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Leviticus - what is the revelance to present day - 9/11/2008 10:25:19 AM
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Fledgling
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Hi All, I am reading Leviticus now and I up to Lev 15... In Leviticus there are allot of instructions about procedures and different kinds of sacrifice offerings. Why were there such complicated procedures? I am confused as to what I should be understanding from reading this... Also about the Tabernacle... is this important because certain things about it are used to prophecy the future.. Please shed some light on this. Thanks very much :-) Below is from Leviticus 14. Lev 14:4 Then shall the priest command to take for him that is to be cleansed two birds alive and clean, and cedar wood, and scarlet, and hyssop: Lev 14:5 And the priest shall command that one of the birds be killed in an earthen vessel over running water: Lev 14:6 As for the living bird, he shall take it, and the cedar wood, and the scarlet, and the hyssop, and shall dip them and the living bird in the blood of the bird that was killed over the running water: Lev 14:7 And he shall sprinkle upon him that is to be cleansed from the leprosy seven times, and shall pronounce him clean, and shall let the living bird loose into the open field. Lev 14:8 And he that is to be cleansed shall wash his clothes, and shave off all his hair, and wash himself in water, that he may be clean: and after that he shall come into the camp, and shall tarry abroad out of his tent seven days. Lev 14:9 But it shall be on the seventh day, that he shall shave all his hair off his head and his beard and his eyebrows, even all his hair he shall shave off: and he shall wash his clothes, also he shall wash his flesh in water, and he shall be clean. Lev 14:10 And on the eighth day he shall take two he lambs without blemish, and one ewe lamb of the first year without blemish, and three tenth deals of fine flour for a meat offering, mingled with oil, and one log of oil. Lev 14:11 And the priest that maketh him clean shall present the man that is to be made clean, and those things, before the LORD, at the door of the tabernacle of the congregation: Lev 14:12 And the priest shall take one he lamb, and offer him for a trespass offering, and the log of oil, and wave them for a wave offering before the LORD: Lev 14:13 And he shall slay the lamb in the place where he shall kill the sin offering and the burnt offering, in the holy place: for as the sin offering is the priest's, so is the trespass offering: it is most holy: Lev 14:14 And the priest shall take some of the blood of the trespass offering, and the priest shall put it upon the tip of the right ear of him that is to be cleansed, and upon the thumb of his right hand, and upon the great toe of his right foot: Lev 14:15 And the priest shall take some of the log of oil, and pour it into the palm of his own left hand: Lev 14:16 And the priest shall dip his right finger in the oil that is in his left hand, and shall sprinkle of the oil with his finger seven times before the LORD: Lev 14:17 And of the rest of the oil that is in his hand shall the priest put upon the tip of the right ear of him that is to be cleansed, and upon the thumb of his right hand, and upon the great toe of his right foot, upon the blood of the trespass offering: Lev 14:18 And the remnant of the oil that is in the priest's hand he shall pour upon the head of him that is to be cleansed: and the priest shall make an atonement for him before the LORD. Lev 14:19 And the priest shall offer the sin offering, and make an atonement for him that is to be cleansed from his uncleanness; and afterward he shall kill the burnt offering: Lev 14:20 And the priest shall offer the burnt offering and the meat offering upon the altar: and the priest shall make an atonement for him, and he shall be clean. Lev 14:21 And if he be poor, and cannot get so much; then he shall take one lamb for a trespass offering to be waved, to make an atonement for him, and one tenth deal of fine flour mingled with oil for a meat offering, and a log of oil; Lev 14:22 And two turtledoves, or two young pigeons, such as he is able to get; and the one shall be a sin offering, and the other a burnt offering. Lev 14:23 And he shall bring them on the eighth day for his cleansing unto the priest, unto the door of the tabernacle of the congregation, before the LORD. Lev 14:24 And the priest shall take the lamb of the trespass offering, and the log of oil, and the priest shall wave them for a wave offering before the LORD: Lev 14:25 And he shall kill the lamb of the trespass offering, and the priest shall take some of the blood of the trespass offering, and put it upon the tip of the right ear of him that is to be cleansed, and upon the thumb of his right hand, and upon the great toe of his right foot: Lev 14:26 And the priest shall pour of the oil into the palm of his own left hand: Lev 14:27 And the priest shall sprinkle with his right finger some of the oil that is in his left hand seven times before the LORD: Lev 14:28 And the priest shall put of the oil that is in his hand upon the tip of the right ear of him that is to be cleansed, and upon the thumb of his right hand, and upon the great toe of his right foot, upon the place of the blood of the trespass offering: Lev 14:29 And the rest of the oil that is in the priest's hand he shall put upon the head of him that is to be cleansed, to make an atonement for him before the LORD. Lev 14:30 And he shall offer the one of the turtledoves, or of the young pigeons, such as he can get; Lev 14:31 Even such as he is able to get, the one for a sin offering, and the other for a burnt offering, with the meat offering: and the priest shall make an atonement for him that is to be cleansed before the LORD. Lev 14:32 This is the law of him in whom is the plague of leprosy, whose hand is not able to get that which pertaineth to his cleansing.
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RE: Leviticus - what is the revelance to present day - 9/11/2008 11:38:12 AM
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I am confused as to what I should be understanding from reading this... I also am reading Leviticus (i'm up to chapter 21). I am by no means any kind of qualified biblical scholar.. I agree the sacrifices were quite detailed. For me personally as i read all the details people had to go through for sin offerings/sacrifices, it just made me even more profoundly grateful that Jesus, Our Perfect Lamb, was sacrificed just once for all of our sins. O how great and awesome is our GOD!
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RE: Leviticus - what is the revelance to present day - 9/11/2008 1:24:02 PM
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The very heart of Torah is found here...Leviticus 19... Love your neighbor. There is soo much goodies in this book. Dietary, impartialty in trying cases, honoring one's parents, adultery, idolatry and sexual relations instruction, for those of us who actually keep Sabbath and the Feast of Yahweh. This is book shows us the holiness of God as well as practical instruction. I'm just scratching the surface here.
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RE: Leviticus - what is the revelance to present day - 9/11/2008 1:35:17 PM
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The very heart of Torah is found here...Leviticus 19... Love your neighbor. There is soo much goodies in this book. Dietary, impartialty in trying cases, honor one's parents, adultery, idolatry and sexual relations instruction, for those of us who actually keep Sabbath and the Feast of Yahweh. This is book shows us the holiness of God as well as practical instruction. I'm just scratching the surface here. Wow I will read on.. I have not gotten that far.. I was getting a bit bogged down in all of the different types of offerings and procedures. I am glad that we no longer have to do all that! Thank you, Jesus! I was just wondering what I was supposed to understand from reading about all of the OT descriptions of offerings and procedures. I guess one thing is appreciation that we no longer have to do those things.
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RE: Leviticus - what is the revelance to present day - 9/11/2008 2:14:36 PM
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First of all, do you have a "Philip" with whom you can discuss these things face to face. This is why Adonai commands us to have convocations on the various Shabbot. Paul tells us to do so even more as we see "The Day" approaching. Many of the details of these passages can not be acted on in a practical manner at this time, since there is no Temple. However, it is important to be aware of these "complicated procedures", because they let us know what is necessary for the proper dedication of Yeshua's(Jesus) Temple. John tells us in The Revelation that the deciever will build a temple and many will be decieved, I believe, because they were not familiar with the Scriptures. That said, one is not protected if one chooses to reject anything related to these "complicated procedures" and/or spiritualizes them. This is what many of the rabbis in Yeshua's(Jesus) time did to Ha Torah and they missed seeing Ha Meshiach(The Messiah). Therefore, in my opinion, the safest way of dealing with this is to follow the directions of the Shema (Deut. 6) and continue to read and discuss these passages.
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RE: Leviticus - what is the revelance to present day - 9/11/2008 3:02:04 PM
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ORIGINAL: Fledgling quote:
The very heart of Torah is found here...Leviticus 19... Love your neighbor. There is soo much goodies in this book. Dietary, impartialty in trying cases, honor one's parents, adultery, idolatry and sexual relations instruction, for those of us who actually keep Sabbath and the Feast of Yahweh. This is book shows us the holiness of God as well as practical instruction. I'm just scratching the surface here. Wow I will read on.. I have not gotten that far.. I was getting a bit bogged down in all of the different types of offerings and procedures. I am glad that we no longer have to do all that! Thank you, Jesus! I was just wondering what I was supposed to understand from reading about all of the OT descriptions of offerings and procedures. I guess one thing is appreciation that we no longer have to do those things. What you are reading is interesting in the same sense as reading the previous Will of someone is. It gives you a good idea what they were doing in the past, and how things got to where they were when they made out their last Will and Testament. It's good background information. IOW, never loose sight of God's last Will and Testament (the New Covenant), for the last Will, is the only one in effect. Thanks God we, as Christians are not longer under the curse of the law. Thank You Jesus! Peace
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RE: Leviticus - what is the revelance to present day - 9/11/2008 3:59:09 PM
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RE: Leviticus - what is the revelance to present day - 9/11/2008 9:10:47 PM
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Fledgling - LBolt gave you some great pointers on why Leviticus is important to us today. The following can help as well, with regard to your question about the Tabernacle. The basic point being that most of the OT foreshadow's something about the person and work of Jesus Christ: Compare: Sin-offering (Lev 4; Lev 6:24-30; Isaiah 53:4-6) to Jesus as the Sacrificial Lamb (Jn 1:29) with the purpose of being the Ransom (payment in violating God's Law). Trespass-offering (Lev 5; Lev 6:1-7; Lev 7:1-7; Is 53:10) to Jesus as the Sacrificial Lamb (Mt 20:28) with the purpose of being the Expiation (restitution for damages). Burnt-offering (Lev 1; Lev 6:8-13) to Jesus as the Sacrificial Lamb (Eph 5:2) with the purpose of Dedication one's self to God (sweet savor) The shedding of blood (Lev 16:14-19) to Jesus as the Sacrificial Lamb (1Jn 2:2) with the purpose of Atonement. The scape goat (Lev 16:8-10; Is 53:7-9) to Jesus as the Sacrificial Lamb (1 Pet 2:24) with the purpose of Remission of sins. The Mercy Seat (Ex 25:17-22) to the Deity of Christ (1 Jn 2:2) for the purposes of Propitiation (satisfaction/Forgiveness). Cereal-offering (Lev 2; Lev 6:14-23) to Jesus as the Sacrificial Lamb, with the purpose of being Thankful and a Voluntary obedience (sweet savor) Peace-offering (Lev 3; Lev 7:11-21) to Jesus as the Sacrificial Lamb, with the purpose of Reconciliation/Communion with God (sweet savor) Feast of First Fruits (Pentecost - Lev 23:15-16) compared to Regeneration (1 Pe 1:23) The Lavar (Ex 30:17-21) to Jesus as the Logos (Jn 15:3) with the purpose of Imputed Righteousness (given by God to us, not earned by us). The water (Ge 15:6) to the Holy Spirit (Eph 5:26; James 1:23-24) with the purpose of Sanctification (Php 1:6 being confident of this very thing, that He who has begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ) The activities that occurred in the Israelite temple relate to the person and work of Jesus Christ as the Second Person of the Trinity - His work being His death and resurrection to accomplish your redemption, atonement, propitiation, imputation of righteousness, restoration of your relationship with God, Sanctification, and Salvation. Christ did not come to abolish the law, but rather to fulfill it, to fulfill all righteousness, and as He stated on the cross - "it is finished" - i.e., no more work by man or God must be done to redeem His people. And as the book of Hebrews states, the old Israelite Temple and sacrificial system is no longer required, thanks to the work of Jesus Christ. In addition, God is no longer inaccessible by the common individual, but is now accessible to everyone through Jesus Christ (Hebrews 9:3, Mt. 27:51, Hebrews 10:15-22). Where to go to learn more: Brown, William. The Tabernacle: Its Priests and Services. Updated edition. Peabody, MA.: Hendrickson Publishers, Inc. 1996; 2000. Eldersheim, Alfred. The Temple: Its Ministry and Services As They Were at the Time of Jesus Christ. Grand Rapids, MI.: Kregel Publications, 1874; 1997. Levy, David M. The Tabernacle: Shadows of the Messiah, Its Sacrifices, Services, and Priesthood. Grand Rapids, MI.: Kregel Publications,1993; 2003.
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RE: Leviticus - what is the revelance to present day - 9/11/2008 9:15:12 PM
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I am reading Leviticus now and I up to Lev 15... In Leviticus there are allot of instructions about procedures and different kinds of sacrifice offerings. Why were there such complicated procedures? I am confused as to what I should be understanding from reading this... There is tons of symbolism in everything that has to do with these sacrifices. Almost everything has symbolic significance. The procedures, the animals , tabernacle,the set up, the distances,materials,colors, everything.
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RE: Leviticus - what is the revelance to present day - 9/12/2008 12:55:23 PM
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One of the most surprising things I've ever heard about Leviticus is this: when Rob Bell was sent out to plant a new church, specifically to reach the unchurched, for the first three years, every sermon he gave was based on Leviticus! And, as you probably know, that church really took off. You can read about it in his terrific book "Velvet Elvis." Here's Bell's take on Leviticus: to him, the real underlying point of the book is how we live our physical life is totally interwoven with our spiritual life. They can't be divorced. As we grow spiritually, it will show up in our physical life. Inner purity will lead to more pure physical habits and behaviors.
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RE: Leviticus - what is the revelance to present day - 9/12/2008 1:03:43 PM
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restinginHim
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Again, as one who truly needs to learn alot more in regards to the history and law, i feel Leviticus also speaks to me about the holiness of our LORD. I believe that in the bible the word "holy" appears most often in the book of Leviticus.
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