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CONFESSION OF SIN? - 9/2/2008 11:20:21 PM
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rmoore1925
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If all of our sins have been forgiven, why is confession of sin necessary?
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RE: CONFESSION OF SIN? - 9/2/2008 11:45:45 PM
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i think it might have something to do with surrender or submission...a humbling of the soul
truly admitting you've sinned or fallen short of G-d's holiness is a difficult thing, actually
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RE: CONFESSION OF SIN? - 9/3/2008 8:04:29 AM
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RE: CONFESSION OF SIN? - 9/3/2008 8:19:59 AM
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Confession is necessary because it puts us on the same page as God.
We did X. X is sinful. (Thus agreeing with God's view of X)
Then we repent and turn away from X to God's will and receive our forgiveness.
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RE: CONFESSION OF SIN? - 9/3/2008 9:00:39 AM
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If all of our sins have been forgiven, why is confession of sin necessary?
Because we are instructed to in the Word of God;
(1Jn 1:9) If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
It is God's sandbox, and if we want to have our sins forgiven we must play by Gos's rules.
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RE: CONFESSION OF SIN? - 9/3/2008 2:41:45 PM
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URForgiven
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ORIGINAL: rmoore1925
If all of our sins have been forgiven, why is confession of sin necessary?
Good question rmoore. Christians do not get forgiven, Christians are forgiven. It is through Christ's shed blood on the cross that we have forgiveness...
Ephesians 1:7
"In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, in accordance with the riches of God's grace"
Colossians 1:14
"in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins."
Hebrews 9:22
"In fact, the law requires that nearly everything be cleansed with blood, and without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness."
We, as forgiven saints, do not confess to get forgiveness, we are forgiven. Forgiveness is ours, in Christ, presently and eternally; not because of us, but because of Christ's sacrifice, which once and for all has provided forgiveness for all sins.
To confess means to agree with God. We agree with God concerning our sin. Which means we agree with Him that it is inconsistent with who we now are as His Child, and we agree with, and thank Him, that He has forgiven us of that sin. By agreeing with God concerning our sin we are acknowledging the error in our thinking. We then repent by allowing God to re-new our minds with the Truth.
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RE: CONFESSION OF SIN? - 9/3/2008 3:51:36 PM
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To confess means to agree with God. We agree with God concerning our sin. Which means we agree with Him that it is inconsistent with who we now are as His Child, and we agree with, and thank Him, that He has forgiven us of that sin. By agreeing with God concerning our sin we are acknowledging the error in our thinking. We then repent by allowing God to re-new our minds with the Truth.
Once again I'm agreeing with URF. Is that like agreeing with God? ? ?
Confession is necessary to remind us of Whose we are and what He has done for us. It is a part of the humbling ourselves that is such a necessary part of faith and a HUGE part of our testimony to others. Confession of sin testifies of God's goodness to us and the salvation we have in Jesus.
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RE: CONFESSION OF SIN? - 9/3/2008 4:19:46 PM
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I would say that, in a salvation sense, confession of sin is not required for a person who has already had their sins forgiven. God forgives our sins past, present and future, period. However, just because it's not necessary for us to eventually reach heaven doesn't mean it's not necessary for us - assuming, of course, we want to live a productive Christian life. So, I would say that it's an important part of justification the first time, an instrumental part of sanctification after that, but ultimately doesn't decide our glorification.
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RE: CONFESSION OF SIN? - 9/3/2008 4:37:48 PM
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I would say that, in a salvation sense, confession of sin is not required for a person who has already had their sins forgiven. God forgives our sins past, present and future, period. However, just because it's not necessary for us to eventually reach heaven doesn't mean it's not necessary for us - assuming, of course, we want to live a productive Christian life. So, I would say that it's an important part of justification the first time, an instrumental part of sanctification after that, but ultimately doesn't decide our glorification.
Please I hope I am reading you write. Are you writing that we don't have to confess our sins that we commit daily?
First of all we need to search our lives everyday and see where we come short in our daily walk. So that we may know on how to correct our demeaner with others in this world. I know of people who can quote the part of a verse in Pslams where the write say as far as east is from the west so are my trangressions towards you Lord are. Then they have the gull to act like they are the almighty in the way the live their life. Saying rude things and treating other individuals with act of the evil one.
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RE: CONFESSION OF SIN? - 9/3/2008 5:23:45 PM
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Believe it or not, life is more than salvation from the penalty of sin. There is also life after salvation. We still have the capability to do wrong by choice or accident. Either way it behooves us to minimize this behavior and mitigate any damages caused. Repentance is helpful in doing this. The first step of repentance is recognition or confession. One can not change things if one does not recognize they exist. Once we have confessed our faults, we can then reform our lives and make restitution to mitigate the damages we caused.
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RE: CONFESSION OF SIN? - 9/3/2008 6:03:39 PM
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ORIGINAL: rmoore1925
If all of our sins have been forgiven, why is confession of sin necessary?
Good question rmoore. Christians do not get forgiven, Christians are forgiven. It is through Christ's shed blood on the cross that we have forgiveness...
Ephesians 1:7
"In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, in accordance with the riches of God's grace"
Colossians 1:14
"in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins."
Hebrews 9:22
"In fact, the law requires that nearly everything be cleansed with blood, and without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness."
We, as forgiven saints, do not confess to get forgiveness, we are forgiven. Forgiveness is ours, in Christ, presently and eternally; not because of us, but because of Christ's sacrifice, which once and for all has provided forgiveness for all sins.
To confess means to agree with God. We agree with God concerning our sin. Which means we agree with Him that it is inconsistent with who we now are as His Child, and we agree with, and thank Him, that He has forgiven us of that sin. By agreeing with God concerning our sin we are acknowledging the error in our thinking. We then repent by allowing God to re-new our minds with the Truth.
Peace
Agreed. 
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RE: CONFESSION OF SIN? - 9/3/2008 8:57:09 PM
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Hi rmoore...
Let’s consider your earthly father…lets say you live at home and you have established a relationship with your father.
Now you commit some kind of transgression that goes against your father’s principles and you know that you father will be extremely hurt because of your action. And of course you father knows all about it because you live under his roof. You have two options; you can confess to your father and say you are sorry or you can ignore your transgression and just let your father be hurt and suffer as a result.
If you choose to ignore your transgression and let your father’s feelings be hurt…what happens to your relationship? Don’t you build a wall between you and you’re father and if you let that wall grow tall enough you might not ever be able to tear it down.
Your father is not going to kick you out on the street but any rewards that you are in line to receive might go elsewhere…maybe to you brother or sister. You still get to live at home but no TV..
Hope you see my point because I think it’s the same situation that occurs between you and God. You really need to keep the any misunderstanding between you and God sorted out and maintain the good relationship.
Bob
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RE: CONFESSION OF SIN? - 9/3/2008 9:44:40 PM
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MrFribbles
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Please I hope I am reading you write. Are you writing that we don't have to confess our sins that we commit daily?
It depends on what you mean by have to. If you're asking if I mean, "We don't have to confess our sins daily to be saved," then yes, that is what I mean. But I do not mean that there is no need for confession in the life of the Christian! If we want to maintain a healthy relationship with God, then confession (and more importantly, repentance!) is essential.
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RE: CONFESSION OF SIN? - 9/3/2008 10:17:10 PM
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1 John 1:5 - 10 (ESV)
5This is the message we have heard from him and proclaim to you,
that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.
If we say we have fellowship with him
while we walk in darkness
we lie and do not practice the truth.
7But if we walk in the light,
as he is in the light,
we have fellowship with one another,
and the blood of Jesus his Son cleanses us from all sin.
8If we say we have no sin,
we deceive ourselves,
and the truth is not in us.
If we confess our sins,
he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins
and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
10If we say we have not sinned,
we make him a liar,
and his word is not in us.
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RE: CONFESSION OF SIN? - 9/3/2008 11:45:37 PM
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When we confess we also allow God to shine His light in that part of our lives. When we hide sin or fail to confess it it will fester and become more ingrained in us. It does humble us, but even more. It gives us room to build anew on a firm foundation.
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RE: CONFESSION OF SIN? - 9/5/2008 8:50:59 AM
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If you're asking if I mean, "We don't have to confess our sins daily to be saved," then yes, that is what I mean. People who are sinning daily are NOT saved - 1 John 3:4-10. Confession is worthless without godly sorrow and true repentance!
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RE: CONFESSION OF SIN? - 9/15/2008 8:37:32 PM
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Don675
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drmark,
Do you one bad thought in a day,each and every day?Isnt that one
sin per day?
DONK
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RE: CONFESSION OF SIN? - 9/15/2008 9:03:04 PM
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drmark
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Do you one bad thought in a day,each and every day?Isnt that one
sin per day? Please define a "bad thought", Don. Thinking about evil is NOT sin. Dwelling on evil thoughts is sin. By the grace of God and the power of the Holy Spirit, I do not have to think evil thoughts every day. Nor does any other Christian!
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RE: CONFESSION OF SIN? - 9/16/2008 8:47:24 AM
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rcjames
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Do you one bad thought in a day,each and every day?Isnt that one
sin per day? Please define a "bad thought", Don. Thinking about evil is NOT sin. Dwelling on evil thoughts is sin. By the grace of God and the power of the Holy Spirit, I do not have to think evil thoughts every day. Nor does any other Christian!
Wwll said drmark.
Temptation is not a sin, and 1 Cor. 10:13 promises the Belirver a "Way to excape" from that temptation and not to sin. So therefore sin is a choice and we can choole sot to sin.
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