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If McCain Wins... - 10/23/2008 3:04:32 PM
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tafkam
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Right now it's pretty much looking like Barack Hussein Obama will be the 44th President of the United States.
But I'm wondering.....what if McCain does pull this thing out in the 11th hour? What if we wake up on Nov 5th and our TV screens are all bellowing "President Elect John Sidney McCain"? What will be the most satisfying part of that result for you?
Personally, mine will be watching the liberal media (and the left in general) come completely unglued, what with all the accusations of "voter fraud", as well as trotting out that tired warhorse of a slogan "he stole the election!", since we all know that in the mind of the left, the only legitimate result is an Obama victory.
Hey, we can still dream, and it could still happen. I'm not holding my breath, but it could still happen... 
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RE: If McCain Wins... - 10/23/2008 3:17:21 PM
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But I'm wondering.....what if McCain does pull this thing out in the 11th hour? What if we wake up on Nov 5th and our TV screens are all bellowing "President Elect John Sidney McCain"? What will be the most satisfying part of that result for you?
That all of my heartfelt prayers have been answered (along with the prayers of many others!) YEA!! Then we will need to continue to pray that we will come back to God as a nation because we aren't there.
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RE: If McCain Wins... - 10/23/2008 3:32:18 PM
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I agree, there will be a certain pleasure in watching those who have all their hopes and dreams tied up in this "secular messiah" lose their hope. Maybe some of them will be drawn to the Lord and find hope that never fades. Change that one can truly believe in.
Have you thought about how much Obama's slogans sound like the gospel message? It will be a blessing from God if McCain wins. It will harden some and melt others. The hard left will be enraged some may turn to the true Messiah though.
The same sun that melts the wax hardens the clay.
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RE: If McCain Wins... - 10/23/2008 4:26:10 PM
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But I'm wondering.....what if McCain does pull this thing out in the 11th hour? What if we wake up on Nov 5th and our TV screens are all bellowing "President Elect John Sidney McCain"? What will be the most satisfying part of that result for you?
Total jubilation that Dubya is gone. The absolute thrill of knowing that all we have to do is survive the last 75 days of the worst administration since Carter or Hoover.
I'll do the same if Obama is elected though I'm not convinced that I'll be quite as jubilant. ; )
This is an outstanding column by Karl Rove you might like Tafkam.
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In the campaign's final two weeks, voters will take a last serious look at both presidential candidates. The outcome of the race isn't cast in stone yet.
Barack Obama holds a 7.3% lead in the Real Clear Politics average of all polls, but the latest Gallup tracking poll reveals that there are nearly twice as many undecided voters this year than there were in the last presidential election. The Investor's Business Daily/TIPP poll (which was closest to the mark in predicting the 2004 outcome -- 0.4% off the actual result) now says this is a three-point race.
This week also brought a reminder that Sen. Obama hasn't closed the sale. The Washington Post/ABC poll found 45% of voters still don't think he's qualified to be president, about the same number who doubted his qualifications in March.
http://online.wsj.com/public/search/page/3_0466.html?KEYWORDS=karl%20rove&mod=DNH_S
I'm not convinced it's over for McCain either.
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RE: If McCain Wins... - 10/23/2008 5:08:14 PM
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What will be the most satisfying part of that result for you?
There will be no satisfaction. Only the hope that he reverts back to the person he was in the Senate and works WITH the Democrats to try and correct problems, rather than the second-coming of George W. Bush who will continue the nation's downward trend into oblivion by putting his party and special interests first.
For the record, I won't have any satisfaction over Obama being elected President, either. Only the hope that his intellegence and persuasiveness will enable him to get some of the good ideas passed that he's proposed, At the same time, I want to see him being willing to listen to the Republicans when they provide potential answers of their own to our nation's problems, rather than showing a Clinton-esque side of bulldozering anyone who tries to get in his way.
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RE: If McCain Wins... - 10/23/2008 5:12:03 PM
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TorchHeart
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Have you thought about how much Obama's slogans sound like the gospel message? It will be a blessing from God if McCain wins. It will harden some and melt others. The hard left will be enraged some may turn to the true Messiah though.
The exact same thing can be said for if Obama wins. The hard right will be enraged, but some of them may also turn to the true Messiah, as well.
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RE: If McCain Wins... - 10/23/2008 5:20:10 PM
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Knowing that I still have peace even though the best man for the job didn't win. Knowing that Christ is still on the throne even though Palin is vp.
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RE: If McCain Wins... - 10/23/2008 5:28:45 PM
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What will be the most satisfying part of that result for you?
Being able to say "See, told ya' I wasn't killing America" to all the people who are convinced a vote for Barr is a vote for Obama.
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RE: If McCain Wins... - 10/23/2008 5:52:09 PM
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ORIGINAL: tafkam
Right now it's pretty much looking like Barack Hussein Obama will be the 44th President of the United States.
But I'm wondering.....what if McCain does pull this thing out in the 11th hour? What if we wake up on Nov 5th and our TV screens are all bellowing "President Elect John Sidney McCain"? What will be the most satisfying part of that result for you?
Personally, mine will be watching the liberal media (and the left in general) come completely unglued, what with all the accusations of "voter fraud", as well as trotting out that tired warhorse of a slogan "he stole the election!", since we all know that in the mind of the left, the only legitimate result is an Obama victory.
Hey, we can still dream, and it could still happen. I'm not holding my breath, but it could still happen...
McCain isn't going to win, but if he did I will make sure we are prepared in case there are riots in the streets.
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RE: If McCain Wins... - 10/23/2008 5:58:48 PM
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What will be the most satisfying part of that result for you?
There will be no satisfaction. Only the hope that he reverts back to the person he was in the Senate and works WITH the Democrats to try and correct problems, rather than the second-coming of George W. Bush who will continue the nation's downward trend into oblivion by putting his party and special interests first.
For the record, I won't have any satisfaction over Obama being elected President, either. Only the hope that his intellegence and persuasiveness will enable him to get some of the good ideas passed that he's proposed, At the same time, I want to see him being willing to listen to the Republicans when they provide potential answers of their own to our nation's problems, rather than showing a Clinton-esque side of bulldozering anyone who tries to get in his way.
The black messiah has successfully convinced others that McCain is Bush. he has spoken, and so shall it be.
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RE: If McCain Wins... - 10/23/2008 6:07:54 PM
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I'll call & see if the local liberal publisher is still alive or has died from a heart attack.
The only poll that will be accurate is the voting poll on the eve of the election.
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RE: If McCain Wins... - 10/23/2008 9:59:41 PM
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walking onto campus and watching all the open minded, loving, tolarent students and proffessors start the McCain Bashing and wathcing them try to explain how their messiah lost.
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RE: If McCain Wins... - 10/23/2008 10:26:24 PM
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I am as liberal as they come, and just for the record, I don't see Obama as a messiah, nor do any of my liberal friends that I personally know.
The whole messiah label was bestowed on Obama by the right as a way of mocking him, I certainly have never used that label myself.
He's definitely the most charismatic politician democrats have produced since Clinton (although that doesn't say much after the walking corpses that were Gore and Kerry), but acknowledging that isn't tantamount to worship. Nor is voting for him, or even getting excited about his candidacy. Democrats have been down for so long that I think we need someone to get excited about. And I think Republicans betrayed this same need in the days after Palin's announcement was met with ecstatic praise and adoration.
But at the end of the day Obama is just a man. He'll either rise to greatness, fail utterly, or, much more likely, put in a solid to mediocre performance as president.
So it's really tedious to have to continuously defend oneself from childish taunts of "Obamessiah disciple."
Grow up!
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RE: If McCain Wins... - 10/23/2008 10:51:35 PM
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Rockwall
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I am as liberal as they come, and just for the record, I don't see Obama as a messiah, nor do any of my liberal friends that I personally know.
The whole messiah label was bestowed on Obama by the right as a way of mocking him, I certainly have never used that label myself.
He's definitely the most charismatic politician democrats have produced since Clinton (although that doesn't say much after the walking corpses that were Gore and Kerry), but acknowledging that isn't tantamount to worship. Nor is voting for him, or even getting excited about his candidacy. Democrats have been down for so long that I think we need someone to get excited about. And I think Republicans betrayed this same need in the days after Palin's announcement was met with ecstatic praise and adoration.
But at the end of the day Obama is just a man. He'll either rise to greatness, fail utterly, or, much more likely, put in a solid to mediocre performance as president.
So it's really tedious to have to continuously defend oneself from childish taunts of "Obamessiah disciple."
Grow up!
Nothing personal, but you can thank the messiah himself and the Obamabots for that term. For the first year of his campain, nobody could tell you what Barack stood for, except for "change and hope". What EXACTLY did that mean? Nobody knew and nobody cared: Barack video LINK
Even his supporters on a local Christian radio station couldn't tell you SPECIFICALLY why they liked Barack.
As for names, the latest name I heard (forget who to give credit to) is "Obamaphilia".
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RE: If McCain Wins... - 10/23/2008 10:52:34 PM
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Who called anyone a "Obamessiah disciple?" Me thinks thou doest protest too much!
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RE: If McCain Wins... - 10/23/2008 11:27:51 PM
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Who called anyone a "Obamessiah disciple?" Me thinks thou doest protest too much!
Thou should'st checketh post 4!
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RE: If McCain Wins... - 10/24/2008 12:19:32 AM
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Mesiah? No, I serve Jesus and Jesus alone. There are lots of things that build my courage in my walk with the Lord and inspire me to move closer to Jesus. However, affiliation with the Republican political party isn't a mark of holiness for me. Actually, affiliation with any political party. ROFL! I'm convinced one would have to live under a rock and be totally unaware of what's going on in the rest of the world to truly believe such a thing. I can't imagine being a professing Christian and actually walking around feeling that way. Creepy.
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RE: If McCain Wins... - 10/24/2008 12:23:49 AM
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Mesiah? No, I serve Jesus and Jesus alone. There are lots of things that build my courage in my walk with the Lord and inspire me to move closer to Jesus. However, affiliation with the Republican political party isn't a mark of holiness for me. Actually, affiliation with any political party. ROFL! I'm convinced one would have to live under a rock and be totally unaware of what's going on in the rest of the world to truly believe such a thing. I can't imagine being a professing Christian and actually walking around feeling that way. Creepy.
I agree with you!
If McCain wins, I will just pray that that he can help get the United States back on track. I also hope that he will revise his health care plan. Although I don't like some some of his ways I'm not opposed to McCain being President.
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RE: If McCain Wins... - 10/24/2008 8:09:00 AM
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Total jubilation that Dubya is gone.
I cannot understand this. I am no W fan, but they guy is NOT that bad. Heck, he is more liberal than ANY republican president...why do the liberals hate him so much?
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He's definitely the most charismatic politician
I don't see it....and Clinton? How was he charismatic? He barely won the two elections he won....one wasn't even a majority.
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Democrats have been down for so long
Counting Ford, my memory tells me since JFK, there have been 4 democrats in the white house and 5 republicans...and most of those years the democrats had control in congress....I don't think they are "down".
If McCain wins...
it will put another fork in the conservative movement in the republican party.
it is very possible there will be riots fueled by irresponsible media and democrats crying foul and blaming racism and elitism..mark...my...words.
McCain, like Obama, will be a one term president.
Nothing will be done on abortion.
Government will get bigger.
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RE: If McCain Wins... - 10/24/2008 8:31:54 AM
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I am as liberal as they come, and just for the record, I don't see Obama as a messiah, nor do any of my liberal friends that I personally know.
The whole messiah label was bestowed on Obama by the right as a way of mocking him, I certainly have never used that label myself.
Well, you may not consider him as such, but this did not necessarily come from the right. The first I heard of it was when Louis Farrakhan (hardly representative of "the right" in this country) called him a messiah. And fed by comments by the media and other famous people.
"You are the instruments that God is gonna use to bring about universal change, and that is why Barack has captured the youth. And he has involved young people in a political process that they didn't care anything about. That's a sign. When the Messiah speaks, the youth will hear, and the Messiah is absolutely speaking."
-- Louis Farrakhan
"This is bigger than Kennedy. . . . This is the New Testament."
"I felt this thrill going up my leg. I mean, I don't have that too often. No, seriously. It's a dramatic event."
-- Chris Matthews
"We're here to evolve to a higher plane . . . he is an evolved leader . . . [he] has an ear for eloquence and a Tongue dipped in the Unvarnished Truth."
-- Oprah Winfrey
You'll have to measure time by `Before Obama' and `After Obama,'"
"Everything's going to be affected by this seismic change in the universe."
-- Spike Lee
Many spiritually advanced people I know (not coweringly religious, mind you, but deeply spiritual) identify Obama as a Lightworker, that rare kind of attuned being who has the ability to lead us not merely to new foreign policies or health care plans or whatnot, but who can actually help usher in a new way of being on the planet, of relating and connecting and engaging with this bizarre earthly experiment. These kinds of people actually help us evolve.
--Mark Mortford ("Is Obama an enlightened being?" San Francisco Chronicle June 6, 2008).
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After 2 terms of Dubya(who was the obvious heir apparent on November 4th 1996 which first made me dubious anyway) and McCain I don't believe this party wants to be conservative. I think it only cares about expanding government, expanding programs and keeping their power. Which is the same thing the other side of the aisle does. 