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ORIGINAL: solomonsprayer

Is the United States potentially Mystery Babylon - the second Babylon in the Bible, during the end times that gets destroyed. ...If I am not mistaken, it is described as a dominant world power that is a fallen Christian nation (a Christian nation at one time, but one that has been corrupted), one based heavily on commerce/trade (such as capitalism), with people of a multitude of languages and backgrounds (we have those in the U.S. now in the form of racial minorities), surrounded by waters (we have oceans on three sides of our country), and one that is proud....

I knowsome have argued it was Rome, because of the same qualities and also because of the description of it sitting on seven hills, but there is also argument it has not yet happend and Mystery Babylon remains to be seen and destroyed. Is the U.S. a possibility?

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Good grief...

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Bob, you've done it again..

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If I am not mistaken, it is described as a dominant world power that is a fallen Christian nation (a Christian nation at one time, but one that has been corrupted),

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one based heavily on commerce/trade (such as capitalism),

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with people of a multitude of languages and backgrounds (we have those in the U.S. now in the form of racial minorities)

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surrounded by waters (we have oceans on three sides of our country),

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and one that is proud....

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Is the U.S. a possibility?

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We control the ANCIENT city of Babylon.

It's Basra in Iraq.

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ORIGINAL: WesP

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We control the ANCIENT city of Babylon.

It's Basra in Iraq.

Only for a moment. Remember, Obama is going to immediately get us out of that huge mistake.

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ORIGINAL: useddelorian

I think that God, and consequently the Word of God, is bigger than any of us can comprehend fully in an infinite time-line. I'm also of the opinion that you can more or less take the Bible at a literal meaning unless it implies otherwise by mentioning something other than a literal meaning is implied. Example: The Gospels mentioning that Jesus was speaking in metaphor/parable on certain occasions.

Can anyone show me a specific instance in the Bible that implies that you should think of "Babylon" spiritually/figuratively rather than literally? The trouble with assuming things can be summed up in a spiritual way is that you have no bearing on where to stop. Was Jesus' atoning death on the cross and resurrection just a spiritual or figurative atonement and death? Were God's promises to Israel figurative or spiritual, and was Israel a spiritual Israel? To a long-time believer questions like these may sound asinine and over-worked, but these are very real concerns to anyone who looks at this from a logical point-of-view.

I'm a relatively new Christian, and questions like these trouble me. It seems so easy to be led off of the "straight and narrow path" by all the doctrines and views you can find in popular culture. I think we should just let the Bible say what it has to say. Am I wrong here?

In Christ,

Jeremy

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Original: vew

In the symbolism of Revelation, Babylon the Great is referred to as a "great city", a "kingdom" that rules other kings. (Rev. 17:18) Like a city, it would have many organizations within it; an dlike a kingdom that includes other kings in its domain, it would be international in scope. It is described as having relations with political rulers and contributing much to the wealth of men in commerce, while itself being a third element" and a persecutor of "prophets and of holy ones." Rev. 18:2; 9-17, 24.
ancient Babylon was outstandingly noted for its religion and its defiance of God. Gen. 10:8-10; Dan. 5:22, 23: An ancient cuneiform inscription reads: "Altogether there are in Bablyon 53 temples of the chief gods, 55 chapels of Marduk, 300 chapels fo rthe earthly deities, 600 for the heavenly deities, 180 altars fot he goddess Ishtar, 180 for the gods Nergal and Adad and 12 other altars for different gods." Quoted from The Bible as History (New York, 1964), W. Keller, p.301
The Encyclopedia Amricana comments: "Sumerian civilizaion (which was part of Babylonia) was dominated by priests; at the head of the state was the lugal (literally "great man"), the representative of the gods." (1977), Vol. 3, p.9.
Reasonably, therefore, Babylon the Great as referred to in Revelation is religious. Being like a city and an empire,, it is not limited to one religious group but includes all religions that are in opposition to the true God.
Ancient Babylonian religious concepts and practices are found in religions worldwide. Egypt, Persia, and Greece felt the influence of the Babylonian religion...The strong admixture of Semitic elements both in early Greek mythology and in Grecian cults is now so generally admitted by scholars as to require no further comment. These Semitic element are to a large extent more specifically Bablyonian.l"---THE RELIGION OF bABYLONIA AND ASSYRIA (Boston, 1898, M. Jastrow, Jr., PP. 699,700.
Their gods: There were triads of gods. (Babylonian and Assyrian Religion, Norman, Okla.; 1963, W.H. Hooke, pp.14-40) "The Platonic trinity, itself merely a rearrangement of older trinities dating back to earlier peoples, appears to be the rational philosophic trinity of attributes that gave birth to the three hypostases of divine persoons taught by the Christian Churches....This Greek philosopher''s(Plato's) conception of the divine trinity ...can be found in all the ancient (pagan ) religions." Nouveau Dictionnaire Universel (Paris, 1865-1970), edited y M. Lachatre, vol. 2, p.1467.
Use of Images.
Belief regarding the death. Immortality of the soul copied not from the early Christians but from ancient pagan Babylonish religions. THE RELIGION OF BABYLONIA AND aSSYRIA, P. 556.
Babylon the Great is like an immoral harlot, one living in shameless luxery." Rev. 17:1-5; Rev 18:7.
Is it not true that the dominant religious organizations have made it a practice to consort with political rulers for power and material gain, though this has resulted in suffering for the common people? Is it not also true that their higher clergy live in luxury, even though many of the people to whom they should minister may be impoverished?
Why can religions that profess to be Chriatian properly be viewed as a part of Babylon the Great, along with those who know nothing of the God of the Bible?
James 4:4: "Adulteresses, do you not know that the friendship with the world is enmity with God? Whoever, therefore, wants to be a friens=d of the world is constituting himself an enemy of God." (So, though they know what the Bible says about God, they make themselves his enemies if they choose friendship withthe world by imitating its ways.)
2 Cor. 4:4; 11:14,15: "The god of this system of things has blinded the inds of the unbelievers,, that the illumination of the glorious good news about the Christ, who id the image of God, might not shine thrrough." Satan himself keeps transforming himself into an angel of light. It is therefore nothing great if his ministers also keep transforming themselves into ministers of righteousness. But their end shall be according tho theri works."
Matthew.7:21-23 (read)
Thus the urgent message to get out of her "If you don not want to share in her sins and receive part of her plagues." VEW

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ORIGINAL: tracydolls

Yes. America sits as Queen of the Babylonion System.