leadership in Washington will not lift this burden. In this new century, Americans and Europeans alike will be required to do more -- not less. Partnership and cooperation among nations is not a choice; it is the one way, the only way, to protect our common security and advance our common humanity.
That is why the greatest danger of all is to allow new walls to divide us from one another. The walls between old allies on either side of the Atlantic cannot stand. The walls between the countries with the most and those with the least cannot stand. The walls between races and tribes; natives and immigrants; Christian and Muslim and Jew cannot stand. These now are the walls we must tear down.
We know they have fallen before. After centuries of strife, the people of Europe have formed a Union of promise and prosperity. Here, at the base of a column built to mark victory in war, we meet in the center of a Europe at peace. Not only have walls come down in Berlin, but they have come down in Belfast, where Protestant and Catholic found a way to live together; in the Balkans, where our Atlantic alliance ended wars and brought savage war criminals to justice; and in South Africa, where the struggle of a courageous people defeated apartheid. So history reminds us that walls can be torn down. But the task is never easy. True partnership and true progress requires constant work and sustained sacrifice. They require sharing the burdens of development and diplomacy; of progress and peace. They require allies who will listen to each other, learn from each other and, most of all, trust each other.
That is why America cannot turn inward. That is why Europe cannot turn inward. America has no better partner than Europe. Now is the time to build new bridges across the globe as strong as the one that bound us across the Atlantic. Now is the time to join together, through constant cooperation, strong institutions, shared sacrifice, and a global commitment to progress, to meet the challenges of the 21st century. It was this spirit that led airlift planes to appear in the sky above our heads, and people to assemble where we stand today. And this is the moment when our nations -- and all nations -- must summon that spirit anew.
I'd like to teach the world to sing, in perfect harmony....
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RE: Obama's One World Speech - 7/24/2008 3:02:17 PM
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It is the dawning of the age of Obamasis.
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RE: Obama's One World Speech - 7/24/2008 3:10:37 PM
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Jhud
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It is the dawning of the age of Obamasis.
Hah!
When the moon is in the Seventh House and Jupiter aligns with Mars...
It's hard to tell, because it is the usual Obamastyle over substance talk, but it appears he is asking the Europeans to help him fight terrorism by delivering food airlifts to them.
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RE: Obama's One World Speech - 7/24/2008 4:31:50 PM
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It is the dawning of the age of Obamasis.
That was funny!
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It's hard to tell, because it is the usual Obamastyle over substance talk
I would beg to differ only because he makes no mention of the 57 states and some of those other speaking gaffes that make me laugh.
Just from what you posted (I'm not sure if that was the entire speech) it was some of the best campaign gobbledygook I have ever read. Every candidate in every election has their own gobbledygook but this was art. In honesty I think it was a great speech but nothing I would take too serious in an election year.
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RE: Obama's One World Speech - 7/24/2008 4:34:41 PM
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This sounds suspiciously like Kerry's "global test"
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RE: Obama's One World Speech - 7/24/2008 5:02:34 PM
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200,000 Germans showed up!
http://rawstory.com/news/afp/Obama_draws_crowd_of_200_000_in_Ber_07242008.html
Obama is now the biggest thing to hit Germany since David Hasselhoff.
And we all know how much Germans love David Hasselhoff.
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RE: Obama's One World Speech - 7/24/2008 6:37:55 PM
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There is a wall between Christian and Musims, Obama... It's called the truth and I for one hope it never comes down...
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RE: Obama's One World Speech - 7/24/2008 9:32:22 PM
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Phil Graham was right.
I've never seen so much whining on the part of people in the McCain camp, the GOP bloggers and on Fox news. It was McCain who suggested Obama go to Iraq. I'm sure that McCain and a lot of the anti-Obamanation just knew for sure that Obama was going to make a fool out of himself. That he was going to show his ignorance and make some gaffe or "gotcha" they could loop non-stop to show what an ignorant fool he is on foreign policy.
So, since that hasn't happened, not yet anyway, some of you are obviously disappointed. But don't get frustrated. While you anxiously await for the gleeful moment when Obama totally goofs and embarasses our country and causes irrepairable damage to our image overseas, here's what you can do:
1. Blame the media for giving the trip too much attention. Shame, Shame, Shame on the media. If it wasn't for those three news anchors following him around, Obama wouldn't have been received as enthusiastically everywhere he's gone. Those 200,000 people who showed up in Germany weren't there to see Obama. They just wanted a chance to get on TV or to meet Katie Couric.
Note: Keep in mind, this may backfire because if Obama starts stumbling, like talking about a border between Pakistan and Iraq, and the media isn't there to report it, or don't give his gaffes enough attention, some people would be whining about how the mainstream media wasn't giving his trip ENOUGH attention.
2. Use this logic: The reason Obama was received so warmly in Germany is because those 200,000 people are all a bunch of American hating, baby murdering, gay, muslim, socialist, anti-Christian people who believe Obama shares their views. Yeah, that's the ticket! And president Reagan had large crowds in Germany, but most of them were protesting him! The way to determine how good a president Obama will be, is to count how many people boo, heckle, protest and try to kill him abroad. Not how many people like him. Please. Everybody knows that.
3. Keep hope alive! The trips not over yet. He could still make a fool out of himself and embarrass our country in front of the Brits.
- Julius
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RE: Obama's One World Speech - 7/24/2008 10:24:20 PM
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henny
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It was McCain who suggested Obama go to Iraq.
Too true.
McCain has been baiting Obama for weeks, complaining that he hasn't been to the Middle East lately.
So Obama is just giving him what he asked for, only to the nth power.
But now McCain is complaining that it's inappropriate for a presidential Candidate to speak in foreign countries (conveniently forgetting that he'd done the same himself, both in Iraq and Canada, since he has been running for president: http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/07/24/1220326.aspx ).
Not that Obama is above criticism, though.
I think he did make one massive misstep when he spoke in Germany, a misstep that I think could very well cost him the election: he didn't speak to the audience while rocking a magical light up leather jacket accompanied by synth heavy 1980s beats (click to see the magic!). I'm surprised at the incompetence of his staff for letting him make such an easy mistake.
Heads are going to roll!
(ok, I promise that this is the very last "Germans love David Hasselhoff" joke. I just couldn't resist one more)
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RE: Obama's One World Speech - 7/24/2008 10:37:57 PM
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Greetings! May the Wailing Wall of Truth that comes to bring division, oneday make us All one in Him to serve The Lord Our God. That all unity may oneday be restored. For their number could not be counted there were so many who served God as written in Revelation. We are to love our enemies, do Good to others, pray for others. Blessed are you when men are excluded because of Me is what is written. For everyone whose name is found in the Lamb's Book of Life will be judged, then saved is written in revelation. Jesus is The Most Merciful and All authority in heaven and on earth is Given to Him. They are those that are counted among the worthy to inherit eternal Life that bear Good Fruits so that The Father Will not remove them from The Garden that He Planted.
For My Spirit will be poured out upon all flesh is what is written regarding the last days. For those that are in the Book of Life are written about before creation began.
Regarding The Kingdom of God, one is born again by water and Spirit as a new creation created in Christ Jesus unto Works that The One has prepared beforehand, that the Works will remain as Glory to God Almighty for He who began working through you unto The Kingdom will carry it forward until The Great and Terrible Day of Judgment Before The Throne of God Almighty and The Judgment Seat of Christ Jesus as written. Jesus said that this is the way it is on earth to Nicodemus. For Jesus said Your Kingdom Come, Your Will be Done on the earth as in heaven.
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There is a wall between Christian and Musims, Obama... It's called the truth and I for one hope it never comes down...
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RE: Obama's One World Speech - 7/24/2008 11:05:14 PM
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It seems to me what Obama is speaking out against is isolationism. Plus, why shouldn't he reach out to our European allies - of which Germany is one?
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RE: Obama's One World Speech - 7/25/2008 10:05:18 AM
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It seems to me what Obama is speaking out against is isolationism. Plus, why shouldn't he reach out to our European allies - of which Germany is one?
I do believe from a whole litany of Barad Hussein Obama's statements that he wants more that to "Reach out", he seem to want the worlds permission for anything we do here in the United States.
He has referred too many times to what othere might think about what we do.
I for one think that is a dangerous trek to be on. I just get the feeling he want the United Nations's permission for domestic policy and actions.
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RE: Obama's One World Speech - 7/25/2008 4:00:35 PM
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I do believe from a whole litany of Barad Hussein Obama's statements that he wants more that to "Reach out", he seem to want the worlds permission for anything we do here in the United States.
He has referred too many times to what othere might think about what we do.
...and it's too bad that so Americans don't recognize that what others think of us does matter if we want to achieve our foreign policy objectives.
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I for one think that is a dangerous trek to be on. I just get the feeling he want the United Nations's permission for domestic policy and actions.
...typical -- invoke the evil UN when a President promotes multi-laterism.
...Obama after meeting with the French President today:
"So my goal is just to make sure that, whether it's our European allies, whether it's Muslim countries, whether it's our friends in Asia, that people feel as if the United States is taking their interests, their concerns into account, and that we are interested in the prosperity and peace of ordinary people, and not just seeing our foreign policy only through the lens of our own security."
He's right. And ultimately, our security is enhanced when ordinary people have a positive view of the United States.
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RE: Obama's One World Speech - 7/25/2008 4:47:46 PM
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I've heard a fair amount of the speech (not all but a lot) and it seems to me that Barrack is running not for the Presidency of the United States but rather for the Presidency of the World!!
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RE: Obama's One World Speech - 7/25/2008 5:30:22 PM
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I may be an old Preacher, and my memory may be failing me but my wife definitely said she had the same memory, and that was of about three years ago when Obama was elected Senator and either he or his wife said he was muslim. Now, we hear he belongs to the Church of Christ.
Although I do hope there has been a conversion and a soul has been saved, I also pray that this is not the practice of a man who has conveniently "Found" Jesus Christ for the duration of this election. If I am mistaken about him being Muslim, I apologize, but I am almost positive I heard this.
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RE: Obama's One World Speech - 7/25/2008 5:31:38 PM
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I've heard a fair amount of the speech (not all but a lot) and it seems to me that Barrack is running not for the Presidency of the United States but rather for the Presidency of the World!!
and he apparently he ripped off Bono's opening from Live Aid
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RE: Obama's One World Speech - 7/25/2008 7:37:19 PM
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I've heard a fair amount of the speech (not all but a lot) and it seems to me that Barrack is running not for the Presidency of the United States but rather for the Presidency of the World!!
Well, isn't the POTUS often called "The Leader of The Free World?"
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RE: Obama's One World Speech - 7/26/2008 1:40:10 PM
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I may be an old Preacher, and my memory may be failing me but my wife definitely said she had the same memory, and that was of about three years ago when Obama was elected Senator and either he or his wife said he was muslim. Now, we hear he belongs to the Church of Christ.
Although I do hope there has been a conversion and a soul has been saved, I also pray that this is not the practice of a man who has conveniently "Found" Jesus Christ for the duration of this election. If I am mistaken about him being Muslim, I apologize, but I am almost positive I heard this.
Here's the Chicago Tribune on Obama's childhood.
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JAKARTA, Indonesia - When Barack Obama was a boy here, he studied for three years at a religious school and prayed four times a day.
It was a Roman Catholic school.
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Although Obama is Christian, July 2008 polls have shown that some Americans believe incorrectly that he is Muslim or was raised Muslim. In (the book he wrote) "The Audacity of Hope", Obama explains how, through working with black (Christian) churches as a community organizer while in his twenties, he came to understand "the power of the African-American religious tradition to spur social change." - Wikipedia
I didn't know about this (until now!) -
Christianity Today interview
Wow! Thanx! I wouldn't have heard about this without my researching your post. It's an incredible 3 page interview with Obama.
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I think it's really important for your readers to know that I have been a member of the same church for almost 20 years, and I have never practiced Islam. I am respectful of the religion, but it's not my own. One of the things that's very important in this day and age is that we don't use religion as a political tool and certainly that we don't lie about religion as a way to score political points. I just thought it was important to get that in there to dispel rumors that have been over the Internet. We've done so repeatedly, but obviously it's a political tactic of somebody to try to provide this misinformation.
You really need to read the whole interview.
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RE: Obama's One World Speech - 7/26/2008 3:13:20 PM
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The Church of Christ applauds the ordination of homosexuals and actively courts they membership. The community association -ACORN - of which Barry was a membership has routinely been involved in voter fraud. Barry solicted the endorsement of a known terrorist who proudly admits to setting bombs at the Pentegon and laments he didn't to more damage. Voted "present" on over 300 votes in the Ill Senate to avoid having to be put on record. Decised to run for president after only 140 days in the Senate. Sounds like great presidential material.
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RE: Obama's One World Speech - 7/26/2008 5:09:35 PM
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The community association -ACORN - of which Barry was a membership has routinely been involved in voter fraud.
ACORN, the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, is the nation's largest community organization of low- and moderate-income families, working together for social justice and stronger communities.
ACORN Vindicated
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Barry solicted the endorsement of a known terrorist who proudly admits to setting bombs at the Pentegon and laments he didn't to more damage
The Washington Post
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Bill Ayers - A former, unrepentant leader of the 1960s radical Weather Underground who is now an education professor in Illinois. Ayers, the piece says, gave $200 to Obama in 2001 and served on the board of an anti-poverty group with him for three years.
Obama spokesman Bill Burton noted in a statement that Ayers was a professor of education at the University of Illinois and a former aide to Mayor Richard M. Daley, and continued:
Senator Obama strongly condemns the violent actions of the Weathermen group, as he does all acts of violence. But he was an eight-year-old child when Ayers and the Weathermen were active, and any attempt to connect Obama with events of almost forty years ago is ridiculous.
I'd say that's 2 Strikes (3 and you're out)
My pitching arm's tired, I'll give you a pass. 
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RE: Obama's One World Speech - 7/26/2008 6:39:13 PM
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I wanted to address Taopoohbear's e mail, apparently something is now presented where Obama is asserting he is not Muslim. Thank you for the information, I do appreciate it. But I also remember the issues earlier with Obama's Pastor and some of the comments that Pastor had made that did not sit well with me.
Presidential Elections are always a difficult time for Christians. Although I have done some reading regarding Senator Obama, I am not yet convinced he can deliver all that he speaks of.
I do not know much about Catholic schools and their prayer practice schedules and I am relatively sure they do not pray organized prayers four times at school or a day. I know that Muslims pray four times a day.
The importance we all have to face right now is that we must research, read, and pray all that we can in order to make the right choice for President.
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RE: Obama's One World Speech - 7/26/2008 7:08:40 PM
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The community association -ACORN - of which Barry was a membership has routinely been involved in voter fraud.
ACORN, the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, is the nation's largest community organization of low- and moderate-income families, working together for social justice and stronger communities.
ACORN Vindicated
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Barry solicted the endorsement of a known terrorist who proudly admits to setting bombs at the Pentegon and laments he didn't to more damage
The Washington Post
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Bill Ayers - A former, unrepentant leader of the 1960s radical Weather Underground who is now an education professor in Illinois. Ayers, the piece says, gave $200 to Obama in 2001 and served on the board of an anti-poverty group with him for three years.
Obama spokesman Bill Burton noted in a statement that Ayers was a professor of education at the University of Illinois and a former aide to Mayor Richard M. Daley, and continued:
Senator Obama strongly condemns the violent actions of the Weathermen group, as he does all acts of violence. But he was an eight-year-old child when Ayers and the Weathermen were active, and any attempt to connect Obama with events of almost forty years ago is ridiculous.
I'd say that's 2 Strikes (3 and you're out)
My pitching arm's tired, I'll give you a pass.
There you go again. Confusing people with facts again. But you know they'll discredit your sources as being part of the left wing liberal media.
You know, this is really getting old.
If you don't like somebody, it dosen't matter why. Maybe you have "legitimate" reasons, maybe you don't. Maybe they did you wrong, maybe they didn't. Maybe you just get a weird vibration when they walk into the room. Maybe you don't like their name or the way they look. I'm not here to argue about that. Nobody, in my opinion, should be forced to like someone they don't want to like. On the other hand, one shouldn't feel compelled to spread lies and rumors just to try to justify their dislike for the person and to convince others to feel the same way.
I'm sure there are people in this world who don't like me, who don't like you, who don't like our friends and loved ones. That's fine. But you wouldn't want them spreading falsehoods and exaggerations about you, wouldn't you? There's this thing in the bible about bearing false witness. Even if you heard it from someone else, if it's false, it's false, and if you don't know for sure, why repeat it? Use the same standard on how you would want to be treated that you use on Obama. I believe some of you are more intelligent than the average blogger and really know these are falsehoods and rumors you're spreading just to make your case against Obama "juicier". It's getting old, people. Is this what you teach your kids? If you don't like someone, make up lies about them so others will hate them too?
I know that some of you are absolutely terrified of this man. Some of you look at him as the biggest threat to this country and possibly the world, in the history of mankind. You want to do everything in your power to see him defeated. But lying, and yes, what some of you are doing is a form of lying, is not the way to go. All this does is destroys your credibility and muffles your cries when you have legitimate issues of disagreement with him you wish to voice. We as Christians should be above all that.
- Julius
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RE: Obama's One World Speech - 7/26/2008 7:19:22 PM
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Slam dunk, Julius.
If people don't like Obama's politics, or do not support his candidacy, that's fine.
There's no law that says you have to, and enthusiastically vote for McCain, Nader, Barr or (worst of all) do not vote period.
I suppose I just don't understand the angry bile in the throats of some posters when they criticize Obama in a way that goes way beyond:
"I disagree with Obama's [FILL IN BLANK] policy, so I'm not voting for him this November."
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