Interracial Marriage - Will you consider marrying someone not of your own race?
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Interracial Marriage - Will you consider marrying someone not of your own race?
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| NO, I will only marry someone of my own race. |
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| YES, I will NOT marry someone of my own race. |
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| YES, I have preference over people NOT of my own race. |
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| YES, I have still preference over people of my own race. |
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| YES, I have specific racial preference. |
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| YES, I have NO specific racial preference. |
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Interracial Marriage - Will you consider marrying someo... - 8/31/2008 4:47:34 PM
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Rivermoon
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Just an interesting poll. :-) It allows multiple selection, so the vote may overlap in certain aspect. :-P
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RE: Interracial Marriage - Will you consider marrying s... - 8/31/2008 5:13:03 PM
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Just as long as this doesn't become a politically correct spitting match, this could be an interesting discussion.
I have told my kid to marry whomever God wills. That's the broad brushstroke.
A couple of finer points are these: marriage is easier I think, the more alike the two people of a couple are. So interracial probably means intercultural as well. Different. And people in the other culture might not be as tolerant of you as you are of them. Also, your kids will be biracial, and may have to take a lot of abuse and feeling that they fit in nowhere all their lives. That's a burden you might not want to put on them.
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RE: Interracial Marriage - Will you consider marrying s... - 8/31/2008 5:40:31 PM
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Deermousie,
About the "children," while you think they might take abuse, any child can take abuse, it's not only those who are bi-raical.
And biracial children like Tiger Woods, Mariah Carey, Derek Jeter, and even Barack Obama are living successful and productive lives, thank you....
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RE: Interracial Marriage - Will you consider marrying s... - 8/31/2008 8:44:32 PM
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gaylel1
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God does not care about skin color. It is not in his agenda. But we Christians make it a big, big thing.
The secular world has a corner of accepting interracial relationships, but unfortnatly, the christian community and every thread that appear on CW makes it a concern and why?
This should not be a big deal because the world is multi cultrual, but we as Christians need to grow up..
That's my two cents..
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RE: Interracial Marriage - Will you consider marrying s... - 8/31/2008 11:36:33 PM
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makarizo
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your kids will be biracial, and may have to take a lot of abuse
following this train of thought......... a black couple in some southern city probably shouldn't have any children simply because they might be abused.
in fact. should probably migrate to some area where there is only "their own skin color" just to avoid a chance at abuse??? because we all know there might be some abuse?????
is that the way you feel deermousie?
only asking because I thoroughly do not understand what you are saying.
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RE: Interracial Marriage - Will you consider marrying s... - 9/1/2008 1:14:51 AM
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rgod
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ORIGINAL: gaylel1
God does not care about skin color. It is not in his agenda. But we Christians make it a big, big thing.
The secular world has a corner of accepting interracial relationships, but unfortnatly, the christian community and every thread that appear on CW makes it a concern and why?
This should not be a big deal because the world is multi cultrual, but we as Christians need to grow up..
That's my two cents..
I totally agree with this! It is interesting that this type of thread gets started every month or two. I do agree that the secular world is much more accepting of differences in general. I've never quite understood exactly why so many Christians have a problem with this, since the clear division in the bible is nationality and also the division between jews and gentiles - not races of people who live in the same country (race is a concept that didn't exist back then anyway). I think a lot of it is because in the past some churches taught doctrine that wasn't true to the bible, but instead was a means to exercise social control - not really that much unlike what a lot of afrikaaner churches did during the time of apartheid. I'm sure there are other churches in the world who have done the same thing in many other countries as well. So the theology is flawed at the base, gets inside of people, and they pass it down from generation to generation. I think it is a difficult thing to excise - because to do so, for many people, means going against their culture. I mean - even look at Peter in the bible - he wouldn't eat with the gentiles when his jewish brother's came around - and Paul had to call him on it "to his face" one version of the bible says. To be friends with, date, or marry someone interracially means that you might be treated as a "____FILL IN THE BLANK ____ - lover" or that now you and your children are going to get the same type of treatment that the other group gets. And people worry about that.
But you know ... I don't think it is such a bad thing because this is the way that people change, that societies change. I was watching a portion of a show tonight - Chuck and Larry - and it was about two straight guys who were pretending to be gay. The whole thing was embracing homosexuality, which I don't agree with - and I felt on some level that it was somewhat maniuplative. However, what was interesting about the part I saw was that the characters changed their views of gay people because they were subjected to the same treatment that gays get in society. And regardless of how you feel about homosexuality - none of us would want to be treated the way they are - or to have our children treated the way that they are. So, I think it is good for people to understand what it means to be treated harshly, as less than human, to know what others feel - because only when there is empathy, can there be change. I know a lady who is married to a man who is a minority. Her bosses loved her until she brought in a picture of her family. Then they started treating her the way that they treated the other minorities in that particular company (limited opportunities, no room for advancement etc.) - and she found out that it was because of her marriage. She ended up leaving the company and got a much better job. (Actually a lot of minorities left). She is not a prejudiced person. But she would talk to me about how frustrated she was that this was happening to her, and I tell that this was the first time that she really understood the enormity of it and the injustice of it. She was experiencing this first hand from people who were formerly her friends. Until you go through it yourself, on some level you think that others are exagerrating. Yet, even the hard things are good - because it encourages growth.
Here's an analogy. I remember spending some time in a poor village with no electricity and running water. I was there long enough to get to know people - really know them. Now, when I look at pictures of people who live in those circumstances, I don't see them the same way. I no longer automatically feel sorry for them or wonder why their clothes might have holes in it. Instead, I wonder - who is that person? I wonder what their hopes or aspirations are? Who is their family? I don't see them as cardboard cutouts - I see them as people. And I think this happens whenever we step into one another's shoes - we have a fuller sense of who they are. And that is a good thing. The bottom line is that we have to do what the Bible says - to not estimate one another from a purely human point of view. And that is what this is - looking at each other as "x" color or "y" color - and choosing to limit our associations with the person because of that ... it isn't the Lord's way.
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RE: Interracial Marriage - Will you consider marrying s... - 9/1/2008 4:15:43 AM
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I went to a wedding this weekend. Both are Christians. The man was French. The woman was Japanese. Are they culturally different? Yes. But they have gone beyond the differences. And the have come together
I am Filipino, Spainsh, German, English, Irish and Scottish. My parent have made it work. and they will be married 40 years in December. They have gone beyond and have come together.
I have not felt an burdens of race or culture. I guess living in Hawaii gives you a different perspective we have a word...
In the Hawaiian language, hapa is defined as: portion, fragment, part, fraction, installment; to be partial, less. It is a loan from the English word half. However, in Hawaiian Pidgin (the creole spoken by many Hawai'i residents), hapa has an extended meaning of "half-caste" or "of mixed descent". Mary Pukui & Samuel Ebert's Hawaiian Dictionary define hapa as: "of mixed blood, person of mixed blood as in hapa hawai'i, part Hawaiian." [See: Pukui, Mary Kawena, and Samuel H. Ebert, Hawaiian Dictionary, Revised and enlarged edition, University of Hawaii Press, Honolulu HI, 1986] The word "hapa" has moved into Hawaiian and mainland English via reborrowing.
Used without qualification, hapa is often taken to mean "part white", and is short hand for hapa haole. The term can be used in conjunction with other Hawaiian racial and ethnic descriptors to specify a particular racial or ethnic mixture. Examples of this include:
* hapa haole (part Caucasian/white)
* hapa kanaka (part Hawaiian)
* hapa popolo (part African/black)
* hapa kepani (part Japanese); the term hapanese is also encountered
* hapa pilipino (part Filipino)
* hapa pake (part Chinese)
* hapa kolea (part Korean)
* hapa kamoa (part Samoan)
* hapa sepania (part Spanish)
* hapa pukiki (part Portuguese)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hapa
As for me I don't really have much choice in the matter almost any relationship I have will be Intrerracial. I will go beyond and come together.
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RE: Interracial Marriage - Will you consider marrying s... - 9/1/2008 8:18:39 AM
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Deermousie,
About the "children," while you think they might take abuse, any child can take abuse, it's not only those who are bi-raical.
And biracial children like Tiger Woods, Mariah Carey, Derek Jeter, and even Barack Obama are living successful and productive lives, thank you....
That's a good point. Thought they may face discrimination and prejudice from racists in society, it would be better imo to have loving parents (if from interracial Christian relationship) than unloving or abusive parents (from a mono-racial relationship)....
It's kind of like those who say single parenting is bad. Well, true, it's not ideal, but it's better to have a child live with one good and responsible parent, than to live in a household with two parents where there is fighting and abuse (like an abusive, violent husaband/father). Studies have shown this. It's not kids from single parent homes that suffer per se. It's kids from crazy parent homes - be it single-parent and dual.
Likewise, it's not whether your child is monoracial or interracial...but what you teach them about Christ and self-esteem. That will enable them to endure anything they face in this world with the ease and peace of God. ....A great look attractive and likeable kids could easily be in worse shape if the parent is not Christ-centered and teaching them wrong things (like greedy love of sex or money, etc.).....
I don't see it as a problematic issue with kids having to endure societal dislike if the parents are strong and loving people. It's how you raise the child. Better for the child to come from interracial family of strong loving Christians than a dysfunctional family of mono-racial non-Christians.....
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RE: Interracial Marriage - Will you consider marrying s... - 9/1/2008 10:56:28 AM
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And I'm not biracial! 
And quite honestly, I hope I am raising kids who can rise above that kind of garbage and prove it all wrong.
